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Post by deskjet on Jan 5, 2014 18:48:08 GMT -5
It's a shame Titch even has to do this to be honest. Ya know Titch is just trying to make things better, and I applaud him for that, becasue he knows that this has been a perpetual problem throughout the years on this board. I'd be interested to see how this Union works Is it possible to get a list of active feds. Active meaning at least one show a month consistently? Also, I think these discussions are beneficial to generating interest on the board. Hell I'm filming again,lol I doubt that anyone has done one show a month consistently recently, to be honest. Attitudesback has done a fair few, and some other guys have started to do it lately. I've managed 9 in 10 months. Here's a rough list of people who have posted shows lately: BWR GWV WFW OTC OEX CPW GWF MWF MWFA WWEJ MXW Then there's others who post shows from time to time: TWA FIW And also coming soon: WTF BDW 3XW That's a hefty list. If most of those people reply, you've got 12+ replies. Throw in guys like Punk, Jack, etc, who reply, and you got a good amount of feedback. We could always trial it for a month or two to see whether it works? EXACTLY. No one should be getting 5 replies a show. I'm not promoting it but heck, throw the rubric in, type in some numbers and a sentence and you can get some quick replies in. It'd be nice to see a committment from at least 8-10 fedders. I think you'd see a restoration in community as well
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 5, 2014 18:53:14 GMT -5
No offense to anyone but a "union" is a terrible idea. You cant force someone to do something they have no desire to do. If you dont want to view/reply to a fed then you're simply not going to do it. Not everyone likes the same thing. Sorry but if you have an Indy fed or a death match fed, Im not going to watch it cause it doesnt interest me. If that costs me replies from my show, then so be it. You shouldnt fed because you want people to reply to your fed, you should do it because you enjoy doing it.
I do however like the rubric idea for replying. Use it for each match as a "brief reply" to the match and then at the end give an overall summary of the event of what you liked/didnt like.
I know Im never hear anymore but I peek in to see whats going on from time to time but it seems like things keep getting micro managed. I dont think you can put rules and restrictions on what you can and cant do as a fedder. If you want to fed, then do it. If you want to reply, then do it. If you dont, then dont. If you put out a great show and never reply to any and then your show doesnt get any replies, you have nobody to blame but yourself. There shouldnt be someone standing over you holding your hand saying "you need to reply to others show"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 19:03:52 GMT -5
Why would I reply to peoples shows that don't reply to mine??? What happened to the old rule standard give a reply get a reply??? Why come up with new ideas when things slow down??? This has been a problem since I got on this board with replies and such. People reply to their buddies shows. Period. They support their friends and rarely a newbie comes in and gets accepted been that way forever on here. So does that mean if I don't subscribe to a pic fed union or use a rubrick I can't participate and reply??? What if you just want to reply to the stuff you like why would I reply to someone's who shows I don't care for? ![???](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/huh.gif) Didn't we have these exact same discussions last January??? In an idea thread??? Wow déjà Vu. Man!!
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Post by T on Jan 5, 2014 19:06:17 GMT -5
No offense to anyone but a "union" is a terrible idea. You cant force someone to do something they have no desire to do. If you dont want to view/reply to a fed then you're simply not going to do it. Not everyone likes the same thing. Sorry but if you have an Indy fed or a death match fed, Im not going to watch it cause it doesnt interest me. If that costs me replies from my show, then so be it. You shouldnt fed because you want people to reply to your fed, you should do it because you enjoy doing it. I do however like the rubric idea for replying. Use it for each match as a "brief reply" to the match and then at the end give an overall summary of the event of what you liked/didnt like. I know Im never hear anymore but I peek in to see whats going on from time to time but it seems like things keep getting micro managed. I dont think you can put rules and restrictions on what you can and cant do as a fedder. If you want to fed, then do it. If you want to reply, then do it. If you dont, then dont. If you put out a great show and never reply to any and then your show doesnt get any replies, you have nobody to blame but yourself. There shouldnt be someone standing over you holding your hand saying "you need to reply to others show" Fair points, nice to see you getting involved, Nivro. ![:)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/smiley.gif) My issue with the "you shouldn't do it for the replies, you should do it for fun" idea, is that I think the two go hand in hand. Part of the fun of fedding is watching other people's reactions to your work.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 5, 2014 19:13:26 GMT -5
