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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 20:33:49 GMT -5
I have always felt that was a copout for Borden.TNAs content was as bad & worse than WWEs several times during the period where he was stating this..... Well, I believe he had problems with what they did during the attitude era, and it was well after that when his contract came up. But I don't think TNA or wCw did anything as edgy as wwe did though. very true he did have problems with the AE content but he also said he wasn't comfortable with their current product and that was in 2006.there wasn't a whole lotta difference between what was happening either side in 2006 IIRC. I always thought Stings Church buddy HBK would have talked him into coming over for a spell.... |
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Post by LeighD on Jun 4, 2013 20:40:31 GMT -5
Austin refused to job to Lesnar wasn't a storyline man. Austin had no issue jobbing to Lesnar....he didn't want to do it on Raw with no build at all.it hadn't even been announced the week before. Joker for the win! Owen refused to an affair/love triangle angle involving Jeff Jarrett & Debra. He was given the Blue Blazer gimmick as an alternative. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 20:50:06 GMT -5
I hadnt heard too much about Owen/Debra/Jeff....but looking back....yeah that's where they were bound for.no doubt
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Post by zaxary on Jun 4, 2013 20:55:06 GMT -5
I hadnt heard too much about Owen/Debra/Jeff....but looking back....yeah that's where they were bound for.no doubt Shame too considering Owen was such a good talent  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2013 21:03:26 GMT -5
I hadnt heard too much about Owen/Debra/Jeff....but looking back....yeah that's where they were bound for.no doubt Shame too considering Owen was such a good talent true but it could have been a great feud that elevated one of them further up the ladder......also more importantly it would have surely saved Harts life. |
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Post by joesgonnakillu on Jun 5, 2013 2:46:12 GMT -5
Well, I believe he had problems with what they did during the attitude era, and it was well after that when his contract came up. But I don't think TNA or wCw did anything as edgy as wwe did though. very true he did have problems with the AE content but he also said he wasn't comfortable with their current product and that was in 2006.there wasn't a whole lotta difference between what was happening either side in 2006 IIRC. I always thought Stings Church buddy HBK would have talked him into coming over for a spell.... Agreed. I'm surprised he didn't jump over the last time his contract was up. And I agree, i'm surprised HBK didn't try and talk to him. Hell even get guys like Booker or Foley to talk to him. You reminded me of a the christian wrestling show I found on youtube of Sting getting beat down by random guys and HBK running out to help. Pretty surreal to watch, and to have HBK run down to his theme. And they did an interview for something. Sting interviewing HBK is something I thought I would never see |
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Post by ztj_wwf on Jun 5, 2013 2:59:23 GMT -5
Some believe HBK exaggerated his knee injury in 97 to not have job to Bret at Wrestlemania 13.
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Post by AuronLeeCudi on Jun 5, 2013 3:56:47 GMT -5
Could someone please elaborate on the Goldust/Razor and Goldust/Michaels stories? I haven't heard those ones before and I'm intrigued.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 4:46:22 GMT -5
Could someone please elaborate on the Goldust/Razor and Goldust/Michaels stories? I haven't heard those ones before and I'm intrigued. no problem man!! basically when the Goldust character was introduced they wanted him to have an immediate impact so they placed him in a storyline with Razor Ramon over the IC strap straight away. because of the overtly sexual overtones of the character Hall was not happy.he was unhappy with the way Runnels was told to portray the character(feeling asses in the rings etc) and objected STRONGLY to having to work with him let alone be beaten cleanly because the Ramon character was so overwhelmend by his stalker.now things obviously changed a bit to what we saw but yeah......Hall was horrified. he was meant to "lose his machismo" and go down a bad road......only to regain the IC strap & his Mojo at WM12.in response to this Hall started to take Bischoffs calls and then was suspended for failing a drugs test and missed WM12..however many doubt he would have been suspended if he wanted to play along with the Goldust storyline.I should also note that Halls payoff for SSeries 95 left him very cold.....when he heard Sting $$ was on the table for him in WCW he was a goner.....ditto for Nash.despite what he says now. Nash & HBK chimed in in late 95 and said they wouldn't want to work with this character either.cue Summer 1996 and Vince was looking to separate Vader & HBK for a PPV and Goldust was proposed as an challenger because as posted above it quite literally writes itself.HBK refused the idea out of hand and Mankind ended up getting the spot.theres no doubt in my mind when they registered the name for IYH:Mind Games Goldust was the opponent they had in mind. |
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Jun 5, 2013 8:03:42 GMT -5
Let's not forget Sting hated the way the WCW guys were treated/portrayed during the Invasion angle.
