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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 19, 2014 21:21:33 GMT -5
But NJPW pays extremely well and is the number two promotion in the world. Unless Bullet Club is done after WrestleKingdom this year (which i doubt because they're over as  and NJPW doesnt just throw away stables) there's no way he's leaving. He can still work for Jeff with the NJPW/GFW partnership. Back to the topic of ROH. The entire title scene has been a mess since Steen dropped the title. The loss of Richards and Edwards just furthered the issues ROH had once they lost Dragon, Aries, Claudio, Generico, etc. And now Steens departure is going to make it even worse. Elgin Cole Briscoes ReDRagon Not much star power at all past those 6. They should really look into bringing in/back alot of the guys Gabe and PWG book. I would start with Gulak and Bussick. I'd bring in Chris Dickinson too. I would love some Ricochet, Gargano, and Swann in ROH. This is why i say contracts are hurting ROH. Guys like Ricochet are not going to pass up Dragon Gate and other companies that pay them and get them exposure. Yeah, but AJ has at least some loyalty to Jeff Jarrett and GFW's apparently being bankrolled by some deep pockets. The indie contracts are stupid. Mike Quackenbush said it best: if you don't pay the wrestlers a living wage (a lot of guys don't or else they wouldn't have to take as many non-contract bookings), why offer them a contract restricting where they can work and make a living? I get it with ROH, I guess since they're a TV/PPV company now but that doesn't make it any less awful for the fans and the wrestlers. Think of how thin that roster of stars is gonna get if New Japan decides they want reDRagon. I'd also like Busick and Gulak in ROH. Also, Bullet Club aren't "over as " with anyone but the internet/foreign fans who like them because it's a group of guys they're familiar with in New Japan winning matches and it's the cool thing to like right now. The Japanese fans aren't as into them as a lot of people would like to believe. Hell, AJ's title win got a decidedly "meh" reaction because a lot of fans had no real idea who he was despite AJ being presented as a star from TNA in New Japan years ago. Bullet Club are probably not going to be broken up or anything, but Wrestle Kingdom 9 is likely the beginning of the stable to get shoved down the card since it's looking like they're going to have every title going into that show. It wouldn't make any sense for them to enter the Dome with the titles and then not lose all of them plus, the all gaijin stable dominating the company can only run for so long before it just doesn't work anymore. All the Bullet Club shirts at the recent New Japan shirts say otherwise. I still think the dead reaction to AJ winning the strap was a combination of shock and disapointment with the run ins. |
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Post by Jack on Jul 20, 2014 1:42:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 1:53:02 GMT -5
Yeah, but AJ has at least some loyalty to Jeff Jarrett and GFW's apparently being bankrolled by some deep pockets. The indie contracts are stupid. Mike Quackenbush said it best: if you don't pay the wrestlers a living wage (a lot of guys don't or else they wouldn't have to take as many non-contract bookings), why offer them a contract restricting where they can work and make a living? I get it with ROH, I guess since they're a TV/PPV company now but that doesn't make it any less awful for the fans and the wrestlers. Think of how thin that roster of stars is gonna get if New Japan decides they want reDRagon. I'd also like Busick and Gulak in ROH. Also, Bullet Club aren't "over as " with anyone but the internet/foreign fans who like them because it's a group of guys they're familiar with in New Japan winning matches and it's the cool thing to like right now. The Japanese fans aren't as into them as a lot of people would like to believe. Hell, AJ's title win got a decidedly "meh" reaction because a lot of fans had no real idea who he was despite AJ being presented as a star from TNA in New Japan years ago. Bullet Club are probably not going to be broken up or anything, but Wrestle Kingdom 9 is likely the beginning of the stable to get shoved down the card since it's looking like they're going to have every title going into that show. It wouldn't make any sense for them to enter the Dome with the titles and then not lose all of them plus, the all gaijin stable dominating the company can only run for so long before it just doesn't work anymore. All the Bullet Club shirts at the recent New Japan shirts say otherwise. I still think the dead reaction to AJ winning the strap was a combination of shock and disapointment with the run ins. The dead reaction to AJ winning was that to most of the New Japan fans, he was a relative unknown who beat the top guy after a ton of run ins...in that order. Also, the number of shirts are irrelevant because even if they buy an American wrestler's shirt, the Japanese fans will almost always cheer for/back the Japanese talent. It doesn't work like it does here, where you wear your favorite wrestler's shirt to the shows. Someone in Japan could wear a Nakamura shirt but still cheer for whoever he's facing. Thank You Steen Weird to note but the first thing I noticed is how ACH is staring at Steen's ass. EDIT: You know what? "Thank You Steen"... ROH Tag Champions reDRagon def #WalkingWeapon & Ethan Gabriel Owens with Chasing the Dragon JOSH ALEXANDER IN ROH. |
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jul 20, 2014 11:19:19 GMT -5
#ThanksSteenThanks
Steen is a great guy and wrestler, I wish nothing but the best for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2014 11:35:34 GMT -5
How the hell could TNA let Bad influence and Sabin go.
Odd they were put together to face all this international talent just before being released.