No offense to anyone but a "union" is a terrible idea. You cant force someone to do something they have no desire to do. If you dont want to view/reply to a fed then you're simply not going to do it. Not everyone likes the same thing. Sorry but if you have an Indy fed or a death match fed, Im not going to watch it cause it doesnt interest me. If that costs me replies from my show, then so be it. You shouldnt fed because you want people to reply to your fed, you should do it because you enjoy doing it. I do however like the rubric idea for replying. Use it for each match as a "brief reply" to the match and then at the end give an overall summary of the event of what you liked/didnt like. I know Im never hear anymore but I peek in to see whats going on from time to time but it seems like things keep getting micro managed. I dont think you can put rules and restrictions on what you can and cant do as a fedder. If you want to fed, then do it. If you want to reply, then do it. If you dont, then dont. If you put out a great show and never reply to any and then your show doesnt get any replies, you have nobody to blame but yourself. There shouldnt be someone standing over you holding your hand saying "you need to reply to others show" Fair points, nice to see you getting involved, Nivro. ![:)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/smiley.gif) My issue with the "you shouldn't do it for the replies, you should do it for fun" idea, is that I think the two go hand in hand. Part of the fun of fedding is watching other people's reactions to your work. I understand that but if you make a show and member A, B, C and D reply to your show but E, F, G dont...Then simply dont reply to E, F, G show. When they start to realize their show's arent getting the response they should, it should give them the motivation to start replying. If not, then they have no grounds to stand on if they start complaining about replying. Again, its not directed at you Titch or anyone else its just replying should be looked at as "You scratch my back and Ill scratch yours."
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Post by T on Jan 5, 2014 19:16:03 GMT -5
Fair points, nice to see you getting involved, Nivro. ![:)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/smiley.gif) My issue with the "you shouldn't do it for the replies, you should do it for fun" idea, is that I think the two go hand in hand. Part of the fun of fedding is watching other people's reactions to your work. I understand that but if you make a show and member A, B, C and D reply to your show but E, F, G dont...Then simply dont reply to E, F, G show. When they start to realize their show's arent getting the response they should, it should give them the motivation to start replying. If not, then they have no grounds to stand on if they start complaining about replying. Again, its not directed at you Titch or anyone else its just replying should be looked at as "You scratch my back and Ill scratch yours." I agree that it should, but it doesn't seem to be happening unfortunately. I just wondered whether it needed a revamp. Maybe it just needs a reminder for now, and possibly the rubric that people can opt to use (not obligatory), with other ideas already there if something needs to be done. All healthy discussion though, good to see.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 5, 2014 19:20:13 GMT -5
I dont mind the rubric at all. I think simplifying replying is a lot better and more "friendly" then forcing or threatening someone to reply. If I posted a show with 3 matches and 2 segments and the rubric idea was used for each match and then at the end you put a paragraph or even less of what you liked or didnt like....I would be more then happy with that. I agree the "kewl 10/10 hope to see more" is a shoddy way of replying. To me that says "I scrolled through your pics but thats it".
Just like I said with members joining up, simplifying things, to me, sounds like a much better option for things then more rules and regulations so to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 19:36:31 GMT -5
I thought the rubric was just a suggestion? Not a mandatory thing? I think if several people started using the rubric, it might encourage others to do so. I'm not super high on the idea, but I can see how it might be useful to some.
I'm not sure I entirely understand the union thing. I get the intention, but it seems like a lot.
Since we're throwing out ideas to help with activity and replies, I have a suggestion. Feel free to use it or not, just a thought.
What if once, say every 2 weeks (or once a month if need be depending on activity) Titch made a post with links to ALL the shows that were posted that month (2 Weeks, whatever period of time) and the links be to the actual THREADS, not the shows themselves. As sort of a wrap-up of what we saw in that period of time. Then people could go in see what has been posted and reply to the individual show threads.
I know a lot of times, shows get lost in the shuffle. Sometimes I don't see that shows have been posted or whatever. But if you had a bi-weekly wrap up, then people could see the threads, know the shows and perhaps get a bit of a feel for how often folks are posting.
It's not forcing anyone to reply or anything, it doesn't require anyone to do anything, but it basically serves as a plug for all the shows that have been posted up recently and encourages people to read the show and visit that thread for feedback because they see that it's there.
One of the things I'm doing right now is doing a bit of catch up on some recent shows that I missed while I was sick, so if there were threads like this readily available, I could pinpoint exactly what I saw last and keep up to date on each fed. Stuff often gets bumped down by a variety of different things, but if this was pinned up each period, we'd know who posted what since the last time. Good way to keep track of everything and then the easier it is for folks to find, the more likely they are to respond.
