Don't Go Down
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Post by Don't Go Down on Aug 6, 2013 14:39:32 GMT -5
Haven't seen the Elite in person yet but have to say from the protos the basic always looked better. Which is kind of annoying because looking back I had 3-4 opportunities to grab it and kind of wish I would have now.
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Post by mrhoss on Aug 6, 2013 15:29:32 GMT -5
The tights didn't bother me as much as I thought they would. I love ab crunches, elites always get the edge there but I prefer the basic scan over elite. I thought Sandow was a disappointment. Sandow is amazing... You're welcome Oh, it's still good. Great accessories. I would have gone with a different torso.
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MonsoonMan
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Post by MonsoonMan on Aug 6, 2013 15:47:25 GMT -5
looking at those side-by-side pics, it looks like the elite is bottom heavy. got that warped hourglass body shape going on
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Post by East Coast on Aug 6, 2013 16:12:12 GMT -5
Both the basic and elite have their faults.....and their good points. The elite shouldn't have those shorts. It needs some traps to make the neck area look better. The chest should be wider. The basics torso is too long and looks more like a huge buff guy.....instead of a fat body tub of funk On the plus side, I prefer the elites head. I like the face. I think it looks more like him. I love the claw hand. The chest might be too thin.....but the pecs are more like a fat guy....then the broad chest on the basic. The skinny arms on the elite look more accurate to me. For the basic, of course the huge broad chest looks better. It has accurate trunks, and i prefer the darker red color they used. The tattoos look better on the basic. I've also noticed that the elite Tensai looks more accurate when u tilt the ab crunch all the way up. When he's hunched over just a little....it takes alot of his size away. still wish we got these armpads *on a side note.....the ripped Sheamus/Del Rio torso annoys me, everytime i look at my e22 Sandow
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 17:48:06 GMT -5
I think it is actually a great figure. Just no place for him in my collection
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Post by RatedN on Aug 6, 2013 20:09:09 GMT -5
I agree, I'm kind of disappointed with this figure, mainly how the trunks are like shorts, It may just be me nitpicking but It really does irritate me.
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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Aug 6, 2013 23:11:34 GMT -5
The basic is a lot nicer than the Elite. I like the headscan on the basic a lot more.
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Post by Justin on Aug 6, 2013 23:20:27 GMT -5
I prefer the elite simply because I display with the robe
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 6, 2013 23:45:39 GMT -5
The Basic is VASTLY superior. The torso is one of the best, and an amazing likeness. I don't buy basics, but I saw the Basic Tensai and knew that I had to buy it. In fact, the second I saw pics of Elite Tensai, I immediately knew that I would only buy the entrance gear and put it on the basic. The Baisc is my Tensai. This is a rare case where the Elite is trumped in likeness by the Basic (Zeke and Lesnar are two other examples. I'm sorry, but that torso is amazing in basic form.)
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Post by poindizzle on Aug 7, 2013 8:47:25 GMT -5
Yeah, the torso is strange, and the arms are both thinner and longer. The distance between elbow and wrist is ever so slightly longer but it is made to look a mile too long by the smaller biceps. The torso, like someone else had said, looks like a Deluxe Aggression mold, mostly due to the tooling. Mattel has previously done such awesome work with making the articulation flush and the joints well hidden. The skinny neck and head that's too large for the post is again another thing making it look like a Jakks DA. The basic's head lines up well, I prefer the portrait, and the chest might be too huge but that's better than no mass at all.
I don't usually get this up in arms about the design of the figures, until now I have had so very few things to really nitpick from Mattel (outside of the poor elite punk/miz/d-bry torso). This figure is bad. If I had seen him without the robe in person first, I probably wouldn't have gotten him. He's not the worst, I'll grant you, but when you set a high bar and then fall so short it makes it seem like a poor effort.
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MR._SOCKO
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Aug 7, 2013 9:28:31 GMT -5
Yeah, the basic is waaaaay better. He wore trunks not biker shorts so I'm not sure what happened with that Elite figure. He has a trunks mold and they just painted it over it. That's a page out of the Jakks playbook. The only things the Elite Tensai has going for it is a better head and his entrance gear.