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Post by kiphouse on Jul 20, 2014 19:58:10 GMT -5
Im wondering if at roh shows the guys sell photo ops and autographs
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jul 20, 2014 22:00:44 GMT -5
Im wondering if at roh shows the guys sell photo ops and autographs They have a meet and great before the show where you get a picture and autograph with the wrestlers. |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 21, 2014 6:14:24 GMT -5
Im wondering if at roh shows the guys sell photo ops and autographs Idk if its still like this but I used to just hang out in the parking lot and chat with the wrestlers, get pictures and autographs. the Briscoes always hung out for a while and never complained it was cool. That's how I met Danielson, Roddy, Tyler Black, KENTA, basically the entire 2009-2010 roster at one point or another. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 6:56:31 GMT -5
Im wondering if at roh shows the guys sell photo ops and autographs With a few wrestlers before each show, they do. Usually it's just the top 3 or 4 names on the show. |
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Post by A-Rob on Jul 21, 2014 18:26:54 GMT -5
Im wondering if at roh shows the guys sell photo ops and autographs they do, it's $10 for an autograph, $15 for a picture and autograph and they usually have a deal were you can get everyone's autograph/picture for one price |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 22, 2014 7:15:56 GMT -5
Im wondering if at roh shows the guys sell photo ops and autographs they do, it's $10 for an autograph, $15 for a picture and autograph and they usually have a deal were you can get everyone's autograph/picture for one price That's pretty rediculous. I would expect prices like that from TNA. Not ROH. They aren't that big yet. I miss the days of Indy talent just being cool guys that were willing to mingle with fans and sign autographs for free. Then again was 15 when I stopped going to indies once or twice a month so they may still be like that with kids. |
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jul 22, 2014 8:58:25 GMT -5
they do, it's $10 for an autograph, $15 for a picture and autograph and they usually have a deal were you can get everyone's autograph/picture for one price That's pretty rediculous. I would expect prices like that from TNA. Not ROH. They aren't that big yet. I miss the days of Indy talent just being cool guys that were willing to mingle with fans and sign autographs for free. Then again was 15 when I stopped going to indies once or twice a month so they may still be like that with kids. Most of the time with Indy guys they will sign a personal iteam for free, take a picture with you for free(Steen does that), sometimes they charge $5 for an auto(that's how they make money). I know the Young Bucks have a special $30 you get a t-shirt and 8x10. One more thing Rhino charges $10 you get an 8x10 and he will sign any personal thing(s) and if you buy his t-shirt you get a free 8x10. |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 22, 2014 9:31:28 GMT -5
That's pretty rediculous. I would expect prices like that from TNA. Not ROH. They aren't that big yet. I miss the days of Indy talent just being cool guys that were willing to mingle with fans and sign autographs for free. Then again was 15 when I stopped going to indies once or twice a month so they may still be like that with kids. Most of the time with Indy guys they will sign a personal iteam for free, take a picture with you for free(Steen does that), sometimes they charge $5 for an auto(that's how they make money). I know the Young Bucks have a special $30 you get a t-shirt and 8x10. One more thing Rhino charges $10 you get an 8x10 and he will sign any personal thing(s) and if you buy his t-shirt you get a free 8x10. That is good then. Those aren't bad deals at all especially the Young Bucks deal. I wonder if they do that deal with the Bullet Club shirts.... |
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jul 22, 2014 12:51:44 GMT -5
Most of the time with Indy guys they will sign a personal iteam for free, take a picture with you for free(Steen does that), sometimes they charge $5 for an auto(that's how they make money). I know the Young Bucks have a special $30 you get a t-shirt and 8x10. One more thing Rhino charges $10 you get an 8x10 and he will sign any personal thing(s) and if you buy his t-shirt you get a free 8x10. That is good then. Those aren't bad deals at all especially the Young Bucks deal. I wonder if they do that deal with the Bullet Club shirts.... Any shirt they have. I got my Bullet Club shirt from Pro wrestling tees |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 22, 2014 12:52:59 GMT -5
That is good then. Those aren't bad deals at all especially the Young Bucks deal. I wonder if they do that deal with the Bullet Club shirts.... Any shirt they have. I got my Bullet Club shirt from Pro wrestling tees I am definitely grabbing the Bullet Club shirt and auto next time the Bucks are at a show in the Philly area I want to see. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 12:53:15 GMT -5
That is good then. Those aren't bad deals at all especially the Young Bucks deal. I wonder if they do that deal with the Bullet Club shirts.... Any shirt they have. I got my Bullet Club shirt from Pro wrestling tees Best place to get it since the money goes to New Japan and you can get the full shirt with sleeve logo and logo on the back. |
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jul 22, 2014 13:33:51 GMT -5
Any shirt they have. I got my Bullet Club shirt from Pro wrestling tees Best place to get it since the money goes to New Japan and you can get the full shirt with sleeve logo and logo on the back. I got the back logo and side logo on my shirt from pro wrestling tees |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 13:38:11 GMT -5
Elgin is defending the ROH World Title against Styles Briscoe and Cole at Field of Honor
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