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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 16:44:59 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar should really still be undefeated from when he returned in 2012, in my opinion. That, I do agree with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:17:02 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:19:13 GMT -5
I'll have to wait and see how it goes. I'm against part timers being champion, unless they stick around.
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Post by @Sweetbob on Aug 11, 2014 2:09:01 GMT -5
The whole 'Brock shouldn't win the title because he'll only wrestle every 3 months' argument has no basis.
During Hogan's championship run in the 80's, he only wrestled the major events, which was about every 2-3 months. I'll enjoy this more than an Orton or Cena reign.
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Post by China Claus on Aug 11, 2014 3:54:57 GMT -5
I could care less who wins, as long as this is Cena's LAST title reign.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 5:51:56 GMT -5
I could care less who wins, as long as this is Cena's LAST title reign. Trust me, WWE wants Cena to overcome Flairs reign, so it won't be.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Aug 11, 2014 10:30:08 GMT -5
The whole 'Brock shouldn't win the title because he'll only wrestle every 3 months' argument has no basis. During Hogan's championship run in the 80's, he only wrestled the major events, which was about every 2-3 months. I'll enjoy this more than an Orton or Cena reign. Yeah, but during the 80's, there wasnt Raw everyweek and a PPV every months. You cant compare that to the situation now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 10:42:36 GMT -5
The whole 'Brock shouldn't win the title because he'll only wrestle every 3 months' argument has no basis. During Hogan's championship run in the 80's, he only wrestled the major events, which was about every 2-3 months. I'll enjoy this more than an Orton or Cena reign. Yeah, but during the 80's, there wasnt Raw everyweek and a PPV every months. You cant compare that to the situation now. Two words. Over saturated
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 11:38:31 GMT -5
The whole 'Brock shouldn't win the title because he'll only wrestle every 3 months' argument has no basis. During Hogan's championship run in the 80's, he only wrestled the major events, which was about every 2-3 months. I'll enjoy this more than an Orton or Cena reign. That was then, this is now, things change. People expect to see them at every show now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 11:42:53 GMT -5
All I have to say is my gut says maybe.
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Post by Dan on Aug 11, 2014 12:44:48 GMT -5
If you're not going to enjoy it you're just trying to be smart. Not everything is about 'pushing stars for the future'. Right now there isn't any other logical or viable option. It's Brock Lesnar. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Post by RV F'N D on Aug 11, 2014 14:05:42 GMT -5
I imagine if WWE plans to have him to keep the title for any length of time they've had to have added dates to his deal. To think they'll let him take that belt and go play in the woods 80% of his time seems a bit far fetched to me. Either way I'll take it over more Cena/Orton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 14:09:14 GMT -5
The whole 'Brock shouldn't win the title because he'll only wrestle every 3 months' argument has no basis. During Hogan's championship run in the 80's, he only wrestled the major events, which was about every 2-3 months. I'll enjoy this more than an Orton or Cena reign. Yeah, but during the 80's, there wasnt Raw everyweek and a PPV every months. You cant compare that to the situation now. They had Prime Time Wrestling, Superstars of Wrestling and Wrestling Challenge every week and all three were treated like major shows because you got to see the stars plus Saturday Night's Main Event every month or two which were basically 90 minute Pay-Per-Views broadcast on free TV and Hogan was on a hell of a lot of those so yeah, the comparison is valid. We could all benefit from it being a special occasion when the world champion is on TV instead of having the guy overexposed by appearing every single week.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Aug 11, 2014 15:57:40 GMT -5
I'll enjoy it while it lasts tbh. If Lesnar defends the Title at nearly every PPV til WM then its all good.
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Post by Chip on Aug 11, 2014 16:25:04 GMT -5
the problems with Lesnar are not just because he's a part timer
this isn't 1987. the world moves faster now. no one wants to wait 6 months to see a title defense in wrestling. it hasnt been that way since most of us were little and/or not even born. people want to talk about RIGHT NOW....not 6 months from now. or 3 months, whatever, pick a length.
plain and simple, this company has not proven in ANY way over the last couple years, that they have the desire to put out a product GOOD ENOUGH to not have title matches, big matches, etc. on their monthly events. if they actually took the direction of making the title a longer chase with a longer build it might work, but that would involve them actually caring about mid-card titles too.
they could sell a PPV event where Rollins/Ambrose closed the show with an epic, big feud ending match....plus good filler? people would watch. but they don't do things like that. this company operates on a week-to-week basis with their own FANS let alone newbies.
