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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Oct 24, 2014 18:51:39 GMT -5
Dan Severn...now that was one bad ass mofo. When that music hit and he walked to the ring with that cold stare. Awesome. I wish he had been better in the ring because he had "the look". Plus, he killed D'Lo Brown that one time on Raw. Now that you've mentioned it, imagine if he stayed in the WWF for about two more years. I could imagine a match with Dan Severn and Kurt Angle. Better yet, Severn vs. Chris Benoit. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 19:03:38 GMT -5
I always felt Shamrock left at totally the wrong time......they needed strong & proven faces to oppose the Regime and Angle, Benoit & Tazz were just showing up.
Man he could've had great bouts with them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 19:09:51 GMT -5
Yup.
(Insert Ken Shamrock or Dan Severn here)
Vs. Chris Jericho
Vs. Kurt Angle
Vs. Chris Benoit
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Oct 24, 2014 19:21:21 GMT -5
I always felt Shamrock left at totally the wrong time......they needed strong & proven faces to oppose the Regime and Angle, Benoit & Tazz were just showing up. Man he could've had great bouts with them. What happened with Shamrock? I remember him feuding with Jericho and then he suddenly disappeared. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 19:43:16 GMT -5
I always felt Shamrock left at totally the wrong time......they needed strong & proven faces to oppose the Regime and Angle, Benoit & Tazz were just showing up. Man he could've had great bouts with them. What happened with Shamrock? I remember him feuding with Jericho and then he suddenly disappeared. Burnout with the schedule and his direction(Ryan Shamrock storyline). Prichard & others told him he really should stay because things were getting back on track and they were just adjusting to Russo leaving & the addition of SD! but he still left. They were short of credible top guys in late 99/00 and Shamrock could have been a thorne in the side of the Regime with Rock & Foley. Especially since The Radicalz got added to the regime......Shamrock vs benoit, Guerrero or Saturn would have been great. Ditto for stuff with Angle or even Taz. |
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Oct 24, 2014 19:55:01 GMT -5
On the whole "they shoulda stayed" roof, why wasn't there a Severn/Shamrock PPV match? All we got was a blow-off on Raw and Shamrock in Owen's corner from Summerslam '98.
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 25, 2014 9:22:48 GMT -5
I thought Doc was pretty over heading into WWF? I have no recollection of anything big with him via WWF prior to BFA. No matches, no vignettes. I watched all the shows but Shotgun and never saw him on TV until BFA. What I remember is all of a sudden he appeared as a contestant in the tournament. I remember him from NWA/WCW and UWF back in the 80s and early 90s. He had a WWF trading card that came out in late 1998 (everyone seemed to be in this set-even Papi Chulo who wasn't a TV main stay). The card pictured him in his red/white singlet that Jakks half-assed and I never saw him in this outfit, ever, on WWF TV. His Jakks was on shelves, in bulk, for months. I may be one of the few to have bought one but I'm sure the reason for it not selling well is because no one knew who he was. He was in BFA for a few matches and that's it. For a guy that was JR's boy, JR must've had no say in the matter because I don't remember anything but the BFA matches. Could be wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 9:42:47 GMT -5
I have no recollection of anything big with him via WWF prior to BFA. No matches, no vignettes. I watched all the shows but Shotgun and never saw him on TV until BFA. What I remember is all of a sudden he appeared as a contestant in the tournament. I remember him from NWA/WCW and UWF back in the 80s and early 90s. He had a WWF trading card that came out in late 1998 (everyone seemed to be in this set-even Papi Chulo who wasn't a TV main stay). The card pictured him in his red/white singlet that Jakks half-assed and I never saw him in this outfit, ever, on WWF TV. His Jakks was on shelves, in bulk, for months. I may be one of the few to have bought one but I'm sure the reason for it not selling well is because no one knew who he was. He was in BFA for a few matches and that's it. For a guy that was JR's boy, JR must've had no say in the matter because I don't remember anything but the BFA matches. Could be wrong. Well the BFA was created to get him over when he arrived. But I seem to remember there being some buzz over him heading to WWF, because of his tenure in WCW/NWA. So he hadn't done that much before the BFA, then Bart knocks him out and he's gone. I pretty much just remember him standing next to JR when JR had his own commentary table before the BFA, as like I said, the BFA was created when he arrived to get him over. Yup. (Insert Ken Shamrock or Dan Severn here) Vs. Chris Jericho Vs. Kurt Angle Vs. Chris Benoit Pretty much all I remember of Severn was his sweaty shirt. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 9:54:52 GMT -5
I have no recollection of anything big with him via WWF prior to BFA. No matches, no vignettes. I watched all the shows but Shotgun and never saw him on TV until BFA. What I remember is all of a sudden he appeared as a contestant in the tournament. I remember him from NWA/WCW and UWF back in the 80s and early 90s. He had a WWF trading card that came out in late 1998 (everyone seemed to be in this set-even Papi Chulo who wasn't a TV main stay). The card pictured him in his red/white singlet that Jakks half-assed and I never saw him in this outfit, ever, on WWF TV. His Jakks was on shelves, in bulk, for months. I may be one of the few to have bought one but I'm sure the reason for it not selling well is because no one knew who he was. He was in BFA for a few matches and that's it. For a guy that was JR's boy, JR must've had no say in the matter because I don't remember anything but the BFA matches. Could be wrong. Well the BFA was created to get him over when he arrived. But I seem to remember there being some buzz over him heading to WWF, because of his tenure in WCW/NWA. So he hadn't done that much before the BFA, then Bart knocks him out and he's gone. I pretty much just remember him standing next to JR when JR had his own commentary table before the BFA, as like I said, the BFA was created when he arrived to get him over. Yup. (Insert Ken Shamrock or Dan Severn here) Vs. Chris Jericho Vs. Kurt Angle Vs. Chris Benoit Pretty much all I remember of Severn was his sweaty shirt. Sweaty shirt, jet black hair and mustache, generic black boots and tights... The makings of a champion. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:12:10 GMT -5