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Post by Liu Kangaroo on Jun 5, 2013 16:45:36 GMT -5
A whole bunch of roster members refused to work with Public Enemy when they were signed by the WWE. It led to them leaving the company shortly after their debut. I remember them playing that up on television. Why did much of the roster dislike Public Enemy? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 17:00:13 GMT -5
A whole bunch of roster members refused to work with Public Enemy when they were signed by the WWE. It led to them leaving the company shortly after their debut. I remember them playing that up on television. Why did much of the roster dislike Public Enemy? They were ECW guys and probably seen as unfit for WWF |
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Post by Kanenite on Jun 5, 2013 18:58:53 GMT -5
Kristal was supposed to be the wedding planner for Edge and Vickies wedding which saw Kristal ending up being the one Edge was having an affair with. She refused so Alicia Fox was called up to the main roster to partake in the angle instead. Shortly after refusing Kristal was released from the WWE. They must of had that one planned for a long time, because I think Kristal was released before Vickie and Edge even got together on screen, and almost a year before that actual part in the storyline happened. But I do also remember reading that she was somehow supposed to get with Edge, and be like Lita was in a way. Maybe it was going to happen way earlier than it did, but since Kristal refused, they kept that angle for later, and used Alicia Fox instead. |
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Post by skribbel24 on Jun 5, 2013 20:30:11 GMT -5
Sable refused a lesbian storyline and left the company (I believe that's what happened). When she returned in the Entertainment era, Vince gave her the lesbian angle again (somehow, with Torrie) and she couldn't refuse anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 1:13:06 GMT -5
While HBK and HHH were on the booking team in 1997 they wanted Bret Hart to beat Rocky Maivia for the IC title and start a program.
Bret refused and the match finish was changed to a DQ.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 5:36:11 GMT -5
I remember them playing that up on television. Why did much of the roster dislike Public Enemy? They were ECW guys and probably seen as unfit for WWF that's not it at all. PE were harassed by Bradshaw and Holly(WWF Loyalists.....)because they chose WCW over WWF in late 95.the fact that Bischoff was offering 2-3 times more than Vince seemed to be irrelevant to these bungholes.they would have done the same thing.....the fact they called themselves WWF loyalists is a joke.I highly doubt their phones were hopping with missed calls from Eric in WCW. but basically the PE complained about their in ring treatment by the APA in 99 and that was that.same thing happened to The Dudleys but they passed the famed Acolyte test. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 16:44:31 GMT -5
They were ECW guys and probably seen as unfit for WWF that's not it at all. PE were harassed by Bradshaw and Holly(WWF Loyalists.....)because they chose WCW over WWF in late 95.the fact that Bischoff was offering 2-3 times more than Vince seemed to be irrelevant to these bungholes.they would have done the same thing.....the fact they called themselves WWF loyalists is a joke.I highly doubt their phones were hopping with missed calls from Eric in WCW. but basically the PE complained about their in ring treatment by the APA in 99 and that was that.same thing happened to The Dudleys but they passed the famed Acolyte test. I thought PE went to WWF first, guess I was wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 17:25:39 GMT -5
they were all over man!!
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Post by K5 on Jun 6, 2013 22:44:16 GMT -5
Owen Hart refused to do an angle where he was lusting after/having an affair Debra while he was tagging with Jeff Jarrett because he didn't want his family seeing that and thought it was lewd, where it was supposed to lead to a Jarrett v. Owen feud. Shortly after, the Blue Blazer gimmick came back. It was rumored that he became the Blazer again as punishment for turning down the storyline. It's a shame because we all know how that turned out. But I'm glad Owen stuck to his morals. i'm happy to see someone covered that, was going to be my go to. and goddamit, goldust/hbk would've been a great feud. |
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Post by Sleazyness on Jun 7, 2013 15:18:01 GMT -5
I think Punk did at one point. Not sure.
I know he told WWE that he was going to speak his mind and stuff in his documentary.
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