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Post by LtD73 on Mar 27, 2016 10:47:56 GMT -5
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Post by johnnyb on Mar 27, 2016 12:09:30 GMT -5
Yup... as bad as the reviews have been, that's the biggest worldwide opening weekend WB has ever had, and Justice League is starting production in a little over two weeks. Any concerns about this being a flop are gone.
Rumors now have WB trying to fast track the Ben Affleck solo Batman movie.
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Post by LtD73 on Mar 27, 2016 12:51:54 GMT -5
Yup... as bad as the reviews have been, that's the biggest worldwide opening weekend WB has ever had, and Justice League is starting production in a little over two weeks. Any concerns about this being a flop are gone. Rumors now have WB trying to fast track the Ben Affleck solo Batman movie. I've seen a lot of people comparing Afflecks Batman to the Arkham Asylum etc Batman, id love a Afflecks Arkham Asylum movie, a lot of the villains are there in Suicide Squad, depending how that ends it could easily lead into one, just get rid of the roided Joker from the ending
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 13:02:58 GMT -5
Yup... as bad as the reviews have been, that's the biggest worldwide opening weekend WB has ever had, and Justice League is starting production in a little over two weeks. Any concerns about this being a flop are gone. Rumors now have WB trying to fast track the Ben Affleck solo Batman movie. I've seen a lot of people comparing Afflecks Batman to the Arkham Asylum etc Batman, id love a Afflecks Arkham Asylum movie, a lot of the villains are there in Suicide Squad, depending how that ends it could easily lead into one, just get rid of the roided Joker from the ending I loathe the ending to the original AA for that reason alone. Roided Joker just wasn't fun.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 27, 2016 13:38:25 GMT -5
The thing is with Batfleck, they aged him in BvS, so they could always do a younger version and make it a prequel. They could show how he caught a lot of the people in SS. They could do the death of Robin if they wanted. The possibilities are almost endless.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 13:51:34 GMT -5
The thing is with Batfleck, they aged him in BvS, so they could always do a younger version and make it a prequel. They could show how he caught a lot of the people in SS. They could do the death of Robin if they wanted. The possibilities are almost endless. Wasn't he in his mid forties here? They could totally do one set ten years prior and have it be a pseudo prequel to SS like you said.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 27, 2016 14:23:51 GMT -5
The thing is with Batfleck, they aged him in BvS, so they could always do a younger version and make it a prequel. They could show how he caught a lot of the people in SS. They could do the death of Robin if they wanted. The possibilities are almost endless. Wasn't he in his mid forties here? They could totally do one set ten years prior and have it be a pseudo prequel to SS like you said. That sounds about right. Get rid of the grey's on the side of his head and they could do at least ten years prior if they want to. Same with Joker, get rid of some of the tattoos and he could pass for an earlier version as well.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Mar 27, 2016 14:30:19 GMT -5
I personally like the idea of running with this aged Batman; I wanna see some Nightwing, his inevitable solo film against Joker, maybe bring in Damien Wayne. I like that there's this backstory already there for Batman, we've never really had a Batman film series where there's been enough time gone on his side to establish any of these things.
I can see Jena Malone being a big deal too, and since I love her, I wanna see as much of her as possible in future flicks.
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Post by ricflair4ever on Mar 27, 2016 16:31:39 GMT -5
I'm glad this thing has been able to navigate the waters of bad publicity and find its way to success. I don't think it was a masterpiece, and i had my gripes with some of it (Lex Eisenberg) but overall i enjoyed the movie and thought it was much better than people are giving it credit to be. I also love the fact that BatFleck is giving us a more aged and battle tested Batman than any other cinematic version. The Bat-verse is already a "lived in" set up place waiting to be explored, as opposed to us waiting to originate everything. There are tweaks and improvements to be made concerning story flow going forward. Those do need to be addressed with the Justice League movie. But all around I'm happy with the foundation BvS has set for the DCEU to build upon.
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Post by Manning Of Steel on Mar 27, 2016 18:30:00 GMT -5
I went into this movie with extremely low expectations. I wasn't feeling the hype from the get go and after reading the bad reviews, I was even less thrilled to go see it, yet the Bat fan inside of me felt that it was a must to go see it on opening weekend. As soon as the movie started with the opening scene of Thomas and Martha Wayne getting murdered, I was rolling my eyes thinking how many times can we see this. But as the movie progressed, it made perfect sense why they included it. I honestly loved the film, and everything about it. My one in only gripe was Jeremy Irons as Alfred. He just didn't seem very Alfred-like to me, especially after how good of an Alfred, Michael Caine played in the Nolanverse. Either way, I'm stoked for whats to come of these movies and I'm instantly more interested in this universe than anything Marvel has put out(besides X-Men).
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 27, 2016 19:14:44 GMT -5
^ That's one of the first comments I've seen that didn't like Irons. Most reviews liked him and I thought he was the best live action Alfred we've gotten yet.
I couldn't stand Michael Caine or his British humor. I never bought him as someone who assisted Bruce with his gadgets and crime fighting.
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Post by Mark Martin on Mar 27, 2016 19:19:32 GMT -5
I thought Irons was a great Alfred. Not a completely traditional take on the character but great nonetheless.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 19:36:01 GMT -5
Irons is great, and he did great, but it didn't feel like Alfred. When I think Alfred, I think old weak man. Irons, is only 24 years older than Affleck. The dynamic was just off to me.
