AJ F'n Brooks
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Nov 27, 2014 8:41:17 GMT -5
Man... CM Punk is my favorite male wrestler of ALL Time. Punk brought me back to wrestling. And after listening to this podcast, my respect for him only got bigger. It was/is very stupid when people talked/talk and made/make assumptions without knowing sh**. Punk was fu***** fired on his wedding day... WTF WWE?! That's totally messed up! No wonder Punk doesn't want to come back and AJ's been the way she has been lately since coming back... This fu***** company tried to ruin one of, if not, the most important day of their lives. That's fu**** up WWE you bastards!
I'm all for the CM Punk chants and I hope they continue because the chants really have a message(F*** You WWE!F*** You!). But the crowds after this, need to start being more intelligent... CM Punk chants should only be for the Authority/Triple H/Vince McMahon/Stephanie McMahon segments.
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Post by GBM™ on Nov 27, 2014 9:00:34 GMT -5
Man... CM Punk is my favorite male wrestler of ALL Time. Punk brought me back to wrestling. And after listening to this podcast, my respect for him only got bigger. It was/is very stupid when people talked/talk and made/make assumptions without knowing sh**. Punk was fu***** fired on his wedding day... WTF WWE?! That's totally messed up! No wonder Punk doesn't want to come back and AJ's been the way she has been lately since coming back... This fu***** company tried to ruin one of, if not, the most important day of their lives. That's fu**** up WWE you bastards! I'm all for the CM Punk chants and I hope they continue because the chants really have a message(F*** You WWE!F*** You!). But the crowds after this, need to start being more intelligent... CM Punk chants should only be for the Authority/Triple H/Vince McMahon/Stephanie McMahon segments. Yeahhhhh, F*** YOU WWE! Now here's $100 for the ticket
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AJ F'n Brooks
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Nov 27, 2014 9:22:21 GMT -5
Man... CM Punk is my favorite male wrestler of ALL Time. Punk brought me back to wrestling. And after listening to this podcast, my respect for him only got bigger. It was/is very stupid when people talked/talk and made/make assumptions without knowing sh**. Punk was fu***** fired on his wedding day... WTF WWE?! That's totally messed up! No wonder Punk doesn't want to come back and AJ's been the way she has been lately since coming back... This fu***** company tried to ruin one of, if not, the most important day of their lives. That's fu**** up WWE you bastards! I'm all for the CM Punk chants and I hope they continue because the chants really have a message(F*** You WWE!F*** You!). But the crowds after this, need to start being more intelligent... CM Punk chants should only be for the Authority/Triple H/Vince McMahon/Stephanie McMahon segments. Yeahhhhh, F*** YOU WWE! Now here's $100 for the ticket Yeah I get what you're saying... and I'm not one of those cases. But for the people who pay for the ticket to see other performers and still want to send a message to WWE that's the way to do it. After hearing to this podcast, I really think that chanting CM Punk towards HHH and Stephanie McMahon to hijack all of their segments... it will get to them pretty badly. They seem to hate him, so that has to annoy the sh** out of them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:26:36 GMT -5
He'll be back. No but really, I wish he could just do commentary, no wrestling, nothing. Just commentate and so many people would be happy. They can still sell merchandise from him and rake in a sh*t ton of money. Advertise him for shows and just have him cut a quick promo. That's all, I just wanna see him on tv. Hell, I'll watch him on tv even if it's not WWE, guy should try and get some cameos on some shows like Edge did and possibly eventually get a recurring role
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:31:08 GMT -5
CM Punk can bitch and moan that he never got to headline WrestleMania. He should realize that timing was clearly not on his side. When you factor in The Rock for WrestleMania's XXVII to XXIX, everybody knew The Rock had to be involved in the match that closes the show. If The Rock wasn't involved in those three WrestleMania's, the buyrates would have been much lower. They still could've done Punk v Rock v Cena. That way Rock is in the Main Event as is Punk & Cena avenges his loss to Rocky from the year before, everyone's a winner. They also could have done Cena vs. Rock vs. Orton. There are at least 5 guys on Punk's paygrade that could have main evented and deserve it as much as he does. Punk's problem is he wants equal treatment to Cena, but without selling tickets and merch like Cena he simply doesn't deserve it.
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Post by Slim on Nov 27, 2014 9:31:10 GMT -5
I would love to see CM Punk main eventing Mania, he deserves it. And he created the Shield, Come on WWE...
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 27, 2014 9:36:35 GMT -5
CM Punk can bitch and moan that he never got to headline WrestleMania. He should realize that timing was clearly not on his side. When you factor in The Rock for WrestleMania's XXVII to XXIX, everybody knew The Rock had to be involved in the match that closes the show. If The Rock wasn't involved in those three WrestleMania's, the buyrates would have been much lower. They still could've done Punk v Rock v Cena. That way Rock is in the Main Event as is Punk & Cena avenges his loss to Rocky from the year before, everyone's a winner. I've said this over and over again, CM Punk's only logical opponent at WrestleMania XXIX was The Undertaker. The more I hear of people wishing to had seen a Triple Threat Match headlining 'mania XXIX, it makes me want to rip my hair out.
