jeffro2000
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Post by jeffro2000 on Mar 24, 2013 20:55:01 GMT -5
I watched it some more now, and I definitely feel like Hamlin clipped Logano. I am sure he was pissed, by this point he knew he had lost, was already mad at Joey for last week, and felt like he was pushed up the track causing him to lose.
Don't have a problem with any of it really except a guy got hurt, but looks to me to be his own fault. I am sure others will see something different and that is fine.
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 24, 2013 20:55:36 GMT -5
Still don't have a problem with it. Kinda funny someone with Kyle Busch in his sig does though. Yes, because I agree with everything Kyle does right? I don't like what he did to Ron at Texas because I don't like when people turn someone head first into the wall. You can bump someone, rub them, door them coming to the stripe.. But the moment that you're careless because someone one bumped you at BRISTOL at 200mph.. I have a problem with that. God forbid people disagree without the other person trying to start crapbecause "U LYKE SOZ AMD SOZ" I felt like Logano push Denny up the track, it was the only way he was going to win at that point. After that, I though Denny got mad and tried to turn Logano and they both spun out. Tough to tell if Logano just came up on Hamlin or if Denny came down to clip him. Probably a combo of both. I don't have a problem with Joey driving Denny up the track at that point. He was trying to win. Exactly. He might of been trying to get the side draft a little and drive past him. Really don't know since only Logano spoke about it. Because Hamlin is in the hospital... |
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 24, 2013 20:58:38 GMT -5
I watched it some more now, and I definitely feel like Hamlin clipped Logano. I am sure he was pissed, by this point he knew he had lost, was already mad at Joey for last week, and felt like he was pushed up the track causing him to lose. Don't have a problem with any of it really except a guy got hurt, but looks to me to be his own fault. I am sure others will see something different and that is fine. Joey saying "He deserved it"/"I did what I had to do" paints a different picture for me which is that it was intentional, personally. |
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Post by jeffro2000 on Mar 24, 2013 21:18:32 GMT -5
Joey saying "He deserved it"/"I did what I had to do" paints a different picture for me which is that it was intentional, personally. Uncalled for and stupid thing for Joey to say with a guy in the hospital I agree. At that point, after Busch passed them, they were going to wreck regardless, so it was likely a combined effort. Hamlin definitely turns into Logano, but he was loose from Logano running him up the track and ramming his door. Hamlin may have had no control at that point. Either way, they were going to crash. I still standby that it was hard racing and Logano was trying to win. Unfortunately, this is what happens. Hope Denny is ok, read he has a broken vertebra, but unconfirmed. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 24, 2013 21:26:11 GMT -5
Joey saying "He deserved it"/"I did what I had to do" paints a different picture for me which is that it was intentional, personally. Uncalled for and stupid thing for Joey to say with a guy in the hospital I agree. At that point, after Busch passed them, they were going to wreck regardless, so it was likely a combined effort. Hamlin definitely turns into Logano, but he was loose from Logano running him up the track and ramming his door. Hamlin may have had no control at that point. Either way, they were going to crash. I still standby that it was hard racing and Logano was trying to win. Unfortunately, this is what happens. Hope Denny is ok, read he has a broken vertebra, but unconfirmed. You're free to your opinion and I am not saying you're wrong, I just disagree that the idea of "I was trying to win" comes into effect. There's quite a number of drivers that you could fill into the roll of Joey in this entire situation and the opinions would differ. |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Mar 24, 2013 21:43:55 GMT -5
Let's not forget that i am sure Joey didn't know the extent of Hamlin's injury at the time.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Mar 24, 2013 22:12:14 GMT -5
Joey saying "He deserved it"/"I did what I had to do" paints a different picture for me which is that it was intentional, personally. Uncalled for and stupid thing for Joey to say with a guy in the hospital I agree. At that point, after Busch passed them, they were going to wreck regardless, so it was likely a combined effort. Hamlin definitely turns into Logano, but he was loose from Logano running him up the track and ramming his door. Hamlin may have had no control at that point. Either way, they were going to crash. I still standby that it was hard racing and Logano was trying to win. Unfortunately, this is what happens. Hope Denny is ok, read he has a broken vertebra, but unconfirmed. Where did you hear that at? About a broken vertebrae? There was nothing on NASCAR or ESPN sites about it. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 24, 2013 22:13:26 GMT -5
Let's not forget that i am sure Joey didn't know the extent of Hamlin's injury at the time. Then he shouldn't of made a comment like that OR should take his Twitter loving self and apologize/set the record straight.  |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Mar 24, 2013 22:17:33 GMT -5
Uncalled for and stupid thing for Joey to say with a guy in the hospital I agree. At that point, after Busch passed them, they were going to wreck regardless, so it was likely a combined effort. Hamlin definitely turns into Logano, but he was loose from Logano running him up the track and ramming his door. Hamlin may have had no control at that point. Either way, they were going to crash. I still standby that it was hard racing and Logano was trying to win. Unfortunately, this is what happens. Hope Denny is ok, read he has a broken vertebra, but unconfirmed. Where did you hear that at? About a broken vertebrae? There was nothing on NASCAR or ESPN sites about it. i haven't seen anything either. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 24, 2013 23:38:19 GMT -5
Denny's complaining about lower back pain but nobody has said anything about broken vertebrae.
