B Dubya
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Post by B Dubya on Aug 7, 2013 22:39:06 GMT -5
Saying the elite is one of the worst figures they've made is an ignorant and stupid statement. Especially if you back the argument up with the fact that you prefer the basic version of him more. The basic is a GREAT figure, but the elite is an awesome addition to any collection as well. Some people will complain just to complain, I swear. So you're saying that it's ignorant for anyone to have an opinion that is not yours. If I state (which I did) what I found wrong with the Elite and what I found right with the Basic and then state my OPINION about it, then I'm ignorant? Objectively comparing products and deciding which one is my preference isn't how forming an opinion works? Wow, guess I can't prefer Mattel on the grounds that I like it better than Jakks Pacific by that logic. Simple fact is that I have an opinion based on aesthetic preference which will always be mine and mine alone and the whole foundation of subjectivity, and you have an opinion based on faulty logic. Who's ignorant again? Wow, reading is hard, huh? Guess holding your tongue and not crying is, too. You weren't quoted specifically, so there's your first flaw. Secondly, when it's stated by someone "the elite is one of the worst figures Mattel has ever made," and then the only backing is that the basic is preferred over it (which is fine, the basic is a fine figure in itself), then yes, that's ignorant. Especially when you consider the fact that there wouldn't be an uproar about the mistakes of the figure had the basic not been so good for what it was. This wasn't a "this figure is the WORST they've made, even worse than X, Y, and Z!". This was "this figure is crapand I love the basic." So, yes, if you're going to post a wall of text that has little to do with the initial post that my comment was referring to, you are in fact ignorant.
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Post by JCF on Aug 7, 2013 23:31:59 GMT -5
I like the elite tensai. Not perfect but it's a cool figure
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Bizzle
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Joined on: Aug 8, 2011 6:31:04 GMT -5
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Post by Bizzle on Aug 8, 2013 0:14:38 GMT -5
Prefer the basic.. The torso is a much better likeness to that of Tensai... Elite seems a tad skinny.
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Post by poindizzle on Aug 8, 2013 0:30:29 GMT -5
So you're saying that it's ignorant for anyone to have an opinion that is not yours. If I state (which I did) what I found wrong with the Elite and what I found right with the Basic and then state my OPINION about it, then I'm ignorant? Objectively comparing products and deciding which one is my preference isn't how forming an opinion works? Wow, guess I can't prefer Mattel on the grounds that I like it better than Jakks Pacific by that logic. Simple fact is that I have an opinion based on aesthetic preference which will always be mine and mine alone and the whole foundation of subjectivity, and you have an opinion based on faulty logic. Who's ignorant again? Wow, reading is hard, huh? Guess holding your tongue and not crying is, too. You weren't quoted specifically, so there's your first flaw. Secondly, when it's stated by someone "the elite is one of the worst figures Mattel has ever made," and then the only backing is that the basic is preferred over it (which is fine, the basic is a fine figure in itself), then yes, that's ignorant. Especially when you consider the fact that there wouldn't be an uproar about the mistakes of the figure had the basic not been so good for what it was. This wasn't a "this figure is the WORST they've made, even worse than X, Y, and Z!". This was "this figure is crap and I love the basic." So, yes, if you're going to post a wall of text that has little to do with the initial post that my comment was referring to, you are in fact ignorant. "Saying the elite is one of the worst figures they've made is an ignorant and stupid statement." Those are your words and I did in fact say it was one of the worst elites ever made. I certainly made it a point to say that it wasn't one of the worst action figures ever made, but it was one of the worst Mattel WWE ones. If the other fellow who echoed the same sentiment just happened to not elaborate that doesn't make him ignorant. Maybe not so great at discussion, but not ignorant. I think people would still take issue with this figure in spite of the basic, especially since some people that are not so keen on the figure don't even collect basics. You coming on to a public forum where people can discuss whatever they want and hold whatever opinion they want (as long as it's not offensive) and then telling them they are ignorant is in fact ignorant on your part. You wanna insult people because you think the figure is an excellent addition and some people don't see it the same way? Guess what. Ignorant. Ignorant. Ignorant. THE END.
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B Dubya
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Post by B Dubya on Aug 8, 2013 0:52:13 GMT -5
Wow, reading is hard, huh? Guess holding your tongue and not crying is, too. You weren't quoted specifically, so there's your first flaw. Secondly, when it's stated by someone "the elite is one of the worst figures Mattel has ever made," and then the only backing is that the basic is preferred over it (which is fine, the basic is a fine figure in itself), then yes, that's ignorant. Especially when you consider the fact that there wouldn't be an uproar about the mistakes of the figure had the basic not been so good for what it was. This wasn't a "this figure is the WORST they've made, even worse than X, Y, and Z!". This was "this figure is crap and I love the basic." So, yes, if you're going to post a wall of text that has little to do with the initial post that my comment was referring to, you are in fact ignorant. "Saying the elite is one of the worst figures they've made is an ignorant and stupid statement." Those are your words and I did in fact say it was one of the worst elites ever made. I certainly made it a point to say that it wasn't one of the worst action figures ever made, but it was one of the worst Mattel WWE ones. If the other fellow who echoed the same sentiment just happened to not elaborate that doesn't make him ignorant. Maybe not so great at discussion, but not ignorant. I think people would still take issue with this figure in spite of the basic, especially since some people that are not so keen on the figure don't even collect basics. You coming on to a public forum where people can discuss whatever they want and hold whatever opinion they want (as long as it's not offensive) and then telling them they are ignorant is in fact ignorant on your part. You wanna insult people because you think the figure is an excellent addition and some people don't see it the same way? Guess what. Ignorant. Ignorant. Ignorant. THE END. You've basically taken your first wall of text and placed it here with some different phrasing. By your own logic posted twice now, you're being a hypocrite as I stated my opinion on the situation, and we're all allowed to express our opinions freely. Your words, not mine. Really though, I don't care. It's a waste of time to argue about something that obviously won't go anywhere. I made a statement, which I'm allowed to do, and you attacked it despite telling me that I'm coming on here to "insult" people. Obviously you'll respond to this so you can have the "last word" so please hurry up and do so. Then this thread can get back on track and not deal with this pointless pissing contest.
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Post by East Coast on Aug 8, 2013 3:42:12 GMT -5
"pointless pissing contest" directed at a user named "poindizzle"?
there's a joke somewhere in there. I just don't have the energy to make one
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