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Post by wyleecyotee on Mar 26, 2013 14:20:18 GMT -5
A lot of talk about this years WrestleMania and the craptastic buildup it has so lets see if anyone here feels a past WrestleMania had similar problems.
Whats your worst Mania build excluding this years?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 14:23:28 GMT -5
I never cared for the build up to Wrestlemania 15.
What should have been an awesome ppv event, seemed lack luster at best.
From having Roaddogg and Billy Gunn switch spots in their respective matches (Billy should have won the IC Belt at Mania, and Roaddogg the Hardcore Belt) to having the make shift team of D'Lo Brown and Test vs. Jarrett and Owen for the Tag Titles, it just came off more of a normal ppv feel than a Wrestlemania.
But they had a good idea at first with story lines going into Mania that year, just Russo switched it all around.
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Post by Barney Stinson on Mar 26, 2013 14:57:57 GMT -5
I think WM18 had a weak build up.
Hogan/Rock with a 4 week build and Hogan crashing a semi into Rock's ambulance and Rock being ok.
Hall breaking a brick over Austin's knee and then Austin keepin Hall hostage in a beer cooler.
Booker T & Edge's match over a japanese shampoo commercial
Jericho just being a proxy for the real feud Triple H v. Stephanie and him cleaning up Stephs dog poop.
This year's mania build hasn't been the best, but it certainly hasn't been the worst either.
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Post by sideeffect on Mar 26, 2013 15:13:22 GMT -5
I thought the buildup to WM13 was pretty lackluster. Austin/Bret and the Street fight were built up well, but everything else seemed to be thrown together.
The PPV itself just felt like a regular show, it could have passed for an In Your House card.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 15:25:30 GMT -5
I have been watching since 1997 the worst was easily Wrestlemania 2000 in my opinion.
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Post by Kingdomofmadness89 on Mar 26, 2013 15:43:49 GMT -5
I have been watching since 1997 the worst was easily Wrestlemania 2000 in my opinion. I'd have to agree. Four way with a McMahon in each corner for the main event?? Weak. TLC was the only good thing about that whole show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 16:18:27 GMT -5
29, without question.
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Post by Nivro™ on Mar 26, 2013 20:05:56 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 16/2000..... The main event should be the most hyped thing about a Mania. WM16 was a complete cluster . I wasnt sure who was with who and why they were with them or who was fighting what. Should have just kept it to a simple Triple H vs The Rock title match
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Mar 26, 2013 20:40:19 GMT -5
WM 2000 was a Mcmahon family pissing contest. I'm sure in the creative meetings HHH was pretty obnoxious.
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Post by HHH316 on Mar 26, 2013 21:05:56 GMT -5
Yeah, WM2000 was a crap build. If I remember right, they'd set the WM main event, then change their mind & have it on Raw that night. I think they did that twice. I know for sure they did it once. I was at the Raw show when we saw Rock/Show/HHH & then Foley returned
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2013 21:51:45 GMT -5
its between WM18 and WM2000 for me.
my opinion is well known on the HHH vs Jericho program.the disrespect the Undisputed title and 1st Undisputed Champ were shown in their 1st RTWM was disgusting.
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Post by LeighD on Mar 28, 2013 13:29:21 GMT -5
I thought the buildup to WM13 was pretty lackluster. Austin/Bret and the Street fight were built up well, but everything else seemed to be thrown together. The PPV itself just felt like a regular show, it could have passed for an In Your House card. I think I will agree. I think part of the problem with 13's built-up was the card kept changing (at least backstage-wise) so it was hard to hype up feuds that maybe weren't going to happen. I mean They started building Hart vs. HBK II as far back as October 1996 with more emphasis starting in December's IYH. With the exception of Hart vs. Austin, most of the card was I believe thrown together with VERY minimal build-up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 13:50:40 GMT -5
I thought the buildup to WM13 was pretty lackluster. Austin/Bret and the Street fight were built up well, but everything else seemed to be thrown together. The PPV itself just felt like a regular show, it could have passed for an In Your House card. I think I will agree. I think part of the problem with 13's built-up was the card kept changing (at least backstage-wise) so it was hard to hype up feuds that maybe weren't going to happen. I mean They started building Hart vs. HBK II as far back as October 1996 with more emphasis starting in December's IYH. With the exception of Hart vs. Austin, most of the card was I believe thrown together with VERY minimal build-up. It was. They had even teased Undertaker vs. Stone Cold since Royal Rumble and Final Four which didn't happen either. Plus Mankind & Vader vs. Bulldog and Owen was a total disaster as all four were heels...unless you wanna argue Bulldog being a tweener at that point.
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Post by glenanncam on Mar 28, 2013 14:34:02 GMT -5
Yeah, WM13's buildup was pretty terrible but there were extenuating circumstances.
I agree with WMXV, WM2000 and WMX8.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Mar 28, 2013 20:28:56 GMT -5
13 and X8. I didn't mind 2000's build, wrestling was so hot at the time that they couldn't really go wrong.
