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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 14, 2014 15:27:40 GMT -5
Opinions?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 15:36:15 GMT -5
I think it's insane. From what I've read it started as a peaceful protest that soon evolved into a more brutal conflict. I'm not going to side with either party. I do not think that the police should have taken it to such extremity at the start, but hopefully this gets resolved soon. Here is a nice link with videos and images of the protests if anyone is interested: nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/08/ferguson-protest-images-fourth-night.html
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 14, 2014 15:38:28 GMT -5
It's not too far from where we live. I hate everything about this. Violence by both sides won't fix what happened.
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Post by Angusdacat on Aug 14, 2014 19:28:21 GMT -5
I think it is absolutely insane for anyone to justify what the police are doing here and the more you find involving this, the more obvious that will be.
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Post by Angel Beast on Aug 15, 2014 0:57:39 GMT -5
I read the Governor of Missouri put Highway Patrol in charge of Ferguson and they have joined protestors in the streets protecting them.
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Post by Halloween King on Aug 16, 2014 23:00:55 GMT -5
What I'll never understand is how looting, and stealing tennis shoes will make things right? I can see how some would be upset, so upset they might cause property damage. Breaking a storefront window out of anger, I can somewhat understand. But to break the window and then go in the store to steal? How will that bring the young man back? How is that shop owner responsible for any of that?
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Post by Mox on Aug 16, 2014 23:03:44 GMT -5
Yeah this deserves harsher opinions. One mistake does not mean behave like a criminal. There is a thing called due process. When someone kills someone they go on trial. Jeez people are the worst.
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Post by slappy on Aug 16, 2014 23:06:20 GMT -5
What I'll never understand is how looting, and stealing tennis shoes will make things right? I can see how some would be upset, so upset they might cause property damage. Breaking a storefront window out of anger, I can somewhat understand. But to break the window and then go in the store to steal? How will that bring the young man back? How is that shop owner responsible for any of that? Are the people doing the looting connected to it or are they just taking advantage of the situation? I'm guessing it's the latter. Yeah this deserves harsher opinions. One mistake does not mean behave like a criminal. There is a thing called due process. When someone kills someone they go on trial. Jeez people are the worst. How often do cops go on trial for killing someone?
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Post by Mox on Aug 16, 2014 23:10:30 GMT -5
What I'll never understand is how looting, and stealing tennis shoes will make things right? I can see how some would be upset, so upset they might cause property damage. Breaking a storefront window out of anger, I can somewhat understand. But to break the window and then go in the store to steal? How will that bring the young man back? How is that shop owner responsible for any of that? Are the people doing the looting connected to it or are they just taking advantage of the situation? I'm guessing it's the latter. Yeah this deserves harsher opinions. One mistake does not mean behave like a criminal. There is a thing called due process. When someone kills someone they go on trial. Jeez people are the worst. How often do cops go on trial for killing someone? Doesn't matter. You either believe in the justice system or you don't. It's not perfect, but it's as close to "just" as it gets.
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Post by slappy on Aug 16, 2014 23:13:55 GMT -5
Are the people doing the looting connected to it or are they just taking advantage of the situation? I'm guessing it's the latter. How often do cops go on trial for killing someone? Doesn't matter. You either believe in the justice system or you don't. It's not perfect, but it's as close to "just" as it gets. Doesn't matter? How is letting someone get away with murder just? How is that close to just? I don't believe in a system where those in power can get away with murder.
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Post by Mox on Aug 16, 2014 23:15:29 GMT -5
Doesn't matter. You either believe in the justice system or you don't. It's not perfect, but it's as close to "just" as it gets. Doesn't matter? How is letting someone get away with murder just? How is that close to just? I don't believe in a system where those in power can get away with murder. I'm going to end this here. Not trying to argue. My point stands as is and anyone can disagree.
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Post by Chip on Aug 17, 2014 0:02:32 GMT -5
I love the concept of "we're pissed off at a white police officer for killing a black guy so before knowing ANY of the facts, or actually letting an investigation be done we're going to break things, burn stores and steal goods for ourselves"
America. Land of the free.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 1:43:56 GMT -5
This same thing happened in the early 90s with the Rodney King riots in LA.
The worst part, they were robbing, looting and trashing their own neighborhood. They are now doing the same in Ferguson. I don't get it.
Kudos for keeping this topic hate free so far guys. I can't take another "I want cops to get killed" topic. I'll end up deleting my account.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 2:54:13 GMT -5
I would need to hear the whole story to make an opinion really. You can't trust the word of news sites.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 4:07:00 GMT -5
I would need to hear the whole story to make an opinion really. You can't trust the word of news sites. Same here. Agreed 100%.
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Post by Mox on Aug 17, 2014 4:11:50 GMT -5
I would need to hear the whole story to make an opinion really. You can't trust the word of news sites. Same here. Agreed 100%. Ehhhhhhh. I don't know about that. If a crime was committed, everyone should let the system play out. Murders happen every day. And this might not even be a murder. This incident is being used as an excuse to act out and express bottled up frustrations and anger. There is no excuse to commit criminal acts or break the law. What is especially frustrating for me, is witnessing everyone dance around this crisis because race is such a hot button issue right now. Nobody wants to call it what it is. There are some people victimizing a city right now - and it's wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 4:31:04 GMT -5
Ehhhhhhh. I don't know about that. If a crime was committed, everyone should let the system play out. Murders happen every day. And this might not even be a murder. This incident is being used as an excuse to act out and express bottled up frustrations and anger. There is no excuse to commit criminal acts or break the law. What is especially frustrating for me, is witnessing everyone dance around this crisis because race is such a hot button issue right now. Nobody wants to call it what it is. There are some people victimizing a city right now - and it's wrong. I agree with this also.
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Post by /X Metal Sorenges x "Mac Oh J~ on Aug 17, 2014 8:33:30 GMT -5
This same thing happened in the early 90s with the Rodney King riots in LA. The worst part, they were robbing, looting and trashing their own neighborhood. They are now doing the same in Ferguson. I don't get it. Kudos for keeping this topic hate free so far guys. I can't take another "I want cops to get killed" topic. I'll end up deleting my account.Civility is almost like chivalry in these parts.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 17, 2014 11:39:14 GMT -5
What I'll never understand is how looting, and stealing tennis shoes will make things right? I can see how some would be upset, so upset they might cause property damage. Breaking a storefront window out of anger, I can somewhat understand. But to break the window and then go in the store to steal? How will that bring the young man back? How is that shop owner responsible for any of that? Are the people doing the looting connected to it or are they just taking advantage of the situation? I'm guessing it's the latter. Yeah this deserves harsher opinions. One mistake does not mean behave like a criminal. There is a thing called due process. When someone kills someone they go on trial. Jeez people are the worst. How often do cops go on trial for killing someone? Not often. when a police officer shoots and kills someone, they are automatically suspended from the police force until a proper investigation on whether the shooting was justifiable or not.
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 18, 2014 0:37:28 GMT -5
Dont be surprised when the investigation is done that Officer Wilson was in the right and then we'll have more rioting. Ive read numerous "Eye Witness" reports about what happened and once the autopsy came out, almost every one of them were prove false just from the autopsy.
If Mike Brown only robbed a store then a shooting is clearly unjust but from the video Brown looked to be a good sized fella and it wouldnt surprise me if there wasnt a struggle over a weapon (if Im not mistaken there was gun fire inside of the officers cruiser)..to me, at that point you've put an officers life in danger. In a life or death situation, there are no rules for survival.
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