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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Nov 28, 2013 2:22:23 GMT -5
Championships in professional wrestling have always been a subject of great debate. Are they prestigious awards or props in a show? What does it mean where a fan uses a wrestler's title history to advocate their talent? Does the title make the man or does the man make the title? Why is every primary title prefaced with "Heavyweight" when there are no weight classes in professional wrestling? And what does it mean to be a "World's Champion" where it seems every promotion that ever been recognized at the national level(Regardless of country) declares their primary title "THE" World's championship?
I suppose I'm splitting hairs. Anyway, there have been countless discussion, debates, statements, & inquiries about the greatest wrestlers to never win a World's title.
A list often topped with names such as Ted Dibiase, Roddy Piper, Ad Santel, Jake Roberts, Gorgeous George, Danny Hodge, Scott Hall, & even Curt Hennig even though he was AWA world heavyweight champion, BUT! But, but, but, but, I've never seen(in all my years on this forum which stands at 9) a thread discussing the best professional wrestler who was never awarded any form of a championship.
So please discuss who you believe was the best wrestler to never win ANY championship title.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 2:23:17 GMT -5
Jake "The Snake" Roberts
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Post by Jeremiah on Nov 28, 2013 2:28:51 GMT -5
He won a belt in nwa
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Post by Jeremiah on Nov 28, 2013 2:29:56 GMT -5
I would say ludvig borga lol
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 2:31:59 GMT -5
Piper was IC champ. Dibiase won a couple of regional titles too if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 2:32:10 GMT -5
George Steele, he never won a singles title. NWA (Detroit) World Tag Team titles with Frankie Lane.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 28, 2013 2:47:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure every wrestler that wrestled for AWA, NWA, WCW, ECW or WWF in the 80s - early 2000s held a belt in one of those promotions or at least in a regional promotion.
For example, you can say Gangrel never held a title in the WWF. Yet he was USWA Heavyweight Champion, as well as many regional championship titles.
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Post by Jack on Nov 28, 2013 2:49:43 GMT -5
Roberts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 3:47:00 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Tatanka.
Never won a title in WWF, ECW, NWA, WCW or AWA
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 28, 2013 4:36:31 GMT -5
yeah,this is kinda hard. for chrissakes,even Pete Gas is a former WWF Hardcore Champion!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 4:38:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I feel like every wrestler that we know of has had at least ONE title in their career.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Nov 28, 2013 10:20:50 GMT -5
Piper was IC champ. Dibiase won a couple of regional titles too if I'm not mistaken. The list I mentioned was the typical lot of "Best to never win the big one" candidates. I should probably edit that.
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Post by Turnbuckle Zealot(Phil) on Nov 28, 2013 10:22:32 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Tatanka. Never won a title in WWF, ECW, NWA, WCW or AWA That's actually quite droll, considering he was one of the first names that popped into my head when I first proposed the question.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 10:37:27 GMT -5
I'm gonna say Tatanka. Never won a title in WWF, ECW, NWA, WCW or AWA That's actually quite droll, considering he was one of the first names that popped into my head when I first proposed the question. Well he was due for the IC strap at WM9 but Shawn put a stop to that unfortunately. It's a big shame because he was very talented, and IMO one of the most under rated wrestlers of all time. He's one of those guys (a bit like Billy Gunn) that was a huge victim of circumstance. Not getting the IC strap at WM9, then losing to Borga who ended up getting injured and disappearing, getting left off the WM10 card, then turning heel joining the Mid-card corporation then he kinda just faded away. His career was certainly derailed by the Kliq. The weird thing is, that his 06-07 run was plagued by circumstantial crap too (although there was also bad booking). Him turning heel on Lex at SS could have been good if he stayed solo. Maybe chased the IC title, a feud with Razor would have been quite cool. He never even really got a blow off against Luger at a PPV after SS... AND he was left off the WM11 card . In a way his 2 year undefeated streak became it's own title/accomplishment though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 11:32:31 GMT -5
I have no idea if we are counting regional and indy titles.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 11:34:29 GMT -5
hard to say really......most guys have won a strap somewhere.
Ill keep it WWF and then Ill say.........Mr Wonderful Paul Orndorff because he is the best guy(hands down)that didn't win a title of some sort during his WWF run.such a pity he got injured.
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Post by Justin on Nov 28, 2013 11:55:17 GMT -5
Strictly WWF Raven besides the crappy hardcore title
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Post by LtD73 on Nov 28, 2013 11:58:08 GMT -5
Strictly WWF Raven besides the crappy hardcore title However crappy you may think it, it's still a title.
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Post by Justin on Nov 28, 2013 12:11:06 GMT -5
Strictly WWF Raven besides the crappy hardcore title However crappy you may think it, it's still a title. It was defended in a ball pit thus losing its validity
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2013 12:15:14 GMT -5
hard to say really......most guys have won a strap somewhere. Ill keep it WWF and then Ill say.........Mr Wonderful Paul Orndorff because he is the best guy(hands down)that didn't win a title of some sort during his WWF run.such a pity he got injured. That's a pretty bold statement man. Not that you're wrong as it's subjective, but you've got guys like Bigelow, Vader, Dusty, Snuka, Harley Race, Jake Roberts, Tatanka and Jerry Lawler (among others) who never won any titles in WWF.
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