y2josh
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Post by y2josh on Apr 7, 2014 9:35:11 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks T's mother should've ended The Streak? She was OVER.
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Post by Dan on Apr 7, 2014 9:46:26 GMT -5
The thing is, had they booked Brock Lesnar properly since his Return I wouldn't be against it. He had so much unfinished business and the buzz around his Return was like nothing I'd seen before. He should of beaten Triple H at Summerslam, then beaten John Cena at Wrestlemania 29. Beaten CM Punk at Summerslam then beaten Undertaker at Wrestlemania XXX, and then he could possibly of been up there with Austin, Rock, Cena as a true megastar and one of the best ever.
Instead, they dropped the ball completely and had him lose to Cena within a month of him returning, and then lost at Wrestlemania to Triple H, which makes the whole thing revolving him ending the Streak seem so pointless and wasted.
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Post by 0,Y on Apr 7, 2014 9:52:29 GMT -5
It's a shame really.
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Post by sean™ on Apr 7, 2014 9:55:48 GMT -5
Can I just say that I went back and re-watched the match last night, and I honestly feel like the announcers are what made the match seem so blah. I rather enjoyed it the first time, and much more the second time. There's a lot more going on in the match, regarding taking out Undertaker's "base" than some give credit.
Just my two cents. I'm not upset about the streak ending, and quite frankly, I'm happy it was Lesnar. It needed to be a "Beast" vs. just a man.
That being said, I am still upset about Summerslam 1998. I mean....Stone Cold hits the most obvious low blow right in front of the ref before he hits the Stunner. Cheating SOB. I'd rather be upset about that.
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Post by Hunter393 on Apr 7, 2014 10:00:47 GMT -5
Credit WrestlingAttitude.com
There was a huge "bullshit" chant that started up after Brock Lesnar defeated The Undertaker at WrestleMania XXX last night after everyone realized what happened. It wasn't until the 21-1 graphic came up that everyone realized The Streak was over. The chant quieted down and most of the crowd just sat there stunned. Taker did get the standing ovation and a "thank you Taker" chant from most but some did boo while this was going on. Multiple sources report that fans were seen leaving and several were seen crying. Taker's loss really brought the live crowd down a notch and they didn't seem to get back into things until well into the main event.
We noted earlier today that Taker was taken to a local hospital last night for fear of a concussion and a neck injury. We also noted that Taker losing was the original plan. This was kept from just about everyone but betting odds started to change shortly before the show began.
It's said that this was indeed The Undertaker's decision. We noted before that back in 2010, Taker wanted Lesnar to be the one to end The Streak. This is not confirmed yet but the impression was given backstage that Taker is done. No word yet on how this changes a potential match with Sting at WrestleMania 31.
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Post by aknees2faces4lifej on Apr 7, 2014 10:29:26 GMT -5
And that's why CM Punk walked out.
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Post by sean™ on Apr 7, 2014 11:14:19 GMT -5
And that's why CM Punk walked out. CM Punk walked out because someone else beat the streak? I'm sorry, I'm confused. People act like CM Punk has been "done wrong" because he didn't beat the streak, or didn't Main Event a Wrestlemania. I mean, it's not like he was pushed to the moon, was given the longest title reign in the last couple of decades, provided proceeds from the ridiculous amounts of Punk merchandise that was created for him, his own DVD documentary, blah blah blah.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 7, 2014 11:19:34 GMT -5
And that's why CM Punk walked out. CM Punk walked out because someone else beat the streak? I'm sorry, I'm confused. People act like CM Punk has been "done wrong" because he didn't beat the streak, or didn't Main Event a Wrestlemania. I mean, it's not like he was pushed to the moon, was given the longest title reign in the last couple of decades, provided proceeds from the ridiculous amounts of Punk merchandise that was created for him, his own DVD documentary, blah blah blah. I wouldn't say he was done totally wrong. He did get great things, like the long title reign however, he had to drop the belt to a part-timer so they could do Cena/Rock again. Then he challenged the Streak which is fine and he made the best of the feud. He left, came back, had an amazing match with Brock Lesnar, the best since Brock came back, and then was stuck with Ryback and Curtis Axel. Punk did a lot and was given a lot, he left because he wants to be the absolute number one guy in the company and he's never going to be that. Do I respect that he doesn't want to settle for less than being number one? Yes. Do I respect how he just up and left? Not really. To keep this on topic, I think what the knees2faces was saying was that part-timers coming in and getting main event spots, winning the belt and, in last night's case, ending the streak is part of what Punk was upset about.
