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Post by Joey Cush on Jan 29, 2014 23:44:17 GMT -5
Any updates on the matter? I just got home from work and I dont feel like reading through 8 pages.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 23:53:04 GMT -5
If this isn't a work, then good for Punk. I'm actually glad he did this.
The guy busts his ass making all of his storylines work as well as he can and is constantly playing second fiddle to part-timers who are just in it for the massive paycheck. And it's not just Punk, Daniel Bryan does the same thing and has been the most over guy in recent memory and yet Batista gets the spot he deserves, or Brock Lesnar instead of the guys who work almost all year.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jan 29, 2014 23:58:25 GMT -5
If you were in line for a promotion but someone with who had less experience, left the company years ago, is getting paid more than you to work part time, just because they are a little more popular, would you be upset by that? If my job was selling WrestleMania pay-per-views, and that person was a lot better at it than I am, I'd understand the decision. This one doesn't necessarily apply. Working third from the top on a card with The Rock and Brock Lesnar might get you a better payday than headlining a card that they're not on. That last part was in reference to the Network which will possibly affect the pay of WM 30. The question isn't whether you would understand, the question would you be in anyway upset? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 0:06:39 GMT -5
Let's get real for a minute. If Punk really left, it means HHH vs Bryan at Mania....
And if HHH were to pin Bryan in The Superdome, the place would implode.
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Post by Adam on Jan 30, 2014 0:08:34 GMT -5
Payback will be very interesting if he isn't there, especially with the Chicago crowd. Personally I do feel he came back too early last year after Mania. I do feel he should have took time off after Summerslam and then a return at the rumble would have been big. Forget Payback. Raw is in Chicago on March 3 first. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Jan 30, 2014 0:08:39 GMT -5
Let's get real for a minute. If Punk really left, it means HHH vs Bryan at Mania.... And if HHH were to pin Bryan in The Superdome, the place would implode. I called that match ages ago. I dont think it was ever going to be HHH vs Punk at Mania. |
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Post by BCizzle on Jan 30, 2014 0:19:23 GMT -5
Let's get real for a minute. If Punk really left, it means HHH vs Bryan at Mania.... And if HHH were to pin Bryan in The Superdome, the place would implode. I hope that's what they do. All these guys who've said "Just way and see" for months. It would be fantastic to see Hunter pin him, and then take a dump on his chest, with a smug grin on his face. And fire him and blackball him from the industry. Eat it, IWC nerds! And why not? The Internet is nothing but a bunch of loser marks, who needs them? The WWE answers to no man, and can do whatever they want. Vince McMahon is God and Hunter is Jesus. Everybody should stop the bitching and get with the program. Stop being mindless sheep who read dirt sheets and rant on message boards, and start being mindless sheep who obey the lords of Sports Entertainment! |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 30, 2014 0:28:09 GMT -5
If my job was selling WrestleMania pay-per-views, and that person was a lot better at it than I am, I'd understand the decision. This one doesn't necessarily apply. Working third from the top on a card with The Rock and Brock Lesnar might get you a better payday than headlining a card that they're not on. That last part was in reference to the Network which will possibly affect the pay of WM 30. The question isn't whether you would understand, the question would you be in anyway upset? Not when that person getting the job made the company enough money that my own pay was better while they were there, no. |
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Post by Darkhawk on Jan 30, 2014 0:30:40 GMT -5
Apparently he really did quit and is gone for good. I'm glad CM Punk is standing up for himself he has every right to be upset.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Jan 30, 2014 0:32:08 GMT -5
That last part was in reference to the Network which will possibly affect the pay of WM 30. The question isn't whether you would understand, the question would you be in anyway upset? Not when that person getting the job made the company enough money that my own pay was better while they were there, no. So you would be content hitting that glass ceiling and never getting an opportunity to show the world what you are capable of? |
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 30, 2014 0:33:03 GMT -5
Let's get real for a minute. If Punk really left, it means HHH vs Bryan at Mania.... And if HHH were to pin Bryan in The Superdome, the place would implode. I hope that's what they do. All these guys who've said "Just way and see" for months. It would be fantastic to see Hunter pin him, and then take a dump on his chest, with a smug grin on his face. And fire him and blackball him from the industry. Eat it, IWC nerds! And why not? The Internet is nothing but a bunch of loser marks, who needs them? The WWE answers to no man, and can do whatever they want. Vince McMahon is God and Hunter is Jesus. Everybody should stop the bitching and get with the program. Stop being mindless sheep who read dirt sheets and rant on message boards, and start being mindless sheep who obey the lords of Sports Entertainment! Too tired, someone find me the "not sure if serious" Joker meme... |
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 30, 2014 0:38:36 GMT -5
People that are saying that "Punk should be happy that Batista and The Rock are coming back because they're making him more money" obviously have no clue as to why he's frustrated and why he left (assuming this whole thing isn't a work). He's financially set for life. He's said this many times before. Sure, he made a couple of half-serious comments about whether the WWE Network would affect his pay, but he obviously didn't seem too concerned with it either way if you ask me. I think his real motivation is cementing his legacy by main-eventing Wrestlemania. Maybe he found out he won't be and took off... or maybe that aspiration didn't factor into why he chose to leave. The guy has looked absolutely exhausted since his return against Jericho last summer. I think the grind of the rigorous schedule, and his perceived lack of a reward for his contributions to the company, are probably the reasons that he left.
