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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 12:00:43 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know why they changed actress for Rachel between Begins and Dark Knight? It kinda breaks the illusion of a trilogy.
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Post by Hem-Ridge on May 14, 2017 12:15:25 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know why they changed actress for Rachel between Begins and Dark Knight? It kinda breaks the illusion of a trilogy. Yeah I was confused with that too. I always joked that Tom Cruise locked her up after she got married (her film and TV career definitely stalled after getting married to him). I would've been more sad if she died in the film, as compared to Maggie Gyllenhal (Not sure how to spell it) as I never really cared for her.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 14, 2017 14:30:29 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know why they changed actress for Rachel between Begins and Dark Knight? It kinda breaks the illusion of a trilogy. Holmes didn't want to be in the sequel and asked to be replaced. I think she said it was because of other projects at the time. Seems like it had a lot to do with her relationship with Cruise, but that's totally speculation on my part.
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Post by cordless2016 on May 14, 2017 16:27:11 GMT -5
There were reports at the time that her relationship with Cruise was a big reason for her turning down the sequel. No concrete evidence but with Cruise past his popularity "peak" and a well documented ego, I'm sure his wife being in a highly successful movie, and about to be in a much big one, didn't sit well with him.
I always perfered Holmes to Gyllenhal. People crap on Katie, but I felt she actually tried while Maggie seemed to phone it in for a lot of her scenes. I feel she ruined the scene when the Joker crashes Bruce's party for Dent by basically standing there motionless for the whole thing. She should have been terrified with him there.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 16:28:29 GMT -5
Question: Does anyone know why they changed actress for Rachel between Begins and Dark Knight? It kinda breaks the illusion of a trilogy. Holmes didn't want to be in the sequel and asked to be replaced. I think she said it was because of other projects at the time. Seems like it had a lot to do with her relationship with Cruise, but that's totally speculation on my part. Seems like a weird choice to even take the role to begin with then? Could've, probably should have just used Maggie from the start.
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Post by cordless2016 on May 14, 2017 18:20:24 GMT -5
Holmes didn't want to be in the sequel and asked to be replaced. I think she said it was because of other projects at the time. Seems like it had a lot to do with her relationship with Cruise, but that's totally speculation on my part. Seems like a weird choice to even take the role to begin with then? Could've, probably should have just used Maggie from the start. This was the first Batman film since B&R, and also before the comic book movie boom. I doubt anyone knew that Batman Begins would completely change the landscape of comic book movies.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 14, 2017 18:29:58 GMT -5
Katie Holmes was at least attractive. Maggie Gyllenhal looked like Rachel aged by 20 years. Bruce should have just let Dent have her. If she didnt die in TDK then Betty White would have played her in TDKR
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Post by JokerFC on May 15, 2017 5:17:45 GMT -5
At the time there were a lot of rumors that WB & Nolan were furious with Holmes because all she could talk about was War Of The Worlds while she was supposed to be promoting Begins. Lots of scuttlebutt suggested Nolan didn't want her in the sequel.
Hard to know for sure.....
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 6:41:07 GMT -5
At the time there were a lot of rumors that WB & Nolan were furious with Holmes because all she could talk about was War Of The Worlds while she was supposed to be promoting Begins. Lots of scuttlebutt suggested Nolan didn't want her in the sequel. Hard to know for sure..... If that's the case, I don't really blame Nolan or WB. That's just a crapty thing to do. Don't bite the hand that feeds you and all that.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 6:44:24 GMT -5
I have been binging Gotham, almost caught up, I'm on Season 3, Episode 15. And you know what the funniest thing has been yet? How Gotham could make a Joker 100 times more appealing than Leto's Joker.
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Post by Word™ on May 15, 2017 16:35:50 GMT -5
At the time there were a lot of rumors that WB & Nolan were furious with Holmes because all she could talk about was War Of The Worlds while she was supposed to be promoting Begins. Lots of scuttlebutt suggested Nolan didn't want her in the sequel. Hard to know for sure..... That's the first I heard of this.. I remember hearing that she hated being in a comic book film and literally wanted nothing to do with the franchise.. WHAT A GIANT MISTAKE THAT WAS! Could you imagine being so full of yourself that you missed out on starring in one of the best movies to come out in the last 30 years? He career might not be dead right now.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 15, 2017 16:50:49 GMT -5
In an interview Charlie Hunnam was asked about playing Green Arrow/Oliver Queen....his response was "DC, call me."
Yes, please and thank you!
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Post by IRS on May 15, 2017 16:55:24 GMT -5
In an interview Charlie Hunnam was asked about playing Green Arrow/Oliver Queen....his response was "DC, call me." Yes, please and thank you! Yes, DC - call him.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 16:57:06 GMT -5
At the time there were a lot of rumors that WB & Nolan were furious with Holmes because all she could talk about was War Of The Worlds while she was supposed to be promoting Begins. Lots of scuttlebutt suggested Nolan didn't want her in the sequel. Hard to know for sure..... That's the first I heard of this.. I remember hearing that she hated being in a comic book film and literally wanted nothing to do with the franchise.. WHAT A GIANT MISTAKE THAT WAS! Could you imagine being so full of yourself that you missed out on starring in one of the best movies to come out in the last 30 years? He career might not be dead right now. Only the last 30 years? Many lists I have seen has The Dark Knight as one of the top 15 movies of all time. Even top 5 on some of those.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 16:57:53 GMT -5
What a great homage to Batman Returns with *that* scene on Gotham S3E17. I always thought it was abit silly and cheesy, but hey, it caught me by surprise I'll give them that.
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Post by Word™ on May 15, 2017 23:56:59 GMT -5
That's the first I heard of this.. I remember hearing that she hated being in a comic book film and literally wanted nothing to do with the franchise.. WHAT A GIANT MISTAKE THAT WAS! Could you imagine being so full of yourself that you missed out on starring in one of the best movies to come out in the last 30 years? He career might not be dead right now. Only the last 30 years? Many lists I have seen has The Dark Knight as one of the top 15 movies of all time. Even top 5 on some of those. I consider The Dark Knight one of the greatest films of all time as well.. I was trying not to be over the top.. People have a hard time taking your statement serious when you say things like "BEST OF ALL TIME". So 30 years!
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Post by Mox on May 16, 2017 14:33:33 GMT -5
Josh Gad as the Penguin?
Yay or Nay?
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Post by JokerFC on May 16, 2017 18:32:16 GMT -5
In an interview Charlie Hunnam was asked about playing Green Arrow/Oliver Queen....his response was "DC, call me." Yes, please and thank you! Id love to see that too. Sadly I don't think the movie folk have any interest in the character.......pity.
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Post by IRS on May 16, 2017 18:34:48 GMT -5
In an interview Charlie Hunnam was asked about playing Green Arrow/Oliver Queen....his response was "DC, call me." Yes, please and thank you! Id love to see that too. Sadly I don't think the movie folk have any interest in the character.......pity. It amazes me that they would rather have ing Cyborg as part of JL over Green Arrow. Sigh.
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Post by JokerFC on May 16, 2017 18:47:12 GMT -5
Id love to see that too. Sadly I don't think the movie folk have any interest in the character.......pity. It amazes me that they would rather have ing Cyborg as part of JL over Green Arrow. Sigh. or Green Lantern Martian Manhunter Hawkman Hawkgirl The Atom Firestorm Black Canary Unfortunately the presence of these characters on TV shows(GL aside) means that the movie division has zero interest in them. Cyborg is there to fulfil WBs need for diversity.....simple as. I personally think they should have went another way with this but it is what it is at this stage.
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