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Post by sideeffect on Mar 28, 2013 20:51:30 GMT -5
I think I will agree. I think part of the problem with 13's built-up was the card kept changing (at least backstage-wise) so it was hard to hype up feuds that maybe weren't going to happen. I mean They started building Hart vs. HBK II as far back as October 1996 with more emphasis starting in December's IYH. With the exception of Hart vs. Austin, most of the card was I believe thrown together with VERY minimal build-up. It was. They had even teased Undertaker vs. Stone Cold since Royal Rumble and Final Four which didn't happen either. Plus Mankind & Vader vs. Bulldog and Owen was a total disaster as all four were heels...unless you wanna argue Bulldog being a tweener at that point. I found this link with rumors of the WM13 card was suppose to be this Definitely would have been way better than what we got.
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Post by ztj_wwf on Mar 28, 2013 20:57:23 GMT -5
Not sure if it's true, but that would've been an awesome card. But we wouldn't have gotten the Bret/SCSA classic...
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 28, 2013 21:11:57 GMT -5
A few of em...
WM7 - Hogan/Slaughter was a lackluster build once the "war" ended weeks before the event. Savage/Warrior had a nice build, but the rest of the card lacked.
WM11 - Diesel/HBK had a good build, but the Bret/Backlund match was something not too many people were getting into, and the rest of the card was lackluster as well, especially the LT/Bam Bam match (though a decent match considering who was in it).
WM13 - Besides for Austin/Bret, the card just seemed to be winged. Everything pointed to a Bulldog vs Owen for the Euro Title classic, yet they were thrown together as a tag team. Taker vs Sid, like Bret stated in his book, was quickly thrown together because Vince wanted the event to be unpredictable.
WM16 - W/ injuries to Austin and Taker and Vince again wanting an unpredictable card, the potential Rock/HHH match was changed to a Fatal Four Way w/ Show and Foley. Not a terrible match but the fact it was based around the McMahons feuding hurt it. Add the fact that the heel went over, and it was just a lackluster main event. The triple threat ladder match had so good build, but the rest of the card was quickly thrown together.
WM22 - Besides for the two world title matches, the rest of the card lacked much buildup and did not get me pumped much for it.
WM27 - The event was built around Cena/Rocky, and w/ the WWE Champ Miz clearly not on the same level and seen as a mid-card champ, the event did not live up to the Wrestlemania billing. Edge/Del Rio also wasn't a match anyone was too pumped for, especially considering they had plenty of time to add Christian and/or Dolph Ziggler to the match as well.
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Post by sideeffect on Mar 29, 2013 1:04:41 GMT -5
WM22 - Besides for the two world title matches, the rest of the card lacked much buildup and did not get me pumped much for it. I thought WM22 was well built and a great show. But also seemed like the card was shuffled around due to Batista's injury and Eddie's passing. I recall reading the original plans were: Orton vs. Batista - World Title Angle vs. Taker HBK vs. Guerrero Cena vs. HHH - WWE Title (locked regardless) That would have left out Mysterio but a match with Benoit for the US title would have been awesome. With what they had it seemed good. - Trish vs Mickie was probably the best built divas match that lasted 5-6 months - Benoit vs JBL started when Benoit "broke" JBL's hand using the steel stairs on SD - Edge vs Foley with Foley costing Edge the title - Henry vs. Taker - Henry was the unstoppable monster when he came back - HBK vs. Vince was self-explanatory - Carlito and Masters were teaming up for a quite a bit so that led to a tag title match
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 29, 2013 14:22:26 GMT -5
WM22 - Besides for the two world title matches, the rest of the card lacked much buildup and did not get me pumped much for it. I thought WM22 was well built and a great show. But also seemed like the card was shuffled around due to Batista's injury and Eddie's passing. I recall reading the original plans were: Orton vs. Batista - World Title Angle vs. Taker HBK vs. Guerrero Cena vs. HHH - WWE Title (locked regardless) That would have left out Mysterio but a match with Benoit for the US title would have been awesome. With what they had it seemed good. - Trish vs Mickie was probably the best built divas match that lasted 5-6 months - Benoit vs JBL started when Benoit "broke" JBL's hand using the steel stairs on SD - Edge vs Foley with Foley costing Edge the title - Henry vs. Taker - Henry was the unstoppable monster when he came back - HBK vs. Vince was self-explanatory - Carlito and Masters were teaming up for a quite a bit so that led to a tag title match I find the Edge/Foley buildup and match to be overrated. I wasn't that excited going into the match and the match wasn't anything special IMO. The Orton/Foley feud from 03/04 was a much better build and the match was great. The Trish/Mickie build was good for a women's feud. Can't argue w/ that. Didn't care for the HBK/Vince build or match. It just seemed like a way to get Vince on the card and HBK was the guy he was put with because he had no other feud going on at the time. At the time Mark Henry was still the lower tier big man that he had always been up to that point. Like HBK, Taker didn't really have any feud going into the event and Henry was just thrown with him. I would have preferred a rematch w/ Angle considering their amazing NWO match and the terrible Rey Mysterio reign that came after the event. Save the big Mysterio title reign for another event.
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