Well the BFA was created to get him over when he arrived. But I seem to remember there being some buzz over him heading to WWF, because of his tenure in WCW/NWA. So he hadn't done that much before the BFA, then Bart knocks him out and he's gone. I pretty much just remember him standing next to JR when JR had his own commentary table before the BFA, as like I said, the BFA was created when he arrived to get him over. Pretty much all I remember of Severn was his sweaty shirt. Sweaty shirt, jet black hair and mustache, generic black boots and tights... The makings of a champion. Or a pedo. That Moustache. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:14:45 GMT -5
Sweaty shirt, jet black hair and mustache, generic black boots and tights... The makings of a champion. Or a pedo. That Moustache. The greatest moustache in the history of our sport... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:20:34 GMT -5
Or a pedo. That Moustache. The greatest moustache in the history of our sport...  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:21:28 GMT -5
The greatest moustache in the history of our sport... The second greatest moustache in the history of our sport... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:24:46 GMT -5
The second greatest moustache in the history of our sport... Bart Gunn had a pretty good moustache.  There should be a moustache appreciation thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:29:08 GMT -5
The second greatest moustache in the history of our sport... Bart Gunn had a pretty good moustache. There should be a moustache appreciation thread. A moustache in the history of our sport... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 13:11:41 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 5:43:30 GMT -5
The second greatest moustache in the history of our sport... That could be a picture of Jesse Ventura for all I know. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 22:34:55 GMT -5
For me it was a highlight of watching RAW every week at that time. I recall after mania Butterbean saying something like "I don't know if it was the best punch I ever landed, but it was probably the loudest."
I'm not sure anyone in the tourney would have beaten/done much better with Esch. (haha, though you couldn't do much worse than Bart). He was a much better professional fighter than novice fans game him credit for, do to his shape and all that. Who, if anyone, in the tourney do you guys think would've beaten or made a better fight for the Bean?
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Post by ricflair4ever on Oct 26, 2014 22:47:26 GMT -5
For me it was a highlight of watching RAW every week at that time. I recall after mania Butterbean saying something like "I don't know if it was the best punch I ever landed, but it was probably the loudest." I'm not sure anyone in the tourney would have beaten/done much better with Esch. (haha, though you couldn't do much worse than Bart). He was a much better professional fighter than novice fans game him credit for, do to his shape and all that. Who, if anyone, in the tourney do you guys think would've beaten or made a better fight for the Bean? I dont think anyone could have. Had Severn or Shamrock faced him,they probably would have been smart enough to grapple him instead of trying to fight or KO him. Which i believe Bart thought he could do even if it were an mma style shoot. But if either Severn,Shamrock were in, or Williams would have won, i highly doubt Butterbean would have been at Mania 15 anyway. But yeah i dont think any of the other BFA competitors would have fared much better with Esch if they would have faced him. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Oct 27, 2014 1:22:37 GMT -5
For me it was a highlight of watching RAW every week at that time. I recall after mania Butterbean saying something like "I don't know if it was the best punch I ever landed, but it was probably the loudest." I'm not sure anyone in the tourney would have beaten/done much better with Esch. (haha, though you couldn't do much worse than Bart). He was a much better professional fighter than novice fans game him credit for, do to his shape and all that. Who, if anyone, in the tourney do you guys think would've beaten or made a better fight for the Bean? I dont think anyone could have. Had Severn or Shamrock faced him,they probably would have been smart enough to grapple him instead of trying to fight or KO him. Which i believe Bart thought he could do even if it were an mma style shoot. But if either Severn,Shamrock were in, or Williams would have won, i highly doubt Butterbean would have been at Mania 15 anyway. But yeah i dont think any of the other BFA competitors would have fared much better with Esch if they would have faced him. I had seen Butterbean fight a few times prior to WM, and I knew that was going to be a fiasco for WWE. Butterbean was difficult to hurt and his punching power was legendary. He had been putting guys on the canvas for years, and those were other trained boxers. When he hit Bart Gunn, I wondered if Bart might spend the night in the hospital. He fought Sean O' Haire a few years later in a MMA match. It's not great quality, but it doesn't need to be given the length of time. |
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