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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 13:04:05 GMT -5
I am fine with it. I never liked having them both around anyway. But there is no way they keep the US Title over the IC title. If they do this, Big E wins, and it stays the IC title. Now what WOULD be cool, would be a best of 7 title unification series. Have past champions weigh in on the importance of both titles, even argue over which is more prestigious. Actually build this up. But instead we will get a one off match with no actual feud. Kind of shooting with a blindfold here, but could this be what Piper teased on Twitter?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 13:40:44 GMT -5
If it's true, I really hope not. WWE could benefit having two mid card titles. Have the Intercontinental Title be on the level it was in the 80's where on house shows would be the main event and have the United States title be on the level that the European title was when it came out, be a title for the mid card/lower card to get a small push. If they end up unifying them, I see Big E Langston winning. Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem with either Ambrose or Langston winning as I am big fan of both guys. I just thought of something funny, they might as well get rid of the Night of Champions since if this becomes reality, there would only be four titles defended on that PPV. So yeah they should get rid of the Night of Champions PPV. Let's see if this news is actually true, as I think it would be a mistake to unify those titles since there would be even more wrestlers pushed aside and a lot of wrestlers could benefit from having both mid card titles around. Keep both titles around. The ic title is for upper mid carders ready for the main event while the us title is for lower mid carders who don't have a shot at the big title, similar to the euro title back in the day. No! NO!!! We need 2 Mid-Card championships. HMM. I don't really know what to make of this one. I can see the merits of keeping both titles around.... More than one midcard title is needed. And the lower midcard should have its own belt, similar to the Euro Title. But it shouldn't be the U.S. Title. The U.S. Title has been booked into a corner. Ambrose has been pushed so hard as a member of the Shield that none of the lower midcarders will be a credible threat to him. Would you really buy someone like Heath Slater, Zack Ryder, Alex Riley, Yoshi Tatsu, Justin Gabriel, or Titus O'Neil beating a guy who's been going over main eventers for months and months? WWE would have to rely on former World Champions/demoted main eventers like The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Rey Mysterio, and Mark Henry to give Ambrose viable competition. So it would be as if they still had two upper midcard titles. It's best to start over with a new title so that the lower card guys have a belt they can REALISTICALLY win.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 12, 2014 13:49:57 GMT -5
I am fine with it. I never liked having them both around anyway. But there is no way they keep the US Title over the IC title. If they do this, Big E wins, and it stays the IC title. Now what WOULD be cool, would be a best of 7 title unification series. Have past champions weigh in on the importance of both titles, even argue over which is more prestigious. Actually build this up. But instead we will get a one off match with no actual feud. Kind of shooting with a blindfold here, but could this be what Piper teased on Twitter? That's what I thought originally as well. We are still a ways out from EC though so who knows. If something is going to happen Monday with the US Title, then it will set something up for the Rumble. I guess we shall see though. I don't think we are getting Ambrose vs Big E at Mania, so it makes more sense to me to do the unification at Rumble, a rematch at EC, and then whatever feud is going to happen over the newly unified midcard title heading into Mania.
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Post by Captain Charisma on Jan 12, 2014 13:50:49 GMT -5
I'd rather they just get rid of the US title and keep the IC title.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 12, 2014 13:55:42 GMT -5
If it's true, I really hope not. WWE could benefit having two mid card titles. Have the Intercontinental Title be on the level it was in the 80's where on house shows would be the main event and have the United States title be on the level that the European title was when it came out, be a title for the mid card/lower card to get a small push. If they end up unifying them, I see Big E Langston winning. Honestly, I wouldn't have a problem with either Ambrose or Langston winning as I am big fan of both guys. I just thought of something funny, they might as well get rid of the Night of Champions since if this becomes reality, there would only be four titles defended on that PPV. So yeah they should get rid of the Night of Champions PPV. Let's see if this news is actually true, as I think it would be a mistake to unify those titles since there would be even more wrestlers pushed aside and a lot of wrestlers could benefit from having both mid card titles around. Keep both titles around. The ic title is for upper mid carders ready for the main event while the us title is for lower mid carders who don't have a shot at the big title, similar to the euro title back in the day. No! NO!!! We need 2 Mid-Card championships. HMM. I don't really know what to make of this one. I can see the merits of keeping both titles around.... More than one midcard title is needed. And the lower midcard should have its own belt, similar to the Euro Title. But it shouldn't be the U.S. Title. The U.S. Title has been booked into a corner. Ambrose has been pushed so hard as a member of the Shield that none of the lower midcarders will be a credible threat to him. Would you really buy someone like Heath Slater, Zack Ryder, Alex Riley, Yoshi Tatsu, Justin Gabriel, or Titus O'Neil beating a guy who's been going over main eventers for months and months? WWE would have to rely on former World Champions/demoted main eventers like The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Rey Mysterio, and Mark Henry to give Ambrose viable competition. So it would be as if they still had two upper midcard titles. It's best to start over with a new title so that the lower card guys have a belt they can REALISTICALLY win. The members of the shield have been pushed as unbeatable when together. With dissention in the group they lose their cool and struggle. Having someone like Ziggler or even a guy like Titus catch Ambrose by surprise would give them and the title a little boost and allow it to move to the lower card without anyone being hurt.