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Post by Infinite on Nov 27, 2014 9:41:37 GMT -5
The wrestling industry is a pretty shitty place to work. The things WWE can get away with because of a lack of real options for their employees is genuinely worrying.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 27, 2014 9:45:15 GMT -5
They still could've done Punk v Rock v Cena. That way Rock is in the Main Event as is Punk & Cena avenges his loss to Rocky from the year before, everyone's a winner. They also could have done Cena vs. Rock vs. Orton. There are at least 5 guys on Punk's paygrade that could have main evented and deserve it as much as he does. Punk's problem is he wants equal treatment to Cena, but without selling tickets and merch like Cena he simply doesn't deserve it. While there were guys on Punk's level, like an Orton, Orotn has main evented WrestleMania. He crapped the bed when he did in 25, but still, he got the chance. Punk, as a face, moved more merch than Orton and got bigger pops than he ever did. He was also more over as a heel. On topic, it's great to finally hear about stuff from CM Punk. I'm sure there are two sides to the story and as we all know, the full truth usually falls somewhere in between. I do believe a fair amount of this. - If he did indeed get less of a paycheck than Rock, Cena, Undertaker, Triple H and Brock at WrestleMania 29 that's crazy. - I always said that he was brought back way too fast after WrestleMania 29 - I'm not too sure that Punk got a huge sponsorship but if he did, I could totally see it being given away - Being hurt by Ryback seems likely since there has been talk about Ryback being unsafe - The Shield being with Punk was something that I wanted originally, but I prefer it the way it ended up being - Triple H did indeed stifle Punk's 2011 momentum. Stupid.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 27, 2014 9:45:36 GMT -5
The wrestling industry is a pretty crapty place to work. The things WWE can get away with because of a lack of real options for their employees is genuinely worrying. As is most industries. Go read up on ethics and you'll see what I mean.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 27, 2014 9:47:40 GMT -5
They still could've done Punk v Rock v Cena. That way Rock is in the Main Event as is Punk & Cena avenges his loss to Rocky from the year before, everyone's a winner. I've said this over and over again, CM Punk's only logical opponent at WrestleMania XXIX was The Undertaker. The more I hear of people wishing to had seen a Triple Threat Match headlining 'mania XXIX, it makes me want to rip my hair out. That could be your feelings towards it. The WWE could've gotten the big money main event that The Rock brings in. CM Punk could've headlined a WrestleMania like he wanted and deserved to do after being the best thing about the WWE in 2012. John Cena gets to overcome the TWO BIGGEST OBSTACLES that he has faced. Cena overcomes the odds...sounds like something the WWE would love. You protect the "Once in a Lifetime" feel that WrestleMania 28's match had. Punk going in at champion would've been huge, but even if he didn't, this would've been the way to do. Seems like it makes sense to me and a lot of others.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:49:47 GMT -5
This podcast really makes me question my support for the WWE. I mean, Punk almost died from his staph infection not being properly examined. For those that are going to say oh that's just the doctors fault blah blah blah, Punk stated he clearly had a LOT of nagging injuries, but was pressured/forced into working his ass off despite his injuries
I know i'm not the only one who's questioning their support for the WWE right now
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 9:52:15 GMT -5
Also, for those people that think Punk is a "whiny bitch that left because he didn't get his way" Punk walked out after the Royal Rumble. During that match he suffered another concussion, came back and was chokeslammed through a table by Kane.
At that time he had two busted knees, had just had surgery, had been on antibiotics since November 2013, and had a growth on his back that the WWE doctor refused to do something about. When he left, he went to the doctor, who ruled it as a STAPH INFECTION the size of a softball, and said he could have died from the combination of sickness, meds and activity.
On top of that, he had asked for the Mania main event for three years, promised it, and they gave it to the part-timer Batista, who just got boo'd out of the building. The year before he worked Undertaker. He worked Brock Lesnar, The Rock, Triple H and other part-timers in major matches at PPV's, but wasn't given the main event spot, so he was paid half of what the other guys were making for similar matches. He worked entire UK tours with concussions. He was brought back 2 weeks after a 4-6 weeks surgery.
He's a human being, he doesn't owe people anything, and if you had half of that **** going on, you would have walked out on your job 10 times before then.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 27, 2014 9:53:44 GMT -5
This thread is going to feature so much back and forth.
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AJ F'n Brooks
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Nov 27, 2014 9:55:18 GMT -5
I think it's just stupid people saying Punk didn't deserve to Main Event Wrestlemania. Come on now... CM Punk whether WWE likes it or not is going down as a legend and was misused. Proof? Never seen people chant for a person for almost a year now when the guy's not even there... He really was/is something special.
