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Post by alexgg on Aug 12, 2014 7:43:50 GMT -5
I want to see Brock as champion, but I also want to SEE Brock as champion, so I really hope if he wins that he's actually going to stay around and not just walk out with the title.
I can't see what feuds he would have though, or how long his reign could last, ideally it would last until WrestleMania, but that could become very repetitive seeing as Mania is still quite a while away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 13:17:37 GMT -5
I personally hate Brock. I don't think i'll enjoy it. And really I admit it I like Cena. I think Cena has hit the stride of his career hes at his best.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 16:47:03 GMT -5
I mentioned this in a previous thread, but I'm not sure why everyone assumes Lesnar will have a lengthy reign, or any kind of reign for that matter, when he beats Cena. I can't imagine WWE will have Lesnar win at SummerSlam and hold the belt til Mania after the incessant complaining that went on when Rock went from Rumble to Mania. I also can't imagine Lesnar losing to anyone for any reason prior to Mania. In my estimation, the only thing that would make sense is for Lesnar to absolutely kick Cena's ass, win the title and vacate it the next night on Raw. If Lesnar decimates Cena and wins the title, then what more does he have to prove? He has said that he wants to be WWE World Heavyweight Champion. He has never said that he wants to defend the title or have a long reign. I think on the post-SummerSlam Raw Lesnar and Heyman claim that he has done it all and has nothing left to prove. He surrenders the titles to The Authority and a tournament is set up for Night of Champions. That also allows them to eliminate the Big Gold Belt and introduce the new WWE Championship in a logical and fluid manner. Then an enemy of The Authority like Batista wins the title before Triple H convinces Lesnar to come back at Rumble of Elimination Chamber to win the title back. Then it culminates in Lesnar dropping the title to Bryan or Reigns at Mania. That's how you get Lesnar from SummerSlam to Mania as champion without having him lose and without having him technically hold the strap for the entire time. That idea makes a lot of sense. I'd like it if they did that tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 17:34:47 GMT -5
I still subscribe to the 'Anyone but Cena' newsletter.
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Post by Rattlehead on Aug 13, 2014 1:47:27 GMT -5
How so? Because you don't build something for twenty plus years like they did with the streak, then have someone end it, only to lose his very next match to someone that doesn't need that big win. It's really simple logic and booking. Biggest shock in WWE history moment to a Cena wins again is a stupid, stupid decision But if they've got to do that to force feed the fact that Cena is the "greatest wwe champion of all time" even more then whatever. They'll lose a fan and a paying network subscriber in myself. No they won't. You will still be a fan, and you will still be a subscriber. I have seen many people over the years say "if Cena wins, I am no longer watching" but they still watch each week anyhow. And it doesn't matter now if Lesnar loses every match he ever has now. All that mattered was he ended the streak. It was like the Honky Tonk Man back in the day. He pretty much lost every match ever after losing the IC Title, but it didn't matter, cause he was still the longest reigning IC Champion in the history of the WWE. Lesnar could lay down every match now, and it wouldn't matter, cause the next day Paul Heyman could say "Lesnar ended the streak" and that is a big deal because Lesnar is the only one who can say he did that. So it doesn't matter if he loses to Cena at SummerSlam. I see what you mean with angry wrestling fans threatening not to watch another episode after an upsetting event. It's true, in my case though, I stopped watching wwe like I used to religiously. I was one of the fans that got tired of the Cena and Orton fueds, Cena as champion again, crappy stories etc. I can't believe I stopped watching my favorite entertainment because of the those reasons but I really did lose interest since 2006 - 2007. I don't even have interest in paying 9.99 a month. But I believe wwe gains more fans than lose them . Its not like they'll come knocking at my door begging for me to be a fan again. So yeah, there's people that do get fed up. As for SS, if Cena wins, how many would actually be surprised that super Cena once again overcame the challenge? Because by the comments most are convinced that Brock will walk out as champion. Could upset many if Cena won , but hey! Brock defeated the streak!! -_- anyways to answer the op, I'll take any champion but Cena...... And Orton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 17:02:34 GMT -5
Just gonna go ahead and lock the poll now.
Thanks for all the votes.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 14, 2014 17:04:04 GMT -5
What're the odds he wins and competes monthly until WM31? As SummerSlam gets closer, I feel like it could actually happen...
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Post by Evil Abed on Aug 14, 2014 17:09:29 GMT -5
I mentioned this in a previous thread, but I'm not sure why everyone assumes Lesnar will have a lengthy reign, or any kind of reign for that matter, when he beats Cena. I can't imagine WWE will have Lesnar win at SummerSlam and hold the belt til Mania after the incessant complaining that went on when Rock went from Rumble to Mania. I also can't imagine Lesnar losing to anyone for any reason prior to Mania. In my estimation, the only thing that would make sense is for Lesnar to absolutely kick Cena's ass, win the title and vacate it the next night on Raw. If Lesnar decimates Cena and wins the title, then what more does he have to prove? He has said that he wants to be WWE World Heavyweight Champion. He has never said that he wants to defend the title or have a long reign. I think on the post-SummerSlam Raw Lesnar and Heyman claim that he has done it all and has nothing left to prove. He surrenders the titles to The Authority and a tournament is set up for Night of Champions. That also allows them to eliminate the Big Gold Belt and introduce the new WWE Championship in a logical and fluid manner. Then an enemy of The Authority like Batista wins the title before Triple H convinces Lesnar to come back at Rumble of Elimination Chamber to win the title back. Then it culminates in Lesnar dropping the title to Bryan or Reigns at Mania. That's how you get Lesnar from SummerSlam to Mania as champion without having him lose and without having him technically hold the strap for the entire time. I actually really like this idea. The only slight problem I have with is it, is I hate the idea of the WWE Title being vacated 3 times within a year, especially if they don't have to. Other than that, I absolutely love the plan.