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Post by "The Visionary" Eldniw on Mar 25, 2013 0:47:57 GMT -5
Denny's complaining about lower back pain but nobody has said anything about broken vertebrae. That's the extent of what I've heard too. Thanks. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 25, 2013 3:32:21 GMT -5
KvE told me about this on Twitter so we had to find it again:   |
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Post by jeffro2000 on Mar 25, 2013 8:25:20 GMT -5
Denny's complaining about lower back pain but nobody has said anything about broken vertebrae. That's the extent of what I've heard too. Thanks. Probably complete BS, but I read it on another site. Someone commented that his GF said it on twitter. I said it was unconfirmed, but I should have further clarified the source and lack of credibility. If any of you follow twitter you may can find it. I don't know if he has a wife/gf or what. Hope he is okay, don't want to see anyone get injured. |
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 25, 2013 15:39:54 GMT -5
FONTANA, Calif. -- Denny Hamlin has been diagnosed with a compression fracture in his lower back following a crash on the last lap of Sunday's Auto Club 400.
The compression fracture -- which occurs when a vertebrae in the spine collapses -- can occur in healthy people who suffer a vertical shock to the area.
Hamlin remained hospitalized near Auto Club Speedway on Monday, as he met with doctors to determine the extent of his injury. He wrecked while racing for the lead with rival Joey Logano, a former teammate who initiated the contact. Hamlin was airlifted to a hospital.
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I hope "Sliced Bread" feels like a peice of crap. Denny raced him hard, raced him clean.. then Joey wanted to slam Denny in the corner while getting passed by Kyle for the lead on the highside. You can call it racing, but racing doesn't end with someone in the hospital and possibly out of action for weeks because another driver left their "give a shit" at home.
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 25, 2013 15:46:51 GMT -5
I like how everyone has forgotten that Hamlin started all of this by wrecking Logano last week. The only reason this is a "bad" story is because Hamlin got hurt. If he wasnt hurt Nascar and the fans would have just taken then "Let em go at it boys" attitude that they always have.
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 25, 2013 16:02:02 GMT -5
I like how everyone has forgotten that Hamlin started all of this by wrecking Logano last week. The only reason this is a "bad" story is because Hamlin got hurt. If he wasnt hurt Nascar and the fans would have just taken then "Let em go at it boys" attitude that they always have. He bumped Joey - at the famous "bump n' run track' - and Joey couldn't hang onto his car. How is that the same thing? There is a major difference between bumping someone at Bristol and doing something at 200mph.. It's a bad story because Joey has bitched about wanting respect for the past year and yet... has done nothing to earn respect. You can't keep asking for respect and then pissing on those who you command respect from. EDIT: It also actually goes back to Twitter when Denny aplogized for not getting to help Brad at Daytona. He called Joey out by saying Brad's "genuis" teammate kept screwing up the bottom line by going three wide, Joey snipped off about he remembers when Denny was his "genuis" teammate. Then at Bristol, Joey chopped Denny's nose off on two occasions and Denny gave him the typical "I am not happy you did that" bump that Bristol is famous for and Joey couldn't save it. He aplogized on the radio saying he didn't mean to wreck him, aplogized throughout the week for his comments post-race, and yet Joey kept adding fuel to the fire by confroting Hamlin while he was still buckled in, attacking him on Twitter, etc. Denny said this weekend that the feud was over in his eyes, but Joey made it clear that it wasn't over. And then this happened.. yeah... I don't see where Denny did anyhting deserving to be raced like that. He raced Joey clean for the final laps of the race, was giving Joey plenty of room, setting up for this big finish when Kyle Busch zoomed by and Joey turned up into him.. |
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 25, 2013 16:21:20 GMT -5
The "feud" is always over when you're on top. Accidental or not Hamlin wrecked Logano and Logano paid him back. If you dont want to take the chance in wrecking him, Bristol or not, dont bump him. 20-25 years ago something like this was a non factor. It was called racing.
As for twitter, the thing is stupid and doesnt have any place in Nascar or sports in general and anything said on there shouldnt have any outcome on a race or sporting event. Be a man and grow a pair, do your talking on the track/field/court and not behind a computer screen.
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 25, 2013 16:33:40 GMT -5
"I bumped you at Bristol." "I wrecked you at 200mph" Yeah, those are two different things. Glad to see it's all okay for wreck someone at 200mph over petty stuff. I'm sure that'll help Denny's girlfriend and daughter sleep tonight.  |
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 25, 2013 16:47:32 GMT -5
Like I said, its only a story cause Hamlin got hurt. If you wreck someone, Bristol or not...You're going to get wrecked back, PERIOD. Its common sense and Ive seen it happen in Nascar for 25 years now. Just because you're at Bristol, Martinsville or Richmond doesnt give you any more of a right to wreck someone then if you're at Las Vegas, Charlotte or any other cookie cutter track. Its common sense. |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Mar 25, 2013 16:52:31 GMT -5
"I bumped you at Bristol." "I wrecked you at 200mph" Yeah, those are two different things. Glad to see it's all okay for wreck someone at 200mph over petty stuff. I'm sure that'll help Denny's girlfriend and daughter sleep tonight. Its the risk you take when you sign up for racing isn't it? You think Joey really wanted to hurt him? No not at all. Just like when Carl sent Keslowski into the fence a few years ago. You think he wanted to do that much damage?No it jus thappens that way sometimes. Like Nivro said, 25 years ago that woulda been nothing but what he had coming back to him. If a guy wrecks you the week before then is about to pass you for the win, your telling me your gunna let him go? |
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