All I can say for sure is... Punk didn't leave because he has any concerns about money.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Jan 30, 2014 0:42:10 GMT -5
DAMN IT WWE, they have been  ing up so much in just 4 days, first they piss off a handful of fans with Batista winning the Royal Rumble, and now they drive CM Punk away due to the direction the company is going storyline wise. If one of your top stars leave the company then that should be a big enough wake up call for WWE to fix what the they are doing damn it. Never have I been this pissed at the WWE in my life. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 30, 2014 0:50:29 GMT -5
Not when that person getting the job made the company enough money that my own pay was better while they were there, no. So you would be content hitting that glass ceiling and never getting an opportunity to show the world what you are capable of? Well that's where your "what if it was your job?" analogy falls down -- because if I'm working in a bank or a video store or whatever, then yes, the paycheque is far more important than "glass ceilings" and "showing the world what I am capable of." So let's do away with the "what if it was your job?" analogy that doesn't work, and look at some analogies that are closer. If I'm a musician and I'm gigging all year, then I book a big festival gig only to find out that a Beatles reunion has the headline slot at the festival, I'd feel pretty stupid to think I deserved it more. If I'm an up and coming actor working three months as the lead in a movie, and Brad Pitt comes in for a week to do a small part but he gets more money than me and higher billing on the poster... Well, hell, he's Brad Pitt. I'd feel silly bitching about that, too. He's the guy who draws more people to the movie who then might be impressed by me and see me as a star. When you're a performer, and one of the biggest stars in your field comes to work on the same show as you, you shouldn't be bitching that they're there. You should be trying to think of ways to improve and become a big enough star that companies don't feel the need to book those acts when they have you. Or, just be grateful to share screen/stage time or backstage conversations with a master of the craft whose presence is putting more money in your pocket. |
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Post by Chief on Jan 30, 2014 0:56:09 GMT -5
From what I've read it appears he has more then enough money saved up that money isn't an issue to him. When you take that off the table, why continue to work some place that continually frustrates and stresses you?
It obviously isn't working for him right now so going home, taking a break and clearing his mind is the best thing for him right now. He seems to be in rough shape physically anyway and sometime to heal his injuries will be good for him.
To me his work in the ring and on the mic has declined somewhat since Summerslam.
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Post by El Armbar on Jan 30, 2014 1:15:34 GMT -5
From what I've read in WWE Magazine and WWE.com, I get the impression the CM Punk is a professional. It seems uncharacteristic of him not to honor his contract obligations. To further the job analogy, everyone has to eat crapsometimes at work. And if you're unhappy, the professional thing to do is to give two weeks notice. Just going home is a shitty thing to do to co-workers, bosses and the company. And in CM Punk's case, it's a crappy thing to do to fans.
Maybe Stone Cold can talk some sense into him.
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Post by Rob on Jan 30, 2014 1:58:24 GMT -5
I dont blame him. WWE is slapping the faces of all the guys who work their ass off day in and day out all year round, Then comes WM season and guys like The Rock/Batista/Brock Lesnar want to come back and steal everyone's thunder. Batista should not be anywhere near the position he was just hotshotted into.. Daniel Bryan is taking a HUGE backseat. 2013 was ALL Bryan, Yet his payoff is going to be playing backburner to Batista. 2012 was ALL CM Punk, yet he had to take a backseat to The Rock.
