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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 11:55:14 GMT -5
I bought a DVD of it a couple years ago that was just a VHS recording with no editing. It'll be interesting to see of it's any different.
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Post by J12 on Feb 5, 2014 12:19:28 GMT -5
I have absolutely no qualms about them including it. I always understood and agreed with the decision to never release it in home video format, but I don't have an issue with it being made available to those who want to watch it on the network. They don't need to promote it, it can just be there.
What happened, happened. We show footage from terrible tragedies all around the world on a regular basis. This is really no different. Nothing graphic was ever shown, and it's a very important piece of wrestling history.
For what it's worth, I, too, was always very surprised we never had a member that was there that night, or at least had one that came forward and talked about it.
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Post by RybackV1 on Feb 5, 2014 12:57:14 GMT -5
It's not like they're revealing footage of the fall guys. Relax
It is a very uncomfortable PPV to watch though. You can tell all of the workers are just not there mentally. Going through the motions and whatnot
What I'm most worried about is how visible that blood spot where owen landed will be on HD. Even if not HD the only place most of us have likely seen the event is YouTube. Not great quality. These events will obviously be in decent quality.
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Post by J12 on Feb 5, 2014 13:36:29 GMT -5
It's not like they're revealing footage of the fall guys. Relax It is a very uncomfortable PPV to watch though. You can tell all of the workers are just not there mentally. Going through the motions and whatnot What I'm most worried about is how visible that blood spot where owen landed will be on HD. Even if not HD the only place most of us have likely seen the event is YouTube. Not great quality. These events will obviously be in decent quality. No more visible than it would have been during the initial broadcast. WWE wasn't shooting in HD until 2008. It will just be the standard definition broadcast footage with WWE's black bars of choice on the left and right. That is, if they go they route. They sent out a survey to the Fan Council awhile back to determine how we'd like to see SD content (presumably for the network.) Some examples had the black bars, others were stretched, others were cropped, etc. I really hope they stick with the original 4:3 aspect ratio with the black bars.
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Post by RybackV1 on Feb 5, 2014 13:39:26 GMT -5
It's not like they're revealing footage of the fall guys. Relax It is a very uncomfortable PPV to watch though. You can tell all of the workers are just not there mentally. Going through the motions and whatnot What I'm most worried about is how visible that blood spot where owen landed will be on HD. Even if not HD the only place most of us have likely seen the event is YouTube. Not great quality. These events will obviously be in decent quality. No more visible than it would have been during the initial broadcast. WWE wasn't shooting in HD until 2008. It will just be the standard definition broadcast footage with WWE's black bars of choice on the left and right. That is, if they go they route. They sent out a survey to the Fan Council awhile back to determine how we'd like to see SD content (presumably for the network.) Some examples had the black bars, others were stretched, others were cropped, etc. I really hope they stick with the original 4:3 aspect ratio with the black bars. Yeah HD wasn't really the right choice of word. But these days all that old footage looks great somehow. I'm sure they are able to remaster all of that old stuff. Besides, how many of us watched that PPV live? And if we did we certainly aren't able to remember many specifics. Mostly due to the complete initial shock of the tragedy .
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Post by J12 on Feb 5, 2014 13:47:05 GMT -5
No more visible than it would have been during the initial broadcast. WWE wasn't shooting in HD until 2008. It will just be the standard definition broadcast footage with WWE's black bars of choice on the left and right. That is, if they go they route. They sent out a survey to the Fan Council awhile back to determine how we'd like to see SD content (presumably for the network.) Some examples had the black bars, others were stretched, others were cropped, etc. I really hope they stick with the original 4:3 aspect ratio with the black bars. Yeah HD wasn't really the right choice of word. But these days all that old footage looks great somehow. I'm sure they are able to remaster all of that old stuff. Besides, how many of us watched that PPV live? And if we did we certainly aren't able to remember many specifics. Mostly due to the complete initial shock of the tragedy . I've only seen bits and pieces of the show over the years, so yeah, I don't remember how visible or not visible anything was. The only thing I can even recall vividly is JR's announcement. As far as beefing up the quality of the older footage, it mostly just has to do with having access to the master broadcast footage. I don't think they're really doing much of anything with footage from the 90s, other than pulling it from their masters, which will usually look considerably better than what we initially would have seen on Pay-Per-View. Wouldn't they have replaced the canvas, though? I guess I just don't remember, but seeing as that's so commonplace nowadays, you'd think it would have been the first thing they'd do, not only for aesthetic purposes, but sanitary as well. Then again, now that I think about it, I guess blood spots weren't all that uncommon during the Attitude Era.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 14:20:14 GMT -5
This is when Owen Hart died. It's never aired or been on dvd. I don't think it should be either. I have the VHS I recorded that night. I've never rewatched it. I think it's macabre.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 14:23:16 GMT -5
Ive seen the ppv. They will cut out that whole part all in all. Thats the only thing that would make sense about this situation. That's impossible. The entire card after Owen's death changes the ambiance of the event. Also, there are several mentions of Owen's death after it occurs. The only way to truly remove any reference is to cut Owen's segments and to remove commentary.
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Post by June on Feb 5, 2014 14:25:33 GMT -5
There will be no mention of Owen, or the Blue Blazer during this presentation.
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Post by sean™ on Feb 5, 2014 17:44:16 GMT -5
I think we crossed this bridge when they brought up Owen in the 50 Years of WWE. They most likely show the promo before or JR's announcement.