Brock winning the title and only appearing once and awhile would be FINE if this was the UFC, or quite frankly anything else besides wrestling. They've already set the bar to a certain standard, you can't knock it down unless you have legitimate plans behind it, which they never do and never will.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 11, 2014 16:41:37 GMT -5
I clicked yes, but honestly there is no way of knowing right now. I'm interested in the concept of it, but we'll have to wait and see how it all plays out.
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Aug 11, 2014 16:43:12 GMT -5
I mentioned this in a previous thread, but I'm not sure why everyone assumes Lesnar will have a lengthy reign, or any kind of reign for that matter, when he beats Cena. I can't imagine WWE will have Lesnar win at SummerSlam and hold the belt til Mania after the incessant complaining that went on when Rock went from Rumble to Mania. I also can't imagine Lesnar losing to anyone for any reason prior to Mania.
In my estimation, the only thing that would make sense is for Lesnar to absolutely kick Cena's ass, win the title and vacate it the next night on Raw. If Lesnar decimates Cena and wins the title, then what more does he have to prove? He has said that he wants to be WWE World Heavyweight Champion. He has never said that he wants to defend the title or have a long reign.
I think on the post-SummerSlam Raw Lesnar and Heyman claim that he has done it all and has nothing left to prove. He surrenders the titles to The Authority and a tournament is set up for Night of Champions. That also allows them to eliminate the Big Gold Belt and introduce the new WWE Championship in a logical and fluid manner.
Then an enemy of The Authority like Batista wins the title before Triple H convinces Lesnar to come back at Rumble of Elimination Chamber to win the title back. Then it culminates in Lesnar dropping the title to Bryan or Reigns at Mania.
That's how you get Lesnar from SummerSlam to Mania as champion without having him lose and without having him technically hold the strap for the entire time.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 11, 2014 16:55:56 GMT -5
I wanna see Rollins walk out champion to be honest, but not by a cash-in. Could Lesnar simply just hand the belt over to the Authority if he wins? It would throw in a curve ball and leave see room for Lesnar to back again for like the Royal Rumble. Brock working the B pay per views just seems unheard of and I have no idea how it will work. Who are these wrestlers that he could face at this point now? More rematches with Cena, possible, split the world titles again, highly unlikely, satellite champion only works the pay per views, possible. I guess we must WAIT AND SEE..... I do want to point out that the WWE is treating Night of Champions and Hell in a Cell like "A" Pay-Per-Views because of the WWE Network renewals. They're said to have big cards in mind so I could see Brock being booked for these shows.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Aug 11, 2014 17:59:15 GMT -5
I wanna see Rollins walk out champion to be honest, but not by a cash-in. Could Lesnar simply just hand the belt over to the Authority if he wins? It would throw in a curve ball and leave see room for Lesnar to back again for like the Royal Rumble. Brock working the B pay per views just seems unheard of and I have no idea how it will work. Who are these wrestlers that he could face at this point now? More rematches with Cena, possible, split the world titles again, highly unlikely, satellite champion only works the pay per views, possible. I guess we must WAIT AND SEE..... I do want to point out that the WWE is treating Night of Champions and Hell in a Cell like "A" Pay-Per-Views because of the WWE Network renewals. They're said to have big cards in mind so I could see Brock being booked for these shows. If the plan is for Lesnar to keep the title till Mania, I could see Lesnar defend the title on those two PPVs, plus the Royal Rumble. They honestly don't need Lesnar to make a title defense at Survivor Series to sell the PPV on the Network or on regular PPV cause they could easily build a 4 on 4 or 5 on 5 Survivor Series between the Authority and the Anti-Authority team. On TLC, they could pull a CM Punk where he didn't defend the title (even though his was because on injury), and there could be a big time match to sell that PPV. Now thinking about it, I don't think they even need him after Hell in a Cell to defend the title, cause the Rumble match could sell the Royal Rumble PPV and the Elimination Chamber match could sell the Elimination Chamber PPV alone, but I see Lesnar defend it on those three PPVs.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Aug 11, 2014 23:36:49 GMT -5
Nope - a Lesnar title reign is neither needed or wanted. The only way I would enjoy it, is if it coincided with a Punk return, and him taking the title from Lesnar at WM.
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