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Post by B Dubya on Aug 7, 2013 9:34:10 GMT -5
Saying the elite is one of the worst figures they've made is an ignorant and stupid statement. Especially if you back the argument up with the fact that you prefer the basic version of him more. The basic is a GREAT figure, but the elite is an awesome addition to any collection as well. Some people will complain just to complain, I swear.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Aug 7, 2013 9:42:44 GMT -5
I agree, I'm kind of disappointed with this figure, mainly how the trunks are like shorts, It may just be me nitpicking but It really does irritate me. It's not just you. It really bugs me too. Trying to figure out what legs will fit onto his body. The Basic has such weird proportions, with its huge upper body and tiny legs.
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Post by poindizzle on Aug 7, 2013 10:08:27 GMT -5
Saying the elite is one of the worst figures they've made is an ignorant and stupid statement. Especially if you back the argument up with the fact that you prefer the basic version of him more. The basic is a GREAT figure, but the elite is an awesome addition to any collection as well. Some people will complain just to complain, I swear. So you're saying that it's ignorant for anyone to have an opinion that is not yours. If I state (which I did) what I found wrong with the Elite and what I found right with the Basic and then state my OPINION about it, then I'm ignorant? Objectively comparing products and deciding which one is my preference isn't how forming an opinion works? Wow, guess I can't prefer Mattel on the grounds that I like it better than Jakks Pacific by that logic. Simple fact is that I have an opinion based on aesthetic preference which will always be mine and mine alone and the whole foundation of subjectivity, and you have an opinion based on faulty logic. Who's ignorant again?
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Post by becks007 on Aug 7, 2013 11:11:37 GMT -5
I never noticed it at first, but now after seeing that photo of the basic and elite Tensai side by side, the basic figure looks a lot better. The torso and tattoos looks so much better than the elite.... This is perhaps one of the few occasions where a basic figure edges out over the elite.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 11:29:48 GMT -5
The Elite looks great with the robe and mask on, the basic is a much better figure though.
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MR._SOCKO
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Post by MR._SOCKO on Aug 7, 2013 11:46:43 GMT -5
Saying the elite is one of the worst figures they've made is an ignorant and stupid statement. Especially if you back the argument up with the fact that you prefer the basic version of him more. The basic is a GREAT figure, but the elite is an awesome addition to any collection as well. Some people will complain just to complain, I swear. So you're saying that it's ignorant for anyone to have an opinion that is not yours. If I state (which I did) what I found wrong with the Elite and what I found right with the Basic and then state my OPINION about it, then I'm ignorant? Objectively comparing products and deciding which one is my preference isn't how forming an opinion works? Wow, guess I can't prefer Mattel on the grounds that I like it better than Jakks Pacific by that logic. Simple fact is that I have an opinion based on aesthetic preference which will always be mine and mine alone and the whole foundation of subjectivity, and you have an opinion based on faulty logic. Who's ignorant again? Yeah, I agree with poindizzle. BDubya, we're not complaining just to complain. This is one of the instances where there's actually a valid argument with the complaints.
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Post by spookytuesday on Aug 7, 2013 11:51:40 GMT -5
I agree that the basic is way better, and this is coming from a guy who only collects elites. The trunks look better, the head scan is better, and his torso looks infinitely better. Maybe it's that ab-cruncher articulation that elites have that make him look off, but his elite body looks nothing like his actual body. That said though, the elite accessories are awesome.
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Post by poindizzle on Aug 7, 2013 11:55:49 GMT -5
I agree that the basic is way better, and this is coming from a guy who only collects elites. The trunks look better, the head scan is better, and his torso looks infinitely better. Maybe it's that ab-cruncher articulation that elites have that make him look off, but his elite body looks nothing like his actual body. That said though, the elite accessories are awesome. The robe is great looking and the fact that he had it on in the package hid how weird his body looks. I'm just hoping that they have the opportunity to fix it on an upcoming Elite since he wears pants and a singlet now. I am a collector of both basics and elites for this very reason. I've yet to see an Elite Daniel Bryan, for instance, that I liked better than the basics. I also like the smaller Cody Rhodes basics over the E13 and especially E20 figures.
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Post by Rob7274 on Aug 7, 2013 12:13:50 GMT -5
I think the Elites Fantastic!
One of my favourites at the moment.
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