Stone Cold and The Rock would be NOTHING right now if guys from the early 90s kept coming back as part timers to hog the spotlight and collect paychecks. Guys like Cena/Orton would be NOTHING right now if guys from the attitude era kept coming back as part timers and hogging the spot light and collecting checks. CM Punk/Bryan are getting shafted so hard by these part timers, Its going to completely ruin a new generation of stars.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 2:06:51 GMT -5
I dont blame him. WWE is slapping the faces of all the guys who work their ass off day in and day out all year round, Then comes WM season and guys like The Rock/Batista/Brock Lesnar want to come back and steal everyone's thunder. Batista should not be anywhere near the position he was just hotshotted into.. Daniel Bryan is taking a HUGE backseat. 2013 was ALL Bryan, Yet his payoff is going to be playing backburner to Batista. 2012 was ALL CM Punk, yet he had to take a backseat to The Rock. Stone Cold and The Rock would be NOTHING right now if guys from the early 90s kept coming back as part timers to hog the spotlight and collect paychecks. Guys like Cena/Orton would be NOTHING right now if guys from the attitude era kept coming back as part timers and hogging the spot light and collecting checks. CM Punk/Bryan are getting shafted so hard by these part timers, Its going to completely ruin a new generation of stars. Greatly put everybody loves punk and Bryan the people hat don't are just weirdos who wanna hate the best wrestlers cause they don't know what good wrestling is at all, or pro wrestling. An pro wrestling fan knows Bryan and punk are best for business |
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Post by King Clayton of the MidWest on Jan 30, 2014 2:21:45 GMT -5
Wow.
I've been seeing this everywhere. Even tho he's pretty much done..he's still under contract. Can he buy himself out of his contract, or, he's pretty much screw until july?
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jan 30, 2014 2:43:28 GMT -5
Everybody is barking up the wrong tree here... it's nothing to do with Batista - in fact, Punk told Ariel Helwani that he's glad Batista's back because unlike the Rock, he's back for the long term, and besides they're friends. No, there is one thing behind this, and that is the ridiculous "YESmovement and Bryan's sudden rise in popularity. It has obviously dawned on Punk, that from this point onwards, he is going to play second-fiddle not only to Cena, but now to Bryan as well. He knows that Bryan has usurped him in the eyes of the management, and they will value him more, and for a man as proud and passionate as Punk, that will be hard for him to accept... so rather than stay and watch while Bryan gets everything Punk has worked his entire career for, yet has been denied - we're talking mainly the top spot and the main-event of WM - he's decided to cut his losses and walk away now. I suspect one of the reasons behind this is to avoid potentially ruining his friendship with Bryan, because if Bryan gets added to the main-event of WM, while Punk is put in a throwaway match, then that is only going to make Punk more resentful and bitter towards both the company and possibly Bryan. Now some may view this as Punk acting like a jealous, selfish, entitled, spoilt brat - or as some of the know-alls in this thread have tagged him, a "crybaby bitch", and he might well be, but it is what it is, and sometimes human nature takes over and self-preservation mode kicks in. It puts Punk in an awkward position, because while Bryan is his friend and he wants to be pleased for him, he doesn't want to lose his own spot to him - a spot he's worked his arse off for... and that's what's happened. Anyone would feel the same way, if it happened to them. The sad thing about all this, is that it shouldn't matter if Bryan main-events WM, or takes Cena's spot, 'cos Punk should've already achieved his goal and main-evented WM, either in 2011 or last year, but as usual, he was shunted aside - last year for the crappy Rock/Cena rematch, and of course overlooked in 2011, in favour of that turd Miz - something Punk has never forgotten, and rightly so, because that was a disgrace. Furthermore, Punk should've taken Cena's spot in 2011, but the office wouldn't allow it. The bottom line, is that a few instances aside, they've never given Punk his due. Despite clearly being the best talent in the company, by a country mile, he's never been viewed as such by management, he's always been second choice and always had to take a back seat to Cena, even when he was champ for over a year. He wasn't allowed to debut the new title, because that honour went to Dwayne, and they probably told him he can't induct Warrior into the HOF. There's only so many slaps in the face you can take and the WM situation is the last straw, so he's thought " it, enough's enough" - and you can't really blame him, even though us fans are going to be deprived of seeing the best in the world, work his magic over the next six months. |
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