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Aug 14, 2014 17:17:21 GMT -5
I mentioned this in a previous thread, but I'm not sure why everyone assumes Lesnar will have a lengthy reign, or any kind of reign for that matter, when he beats Cena. I can't imagine WWE will have Lesnar win at SummerSlam and hold the belt til Mania after the incessant complaining that went on when Rock went from Rumble to Mania. I also can't imagine Lesnar losing to anyone for any reason prior to Mania. In my estimation, the only thing that would make sense is for Lesnar to absolutely kick Cena's ass, win the title and vacate it the next night on Raw. If Lesnar decimates Cena and wins the title, then what more does he have to prove? He has said that he wants to be WWE World Heavyweight Champion. He has never said that he wants to defend the title or have a long reign. I think on the post-SummerSlam Raw Lesnar and Heyman claim that he has done it all and has nothing left to prove. He surrenders the titles to The Authority and a tournament is set up for Night of Champions. That also allows them to eliminate the Big Gold Belt and introduce the new WWE Championship in a logical and fluid manner. Then an enemy of The Authority like Batista wins the title before Triple H convinces Lesnar to come back at Rumble of Elimination Chamber to win the title back. Then it culminates in Lesnar dropping the title to Bryan or Reigns at Mania. That's how you get Lesnar from SummerSlam to Mania as champion without having him lose and without having him technically hold the strap for the entire time. I actually really like this idea. The only slight problem I have with is it, is I hate the idea of the WWE Title being vacated 3 times within a year, especially if they don't have to. Other than that, I absolutely love the plan. Yea, I mean they were obviously forced into doing it a second time with Bryan's injury, but I think Lesnar doing it would fit his character and it would be a totally different situation from the first two times. I just have a hard time believing that they're going to have Lesnar hold the title for eight months as a part-time guy personally.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 17:37:47 GMT -5
If executed well..... then yes.
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Post by skribbel24 on Aug 15, 2014 5:06:40 GMT -5
Yes, definitely! That will be something fresh!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 7:07:41 GMT -5
Nope - a Lesnar title reign is neither needed or wanted. The only way I would enjoy it, is if it coincided with a Punk return, and him taking the title from Lesnar at WM. Definitely not happening
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 7:20:59 GMT -5
No they won't. You will still be a fan, and you will still be a subscriber. I have seen many people over the years say "if Cena wins, I am no longer watching" but they still watch each week anyhow. And it doesn't matter now if Lesnar loses every match he ever has now. All that mattered was he ended the streak. It was like the Honky Tonk Man back in the day. He pretty much lost every match ever after losing the IC Title, but it didn't matter, cause he was still the longest reigning IC Champion in the history of the WWE. Lesnar could lay down every match now, and it wouldn't matter, cause the next day Paul Heyman could say "Lesnar ended the streak" and that is a big deal because Lesnar is the only one who can say he did that. So it doesn't matter if he loses to Cena at SummerSlam. I see what you mean with angry wrestling fans threatening not to watch another episode after an upsetting event. It's true, in my case though, I stopped watching wwe like I used to religiously. I was one of the fans that got tired of the Cena and Orton fueds, Cena as champion again, crappy stories etc. I can't believe I stopped watching my favorite entertainment because of the those reasons but I really did lose interest since 2006 - 2007. I don't even have interest in paying 9.99 a month. But I believe wwe gains more fans than lose them . Its not like they'll come knocking at my door begging for me to be a fan again. So yeah, there's people that do get fed up. As for SS, if Cena wins, how many would actually be surprised that super Cena once again overcame the challenge? Because by the comments most are convinced that Brock will walk out as champion. Could upset many if Cena won , but hey! Brock defeated the streak!! -_- anyways to answer the op, I'll take any champion but Cena...... And Orton. That guy put me in a general category. I don't constantly bring the "I'll stop watching if" to the table. Very rarely. And I once did. After Edge beat Taker at One Night Stand from 2008 I stopped watching for about two years. No real 'reason' as to why I did. I just got tired of it. As it pertains to Cena winning at Summerslam, if he does, I will give up WWE for awhile. I will still have Raw on DVR just in case I miss something "must see." And I might no unsubscribe to the network. I do love the access to the classic wrestling. John Cena going 2-0 against Brock will gain absolutely nothing for John. If they literally had Brock end Taker's streak only to lose to Cena so he can once again overcome the odds and try to evermore establish him as the greatest WWE champion in history to kids who don't know better and to an adult fanbase who mainly disagrees that he is, then yeah, bet your ass I'll stop watching.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 15, 2014 10:43:37 GMT -5
The ones who say they are going to stop watching are the ones who definitely won't stop watching.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 10:51:54 GMT -5
Some Cena fans think they know everything.
Wonder why John Cena has been the top guy of an era where wrestling fans and dwindling in number?
That's sure something to hang a hat on.
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