And as someone who was in the audience that night, the PPV was enjoyable outside the obvious. Plus an Undertaker title win was something I never thought I'd see.
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Post by RybackV1 on Feb 5, 2014 17:53:09 GMT -5
I think we crossed this bridge when they brought up Owen in the 50 Years of WWE. They most likely show the promo before or JR's announcement. And as someone who was in the audience that night, the PPV was enjoyable outside the obvious. Plus an Undertaker title win was something I never thought I'd see. You didn't actually witness the fall did you? I would assume everyone was looking at the tron at the time.
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Post by sean™ on Feb 5, 2014 18:03:26 GMT -5
I think we crossed this bridge when they brought up Owen in the 50 Years of WWE. They most likely show the promo before or JR's announcement. And as someone who was in the audience that night, the PPV was enjoyable outside the obvious. Plus an Undertaker title win was something I never thought I'd see. You didn't actually witness the fall did you? I would assume everyone was looking at the tron at the time. There was no tron at the event, just the arena screens. So yes, unfortunately, I did.
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Post by RybackV1 on Feb 5, 2014 18:07:45 GMT -5
You didn't actually witness the fall did you? I would assume everyone was looking at the tron at the time. There was no tron at the event, just the arena screens. So yes, unfortunately, I did. Damn man. That must've been traumatizing. Was the general reaction that it was a stunt? Or did the live crowd seem to immediately realize something went wrong?
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Feb 5, 2014 18:13:40 GMT -5
I'd assume right after the first match, it'll cut to Jeff Jarrett coming to the ring. No Blue Blazer promo, no Owen in the ring, no crowd shot, no teary eyed Jarrett backstage promo. Then cut JR's announcement later in the show and it *should* be okay to air
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Post by DestroyerOfNations on Feb 5, 2014 18:16:58 GMT -5
I don't mind it. The card wasn't bad and Triple H is in a pretty cool one-off attire if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure anyone who's going to watch it has already seen the incident. It was a horrible tragedy but WWE needs to stop pretending that it, along with other things, never happened.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 21:15:44 GMT -5
Other than Owen's death, I remember it being a decent PPV. I am wondering if there would be anyway to record from the WWE network using a DVD recorder.
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Post by Brad on Feb 5, 2014 21:21:11 GMT -5
i dont get what the issue is....that was almost 15 YEARS AGO i think its time to let it go. yes it was tragic, yes it was sad. however EVERY year on 9/11 the news sites have no problems showing planes flying into buildings, im sure at the 1 year anniversary of the boston bombing this year the same clip will be shown over and over and over and over and over and over again. seems pretty pathetic that the WWE won't acknowledge a VERY big event in their history. especially considering they've said "every single PPV ever produced" it's not like there is ACTUAL footage of Owen falling. We'll see the PPV as it aired, with a viewer discretion warning at the beginning. As it aired, the match was going to start and they cut to the commentators. Just like any other real event that has happened. Very fair point
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Post by Kanenite on Feb 5, 2014 21:32:23 GMT -5
It's not like they're revealing footage of the fall guys. Relax It is a very uncomfortable PPV to watch though. You can tell all of the workers are just not there mentally. Going through the motions and whatnot What I'm most worried about is how visible that blood spot where owen landed will be on HD. Even if not HD the only place most of us have likely seen the event is YouTube. Not great quality. These events will obviously be in decent quality. No more visible than it would have been during the initial broadcast. WWE wasn't shooting in HD until 2008. It will just be the standard definition broadcast footage with WWE's black bars of choice on the left and right. That is, if they go they route. They sent out a survey to the Fan Council awhile back to determine how we'd like to see SD content (presumably for the network.) Some examples had the black bars, others were stretched, others were cropped, etc. I really hope they stick with the original 4:3 aspect ratio with the black bars. I really hope they wouldn't do something stupid like stretch the 4:3 SD Footage. It would ruin all the old stuff for me unless I could fix it on my TV (which would be a major hassle). Keep it the way it was with bars on the side please WWE.
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Post by J12 on Feb 5, 2014 22:18:55 GMT -5
No more visible than it would have been during the initial broadcast. WWE wasn't shooting in HD until 2008. It will just be the standard definition broadcast footage with WWE's black bars of choice on the left and right. That is, if they go they route. They sent out a survey to the Fan Council awhile back to determine how we'd like to see SD content (presumably for the network.) Some examples had the black bars, others were stretched, others were cropped, etc. I really hope they stick with the original 4:3 aspect ratio with the black bars. I really hope they wouldn't do something stupid like stretch the 4:3 SD Footage. It would ruin all the old stuff for me unless I could fix it on my TV (which would be a major hassle). Keep it the way it was with bars on the side please WWE. It looked horrible. I was shocked they even asked. Then again, I know plenty of people that buy HDTVs, watch SD broadcast television, and stretch the picture to make it "fullscreen" and don't know the difference.
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Post by Kanenite on Feb 5, 2014 22:53:40 GMT -5
I really hope they wouldn't do something stupid like stretch the 4:3 SD Footage. It would ruin all the old stuff for me unless I could fix it on my TV (which would be a major hassle). Keep it the way it was with bars on the side please WWE. It looked horrible. I was shocked they even asked. Then again, I know plenty of people that buy HDTVs, watch SD broadcast television, and stretch the picture to make it "fullscreen" and don't know the difference. Ugh one of my pet-peeves right there. Ticks me off when I go places and people do that lol.
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