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Post by Chip on Apr 7, 2014 11:26:54 GMT -5
21 years WASTED on Bork Lazer
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Post by sean™ on Apr 7, 2014 11:45:00 GMT -5
CM Punk walked out because someone else beat the streak? I'm sorry, I'm confused. People act like CM Punk has been "done wrong" because he didn't beat the streak, or didn't Main Event a Wrestlemania. I mean, it's not like he was pushed to the moon, was given the longest title reign in the last couple of decades, provided proceeds from the ridiculous amounts of Punk merchandise that was created for him, his own DVD documentary, blah blah blah. I wouldn't say he was done totally wrong. He did get great things, like the long title reign however, he had to drop the belt to a part-timer so they could do Cena/Rock again. Then he challenged the Streak which is fine and he made the best of the feud. He left, came back, had an amazing match with Brock Lesnar, the best since Brock came back, and then was stuck with Ryback and Curtis Axel. Punk did a lot and was given a lot, he left because he wants to be the absolute number one guy in the company and he's never going to be that. Do I respect that he doesn't want to settle for less than being number one? Yes. Do I respect how he just up and left? Not really. To keep this on topic, I think what the knees2faces was saying was that part-timers coming in and getting main event spots, winning the belt and, in last night's case, ending the streak is part of what Punk was upset about. Fair points. I decided to hold my opinions of why Punk did what he did a while ago, as it's pointless to debate what only one man knows. It just irks me at times when people act like Punk gets treated like Ryder or something. Cena may be pushed like the No. 1 Guy, but if the amount of fans who enjoy Punk and think he is the No. 1 guy in the company still exist, why does it matter? Cena may sell more shirts and hats, but Punk is just as popular even while he's gone. So why not wrestle for the people who truly value you, vs. the people who pay you? Just my opinion, of course. I'd make the argument that Lesnar had more to lose from losing to the Undertaker, than anyone one superstar had to gain. I'm sure very few will agree with me, if any, but Lesnar is 3-0-1 against Undertaker in PPV matches, and the only main to beat him in a HIAC without interference of any kind. And if he loses to Undertaker, he's just another notch in a belt. There's no point to the match, there's nothing to go off of. Nothing to move forward with besides the status quo. Lesnar's not the one who's heading out to pasture. He's here to stay, and will be for the next few years. And regardless if people like it or not, Brock will be a HOF one day. Deservingly so. The wrestling world got flipped upside down last night, in easily one of the most "real" moments in history. A moment very few actually saw coming, and a moment that will be talked about for years to come. You don't get moments like that very often, especially in the digital age of spoilers and leaks and social media. Things spread like wildfire, and for the first time in decades, millions of people were literally stunned by one thing.
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Post by aknees2faces4lifej on Apr 7, 2014 11:48:35 GMT -5
CM Punk walked out because someone else beat the streak? I'm sorry, I'm confused. People act like CM Punk has been "done wrong" because he didn't beat the streak, or didn't Main Event a Wrestlemania. I mean, it's not like he was pushed to the moon, was given the longest title reign in the last couple of decades, provided proceeds from the ridiculous amounts of Punk merchandise that was created for him, his own DVD documentary, blah blah blah. I wouldn't say he was done totally wrong. He did get great things, like the long title reign however, he had to drop the belt to a part-timer so they could do Cena/Rock again. Then he challenged the Streak which is fine and he made the best of the feud. He left, came back, had an amazing match with Brock Lesnar, the best since Brock came back, and then was stuck with Ryback and Curtis Axel. Punk did a lot and was given a lot, he left because he wants to be the absolute number one guy in the company and he's never going to be that. Do I respect that he doesn't want to settle for less than being number one? Yes. Do I respect how he just up and left? Not really. To keep this on topic, I think what the knees2faces was saying was that part-timers coming in and getting main event spots, winning the belt and, in last night's case, ending the streak is part of what Punk was upset about. YepYepYep
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 7, 2014 12:34:23 GMT -5
The thing is, had they booked Brock Lesnar properly since his Return I wouldn't be against it. He had so much unfinished business and the buzz around his Return was like nothing I'd seen before. He should of beaten Triple H at Summerslam, then beaten John Cena at Wrestlemania 29. Beaten CM Punk at Summerslam then beaten Undertaker at Wrestlemania XXX, and then he could possibly of been up there with Austin, Rock, Cena as a true megastar and one of the best ever. Instead, they dropped the ball completely and had him lose to Cena within a month of him returning, and then lost at Wrestlemania to Triple H, which makes the whole thing revolving him ending the Streak seem so pointless and wasted. Totally agree.