Again, just a suggestion.
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Post by T on Jan 5, 2014 19:51:14 GMT -5
I really like that idea, fandan. Great way of collecting the recent shows together.
If it was done monthly, we could vote for show of the month and possibly match of the month. Would make it easier when short listing for the awards at the end of the year.
The rubric won't be mandatory, I shouldn't think. Just there to help people who are stuck with what to write.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jan 5, 2014 20:26:33 GMT -5
Fandan has a great idea, and then titch's idea tops it off, having them together to vote for of the month stuff would be awesome
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Post by deskjet on Jan 5, 2014 20:50:16 GMT -5
I really like that idea, fandan. Great way of collecting the recent shows together. If it was done monthly, we could vote for show of the month and possibly match of the month. Would make it easier when short listing for the awards at the end of the year. The rubric won't be mandatory, I shouldn't think. Just there to help people who are stuck with what to write. Agreed. the shows really get lost in the shuffle and it gets overwhelming to keep up. Maybe a thread to house the pic fed and match of the month winners as well? Organization is important. If anyone wants the rubric revised in anyway, which no, is not mandatory, just let me know.
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Post by Jack on Jan 6, 2014 5:01:47 GMT -5
I really like that idea, fandan. Great way of collecting the recent shows together. If it was done monthly, we could vote for show of the month and possibly match of the month. Would make it easier when short listing for the awards at the end of the year. The rubric won't be mandatory, I shouldn't think. Just there to help people who are stuck with what to write. Agreed. the shows really get lost in the shuffle and it gets overwhelming to keep up. Maybe a thread to house the pic fed and match of the month winners as well? Organization is important. If anyone wants the rubric revised in anyway, which no, is not mandatory, just let me know. I would like the Rubric man, means I wont forget anything. But yeah, Falls idea is good. It is just keeping it all organised and making sure things do not get lost in the shuffled.
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Post by thecolt on Jan 6, 2014 11:38:14 GMT -5
Finally got my computer back up and running. Did I miss anything ? Just kidding. My Figamania match will be posted this week sometime. Sorry for the lateness.
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Post by StingerSplash on Jan 6, 2014 13:31:47 GMT -5
I realize I don't have much room to say anything around here anymore, and I apologize for missing Figamania. The whole 'time' thing that Nivro brought up is my main hangup as to why I'm not fedding right now. But that's an excuse and I should've never signed up for the event if I was afraid I couldn't get it finished. I apologize.
I will say that there are some great up and coming Feds here, and although I rarely have time to view them, I do get the feeling that there is a lot of potential.
I love the idea of placing the month's shows in one thread, as well as the 'match' or 'show of the month' idea. Not only does that make it easier for everyone to see the most recent shows, but it also gives people an incentive to try and get something up every month. Whether it's a full show or just a match or two.
I do want to see this board thrive again, even though I just don't have the time to contribute right now. As you guys know from my previous stints here: dealing with school, cross country and basketball, my time is very limited. I hope to one day be able to fed full-time again, and actually follow through with a commitment. Until that time, I'm going to try and do a better job of viewing, replying, and just overall helping this board in any way I can.
I hope you guys will forgive me for missing Figamania, and I look forward to seeing where the board goes from here.
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Post by Wicked on Jan 7, 2014 15:54:59 GMT -5
I do this all for fun.... Not for views.... not for replies..... not for political stuff like this.... This is a hobby. We are taking pictures while playing with toys. Don't try to complex it. Lets all just enjoy it.
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Post by deskjet on Jan 7, 2014 17:38:58 GMT -5
I do this all for fun.... Not for views.... not for replies..... not for political stuff like this.... This is a hobby. We are taking pictures while playing with toys. Don't try to complex it. Lets all just enjoy it. Some of us just need a little more incentive ![;)](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wink.gif) Nothing wrong with being appreciated for your hard work either ![:D](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/grin.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 18:54:01 GMT -5
It is a fairly simple concept...
IF you view a show, leave a reply, regardless if you liked it or not. Tell the person that posted what you did not like and give them a chance, they might improve upon it next time.
If you want to know how to do something, weather it be a pose or a stage ask the person. They need to tell you point blank its how the community will grow.
You do not need to do a show in order to leave feedback, and if you think that you need to be slapped. People view it because it is entertaining and people know what they like and do not like. You do not need to do a show to have an opinion.
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