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Post by slappy on Jun 26, 2013 19:23:32 GMT -5
A shame. Abortion should be illegal in all countries. I agree That wouldn't stop them from happening.
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Post by JC Motors on Jun 26, 2013 19:46:26 GMT -5
That wouldn't stop them from happening. True since there are always ways around the law
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Post by Quanthor on Jun 26, 2013 21:26:53 GMT -5
I always laugh about the "women's rights" thing. By the way, I am not inherently "pro-life." But to say that someone has the RIGHT to kill another person is pretty crazy. The government forcing pregnant women to give birth is also pretty crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 21:53:44 GMT -5
Am I the only one that read the "The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy"?
It wasn't to ban abortions as a whole, or make them illegal, just after a certain amount of time, like a lot of places do already.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Jun 26, 2013 22:14:27 GMT -5
So in Texas for republicans it's fine to have 500 executions since 1982 (248 of which were last decade) but abortions NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Pretty much it seems their logic is, once it leaves the womb it's fair game to kill.
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Post by JTG on Jun 26, 2013 22:31:37 GMT -5
I mean if the parent doesnt want the kid then they arent going to have such a great life to begin with. Its crazy how many bad parents and unwanted children there are. I also dont believe it should be completely up to the female but the male as well. You pretty much summed up my sentiments on the subject right here. There's no reason that a child should be brought into this world if they aren't wanted and won't be cared for/loved as they should be. With that said, abortion is a big step to take. Both parents should certainly have a say in this process in order to determine what's best. I recently had a conversation with one of my family members about the male's role in abortions. I never gave it much though, but now I feel it really is something that is overlooked when it comes to the subject.
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jun 26, 2013 22:37:13 GMT -5
I dont give excuses to dead beat dads but if the father wants nothing to do with the kid then the mother should seriously consider her options and not lock the father in. Maybe that person is hurt financially and a kid would just destroy anything they have going on with their life. I don't think that is very fair.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 22:47:14 GMT -5
I mean if the parent doesnt want the kid then they arent going to have such a great life to begin with. Its crazy how many bad parents and unwanted children there are. I also dont believe it should be completely up to the female but the male as well. Have you never heard of a thing called adoption? Why give the child away for adoption to be found by someone that does want them? Let's just kill it and not give it the chance. I've known many people that were adopted or casted away by their parents and they went to live great lives. Lives they never would have had the chance to have if they used your logic.
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jun 26, 2013 22:53:44 GMT -5
Yeah cause all the kids that dont get adopted, stuck in foster homes have GREAT lives and the problem is no one gives up their kids! Way too many people have kids and its just getting ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 23:03:11 GMT -5
Yeah cause all the kids that dont get adopted, stuck in foster homes have GREAT lives and the problem is no one gives up their kids! Way too many people have kids and its just getting ridiculous. Then they become adults and go out on their own and live perfectly fine lives... It's no wonder no one gives up their kids. People like you have an "abortion or nothing" attitude about the whole thing and think they're either stuck with the kid or have to get an abortion.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 27, 2013 0:00:02 GMT -5
I always laugh about the "women's rights" thing. By the way, I am not inherently "pro-life." But to say that someone has the RIGHT to kill another person is pretty crazy. The government forcing pregnant women to give birth is also pretty crazy. Agreed, but I think the problem I have is the word "RIGHT" in that sentence.
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jun 27, 2013 0:01:51 GMT -5
Yeah cause all the kids that dont get adopted, stuck in foster homes have GREAT lives and the problem is no one gives up their kids! Way too many people have kids and its just getting ridiculous. Then they become adults and go out on their own and live perfectly fine lives... It's no wonder no one gives up their kids. People like you have an "abortion or nothing" attitude about the whole thing and think they're either stuck with the kid or have to get an abortion. If I ever do have a kid, I'm adopting. And the plot thickens. I'm not a heartless person, just a realistic one.
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Post by slappy on Jun 27, 2013 1:37:37 GMT -5
So in Texas for republicans it's fine to have 500 executions since 1982 (248 of which were last decade) but abortions NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Pretty much it seems their logic is, once it leaves the womb it's fair game to kill. God forbid that fetus turn out to be gay.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 27, 2013 2:36:12 GMT -5
So in Texas for republicans it's fine to have 500 executions since 1982 (248 of which were last decade) but abortions NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Pretty much it seems their logic is, once it leaves the womb it's fair game to kill. God forbid that fetus turn out to be gay. Then we re-educate it like we did Michele Bachmann's husband who now is the world's most flamboyantly straight man.
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Post by slappy on Jun 27, 2013 2:44:08 GMT -5
God forbid that fetus turn out to be gay. Then we re-educate it like we did Michele Bachmann's husband who now is the world's most flamboyantly straight man. A challenger appears!
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Post by King Silva on Jun 27, 2013 2:57:20 GMT -5
I think it is good that they did this. LOL at the Texas GOP trying to cheat and say they got the vote in the time limit. Nice try.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 3:23:10 GMT -5
Then they become adults and go out on their own and live perfectly fine lives... It's no wonder no one gives up their kids. People like you have an "abortion or nothing" attitude about the whole thing and think they're either stuck with the kid or have to get an abortion. If I ever do have a kid, I'm adopting. And the plot thickens. I'm not a heartless person, just a realistic one. I'm not saying you're heartless, it's the ridiculous how so many people have the impression that it's either abortion or being stuck with a kid, when adoption is an option. Saying kids put up for adoption will lead to bad lives for them is a ridiculously short sided statement. There's millions of people who were adopted or lived their childhood in foster homes or orphanages or whatever and went on to live happy and great lives, lives they wouldn't have had a chance to lead if they were aborted.
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jun 27, 2013 10:13:38 GMT -5
If I ever do have a kid, I'm adopting. And the plot thickens. I'm not a heartless person, just a realistic one. I'm not saying you're heartless, it's the ridiculous how so many people have the impression that it's either abortion or being stuck with a kid, when adoption is an option. Saying kids put up for adoption will lead to bad lives for them is a ridiculously short sided statement. There's millions of people who were adopted or lived their childhood in foster homes or orphanages or whatever and went on to live happy and great lives, lives they wouldn't have had a chance to lead if they were aborted. You have to take into consideration Rape, health concerns to the mother and simply not wanting to go through pregnancy. That can be for many reasons, some not as selfish as "I dont want to" But school, work, etc. It is always easy for a guy to say "just have the kid". While I think the father should get a vote in the decision I think they legality of abortion should be left for women to decide.
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Post by Kliquid on Jun 27, 2013 10:27:31 GMT -5
I'm not saying you're heartless, it's the ridiculous how so many people have the impression that it's either abortion or being stuck with a kid, when adoption is an option. Saying kids put up for adoption will lead to bad lives for them is a ridiculously short sided statement. There's millions of people who were adopted or lived their childhood in foster homes or orphanages or whatever and went on to live happy and great lives, lives they wouldn't have had a chance to lead if they were aborted. You have to take into consideration Rape, health concerns to the mother and simply not wanting to go through pregnancy. That can be for many reasons, some not as selfish as "I dont want to" But school, work, etc. It is always easy for a guy to say "just have the kid". While I think the father should get a vote in the decision I think they legality of abortion should be left for women to decide. Does the baby get a vote?
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Post by Tye Hyll on Jun 27, 2013 10:33:14 GMT -5
If it was a baby by the time it was to be aborted then maybe.
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