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Post by Nash on Apr 7, 2014 12:40:45 GMT -5
Like I said in an other thread, I was completely shocked like everyone else. I felt speechless and was completely zoned out until the main event started. It didn't feel right, time felt like it was standing still...just a surreal moment. I still am in disbelief honestly
But I can't understand those saying they would have rather seen Wyatt win or another up and comer. For someone like him, they would have never been able to top that feat in their career, no matter what they do. It's too much to live up to especially in such a young career.
I was always a proponent of Cena beating it, but you could honestly make the same argument for him. How can anyone ever top beating the streak? You can't.
Thats why (even though I'm not a fan of it ending) if it had to end, a guy like Lesnar doing it is most beneficial overall. There's no constant pressure on him since he's only part time which makes it easier for him to be away from the (what I'm sure will be) negative reaction he faces.
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Post by The Yes Man on Apr 7, 2014 12:43:14 GMT -5
21 years WASTED on Bork Lazer Should have been Dragon Ryan.
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Post by Jamal on Apr 7, 2014 12:44:03 GMT -5
I loved it. It's like WWE's version of the red wedding. The only complaint I have is Lesnar should never have lost to HHH or Cena.
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Post by J12 on Apr 7, 2014 12:44:04 GMT -5
In the end, as many others have suggested, I just wish there had been more to it.
The feud itself was so monotonous and unoriginal. Lesnar has been made to look rather weak since coming back. He's consistently backed down from challenges (Lesnar's character should fear no man), acted like a generic, cowardly heel, and been made to look very, very beatable.
There's so much more that could have been done with the Taker/Lesnar feud going into Wrestlemania. Why wasn't it ever brought up that The Undertaker has never beaten Brock Lesnar? Why wasn't there more mind games? The plan, obviously, was to end the streak all along, so why wasn't there more fanfare surrounding the match?
This, to me, seemed like Taker's least important Mania match in years. Even Punk last year seemed more bitter and personal (and I personally hated that feud.) There was just nothing to this story with Lesnar.
It takes nothing away from the moment, but it undoubtedly could have been bigger.
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Post by Chip on Apr 7, 2014 12:44:11 GMT -5
The thing is, had they booked Brock Lesnar properly since his Return I wouldn't be against it. He had so much unfinished business and the buzz around his Return was like nothing I'd seen before. He should of beaten Triple H at Summerslam, then beaten John Cena at Wrestlemania 29. Beaten CM Punk at Summerslam then beaten Undertaker at Wrestlemania XXX, and then he could possibly of been up there with Austin, Rock, Cena as a true megastar and one of the best ever. Instead, they dropped the ball completely and had him lose to Cena within a month of him returning, and then lost at Wrestlemania to Triple H, which makes the whole thing revolving him ending the Streak seem so pointless and wasted. geez...stop being so full of win
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Post by sean™ on Apr 7, 2014 12:57:24 GMT -5
On a more personal note, between the Streak and Favre's 09 Run with the Vikings, New Orleans is apparently where things I like go to die.
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Post by punksnotdead on Apr 7, 2014 13:17:33 GMT -5
I have no problem with The Streak ending. Brock just wouldn't have been my first pick, or on my radar at all really. He's not a bad pick because he can handle the heat and then he'll be gone. I guess it's a matter of what they do now. I like Brock, but it's still a "really" kind of deal for me.
Cena vs Taker is off the table now, which sucks. Even if it happens it won't have the impact it could of had. I would have liked to see a guy benefit from ending The Streak, especially knowing now that the guy who did end it won't really gain anything additional from it longterm. People already know Brock's a beast.
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Post by Chief on Apr 7, 2014 13:20:50 GMT -5
THE STREAK ENDED BECAUSE TAKER IS OLD AND PROB WONT WRESTLE AGAIN.
God damn people. More then likely it's his choice to go out like this.
Give it up on the Sting and Cena crapalready.
Wrestling Observer even reported that when Brock was resigned Taker wanted him to be the one to break the streak because Taker respects Brock as a legitimate bad ass and tough guy.
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