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Post by ohernan6 on Mar 27, 2016 19:48:36 GMT -5
Didn't Alfred raise Bruce? Irons looked like he was about 8 years older than Affleck!
I walked away from that movie the same exact way I walked away from Man of Steel — it wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. Lot's of corniness left and right.
I also don't think Affleck brought anything new to the character that Bale already didn't do, other than better fight choreography. But that credit goes to the direction, not actor.
And Doomsday looked stupid af.
These superhero movies need to quit acting like they all have to be this 2+ hour epic movie. There was so much filler in this movie...
I think the positives start with Gal Gaddot... she did a way better job than I expected. Also, the actual Superman vs. Batman fight was thought out really well... even though it didn't really need to happen if Superman just explained his mission in one sentence.
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Post by Word™ on Mar 27, 2016 20:17:14 GMT -5
^ That's one of the first comments I've seen that didn't like Irons. Most reviews liked him and I thought he was the best live action Alfred we've gotten yet. I couldn't stand Michael Caine or his British humor. I never bought him as someone who assisted Bruce with his gadgets and crime fighting. I think everyone is agreeing that Jeremy Irons was great, but just didn't feel like Alfred.. Playing that character immediately after Michael Caine did is a pretty tall task, even for Jeremy Irons. But I think the main gripe is that Iron's Alfred wasn't the father figure he usually is towards Bruce Wayne in this version.. He's just kinda there to help him with his toys and missions, and doesn't really help guide Bruce's moral compass in any direction.. Which is what Alfred does.
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 28, 2016 0:41:00 GMT -5
Really pleased the movie is doing well at the Box Office... seems audiences are liking it a lot more than critics (and audiences are the ones it was made for, after all). It's a shame though - this could have been a GREAT movie, instead of an OK one... most people agree that Affleck's Batman and Gadot's Wonder Woman are great - and the actual Batman/Superman fight is awesome. It's just that Eisenberg's Luthor and the whole Doomsday thing/ending didn't work (for me) - and the pacing seemed all over the place. I'm looking forward to the Ultimate Cut on Blu-ray though... it should be interesting to see if it makes it a better movie, or just a longer and more drawn-out one. If I was re-cutting it, I think rather than adding to it, I'd actually shave about 30-40 minutes off the running time (mainly the first hour and a half), cut as many of Eisenberg's scenes as possible (...sorry Jesse!) and alter the Doomsday fight - so we didn't get that ending.
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Post by Word™ on Mar 28, 2016 3:12:13 GMT -5
Just got in a couple hours ago from seeing 'Batman v. Superman'.
I want to start out by saying I don't ever need or want to see how Bruce Wayne loses his parents ever again.. If I have to watch them get gunned down in the street one more time, I might throw trash at the screen I'm watching it on at that time.
I am very aware of the reviews. I'm aware of everyone's individual opinion, and I'd just like to say that I WANTED to like this movie.. I went in knowing all of this stuff with a clear and level head to form my own opinion. Just like Man of Steel though, I WANT these movies to be good and I WANT them to succeed.. I want to remember these movies 15-20 years from now just like I'll remember the Nolan Trilogy.
With all of this being said, this movie does fail fantastically. It is a beautiful mess. I say beautiful mess because in all honestly, Zack Snyder might be one of the most skilled creative visionary directors of his generation.. He can get good shots (when he wants) and he can paint amazingly stylized moments.. But this compliment is where Zack Snyder's skill begins and ends.. He has a fundamental problem as a director.. He can not, absolutely can not form a proper plot and he fails to understand characterization.. And it makes it even harder when the writing is also a giant mess.
This movie is going to make a billion dollars in spite of him.. And that's sad because it will guarantee that he isn't gonna go anywhere.. This universe could be beautiful and could be something very special yet it's going to be forgettable because he is the one driving the bus.
I found good in it, there were moments I thought were good and there was one particular moment I thought was great. But overall, this was another giant letdown from Zack Snyder.
And that disappoints me a great deal.
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Post by Manning Of Steel on Mar 28, 2016 8:02:59 GMT -5
^ That's one of the first comments I've seen that didn't like Irons. Most reviews liked him and I thought he was the best live action Alfred we've gotten yet. I couldn't stand Michael Caine or his British humor. I never bought him as someone who assisted Bruce with his gadgets and crime fighting. Irons played his part well, but he just didn't have the look of Alfred to me. He seemed a bit too young, especially for what was supposed to be an older Bruce. I'm not sure why everyone hates the Nolanverse all of a sudden. At the time, people said nothing but good things about it and now that this has come out, people are treating the Nolanverse like it was Batman and Robin. A little harsh IMO.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Mar 28, 2016 10:32:31 GMT -5
^ That's one of the first comments I've seen that didn't like Irons. Most reviews liked him and I thought he was the best live action Alfred we've gotten yet. I couldn't stand Michael Caine or his British humor. I never bought him as someone who assisted Bruce with his gadgets and crime fighting. Irons played his part well, but he just didn't have the look of Alfred to me. He seemed a bit too young, especially for what was supposed to be an older Bruce. I'm not sure why everyone hates the Nolanverse all of a sudden. At the time, people said nothing but good things about it and now that this has come out, people are treating the Nolanverse like it was Batman and Robin. A little harsh IMO. Rises was meh, but Begins and TDK are ten times better than this movie for me anyways. Begins is my favorite Batman movie
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Post by marino13 on Mar 28, 2016 10:36:47 GMT -5
Didn't want to start a new thread....
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