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Post by slappy on Jan 12, 2014 14:04:28 GMT -5
THAT
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Post by Chief on Jan 12, 2014 14:09:28 GMT -5
I really think it's the people who grew up with the Attitude Era that think they need to have 2 belts.
They've already proven that they can't manage to make two lower card belts important. I don't see that changing.
Millions of the titles waters down every title. They don't seem important if everyone has one.
The European title beyond the first year sucked. It did nothing.
If you have only 2 singles titles over time those 2 champions are seen as important.
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Jan 12, 2014 14:10:42 GMT -5
I bet Big E. wins.
Triple threat match between The Shield at WrestleMania XXX. It won't suck like the Legacy one at WrestleMania XXVI.
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Post by Cassa Nova Kid on Jan 12, 2014 14:15:09 GMT -5
Worst Idea ever that roster is so big it needs two midcard titles
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jan 12, 2014 14:19:54 GMT -5
I hope so, it seems like they cannot live with having both midcard titles. If this is true, this puts Dean Ambrose in a better position for a storyline going into WrestleMania, being that the Shield won't have any titles. Additionally, they seem to be pushing Big E Langston pretty strong right now, so if anybody's going to be the first unified Intercontinental/United States Champion, it'd be good to have him in that position.Hmm?
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Post by Chief on Jan 12, 2014 14:27:21 GMT -5
Roster was bigger and had more depth in the late 80s/early 90s and only had the IC title.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jan 12, 2014 15:41:17 GMT -5
Great news. This should have happened a few years ago. The last time the US title had any relevance was when Ryder was chasing it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 15:41:20 GMT -5
I don't want this to happen but if it does which I would dislike there is 2 ways to go. 1. Have ambrose lose then blaming it on reigns and Rollins and then shield breakup. OR 2.they make him win and he starts saying he is the best of the 3. Similar to what punk had them do. Then have a match at mania to see who is the best and champ. Have reigns win and start a run to fulfill Vince's needs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 15:45:31 GMT -5
looks like Ambrose will be losing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 15:46:28 GMT -5
I'd have E win. They need to build him up more and killing his IC Title reign now would be a mistake. I'd have Ambrose feud with Punk or maybe a returning Chris Jericho to build him back up.
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Post by DTP. on Jan 12, 2014 17:26:33 GMT -5
I hope so, it seems like they cannot live with having both midcard titles. If this is true, this puts Dean Ambrose in a better position for a storyline going into WrestleMania, being that the Shield won't have any titles. Additionally, they seem to be pushing Big E Langston pretty strong right now, so if anybody's going to be the first unified Intercontinental/United States Champion, it'd be good to have him in that position.Hmm? Sorry, forgettable angles are forgettable.
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Post by bigshab421 on Jan 12, 2014 17:49:00 GMT -5
That sucks if they go this route. I think Ambrose should win it since it would make sense if they still want to do the Shield 3 way match at WM for the IC and or US Title. If they play this out I think Henry will turn on Big E for not helping him in the Lesnar attack and will cost him the title, leaving Ambrose to win the match. Ambrose's head becomes too big, and boom 3 way for the IC/US title at Mania and Henry/Big E in the Mania opening match. This could easily set two good matches for WrestleMania.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2014 17:57:05 GMT -5
Roster was bigger and had more depth in the late 80s/early 90s and only had the IC title. Exactly. This is exactly why guys like Bigelow and Jake Roberts never got to hold titles.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Jan 12, 2014 17:59:52 GMT -5
I'm already getting soo tired of Big E's push. Is he physically impressive? Yes. Does he have a lot of in-ring potential? Yes.
It just seems like they are trying so desperately hard to find the "next big star", the next Cena/Rock/Austin/Michaels/Hart/Hogan, which I get, but those guys all had mega-qualities that Big E doesn't have. They were either amazing in-ring performers, or amazing on the mic. Cena, arguably the closet to Big E, could still blow him away on the mic (also Cena can sell so much better). I just don't see why this meteoric push is so justified.
It's just too bad that WWE has compromised so many other stars who've been right there (how about the most over star in years like Bryan), or guys who could be main eventers like Ziggler, Sandow or Ambrose. Sandow should be a main event heel. The dude has a great handle on his character, with good ring work and is a top 5 guy on the mic.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jan 12, 2014 18:14:05 GMT -5
I'd have Dean Ambrose win this won, but I honestly don't care who wins though.
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