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Post by Infinite on Nov 27, 2014 9:57:40 GMT -5
The wrestling industry is a pretty crapty place to work. The things WWE can get away with because of a lack of real options for their employees is genuinely worrying. As is most industries. Go read up on ethics and you'll see what I mean. Ok bro I'll go read up on ethics for you
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Post by KeBen Owens on Nov 27, 2014 9:58:44 GMT -5
WWE are bungholes
Punk's an bunghole, but nobody deserves that kind of treatment, especially after giving their bodies to a company that uses them to market and produce a character in order to make money
I hope Punk isn't completely done, and shows up on a one-off show for ROH.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Nov 27, 2014 10:00:26 GMT -5
I've said this over and over again, CM Punk's only logical opponent at WrestleMania XXIX was The Undertaker. The more I hear of people wishing to had seen a Triple Threat Match headlining 'mania XXIX, it makes me want to rip my hair out. That could be your feelings towards it. The WWE could've gotten the big money main event that The Rock brings in. CM Punk could've headlined a WrestleMania like he wanted and deserved to do after being the best thing about the WWE in 2012. John Cena gets to overcome the TWO BIGGEST OBSTACLES that he has faced. Cena overcomes the odds...sounds like something the WWE would love. You protect the "Once in a Lifetime" feel that WrestleMania 28's match had. Punk going in at champion would've been huge, but even if he didn't, this would've been the way to do. Seems like it makes sense to me and a lot of others. There is a reason why the WWE tends to shy away from doing Triple Threat main events at WrestleMania. Considering that there has been only two Triple Threat matches that headlined WrestleMania, it speaks for itself. You couldn't keep The Undertaker off the card so by default, CM Punk was the only man 'Taker could have been paired with. CM Punk should have realized that timing was not on his side. Vince McMahon wanted The Rock & John Cena to headline 'Mania XXIX in a singles match. What Vince McMahon want's, he gets. Besides,, Punk saying Vince McMahon is out of touch isn't really news. Vince has been out of touch for over twenty years. John Cena has been overcoming the odds so many times. When we see more and more of it, it becomes the standard in his matches. Seems as if CM Punk expected for the machine to hand everything to him on a silver platter. No wonder why the WWE mistreated him in the first place.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 27, 2014 10:08:14 GMT -5
That could be your feelings towards it. The WWE could've gotten the big money main event that The Rock brings in. CM Punk could've headlined a WrestleMania like he wanted and deserved to do after being the best thing about the WWE in 2012. John Cena gets to overcome the TWO BIGGEST OBSTACLES that he has faced. Cena overcomes the odds...sounds like something the WWE would love. You protect the "Once in a Lifetime" feel that WrestleMania 28's match had. Punk going in at champion would've been huge, but even if he didn't, this would've been the way to do. Seems like it makes sense to me and a lot of others. There is a reason why the WWE tends to shy away from doing Triple Threat main events at WrestleMania. Considering that there has been only two Triple Threat matches that headlined WrestleMania, it speaks for itself. You couldn't keep The Undertaker off the card so by default, CM Punk was the only man 'Taker could have been paired with. CM Punk should have realized that timing was not on his side. Vince McMahon wanted The Rock & John Cena to headline 'Mania XXIX in a singles match. What Vince McMahon want's, he gets. Besides,, Punk saying Vince McMahon is out of touch isn't really news. Vince has been out of touch for over twenty years. John Cena has been overcoming the odds so many times. When we see more and more of it, it becomes the standard in his matches. Seems as if CM Punk expected for the machine to hand everything to him on a silver platter. No wonder why the WWE mistreated him in the first place. There it goes. You were making sense until that line. CM Punk never expected to be handed anything. The dude worked hard to go from OVW to ECW to the second biggest face in the company. He felt that he deserved a WrestleMania main event, not because it was owed to him but because he earned it. He earned it by being the second biggest face in the company (bigger than Orton, Batista or any other guy they put as the number two behind Cena). The fact that Randy Orton, Batista and THE MIZ got to main event a WrestleMania while he didn't is a bit embarrassing.
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 27, 2014 10:15:24 GMT -5
CM Punk can bitch and moan that he never got to headline WrestleMania. He should realize that timing was clearly not on his side. When you factor in The Rock for WrestleMania's XXVII to XXIX, everybody knew The Rock had to be involved in the match that closes the show. If The Rock wasn't involved in those three WrestleMania's, the buyrates would have been much lower. This. While I don't doubt a lot of the things he said, Punk comes off as a self-indulged jerk as well. The guy claims his WWE career was a failure for not main eventing WM, yet he was given the longest WWE Title reign since the Rock n' Roll era, defended the WWE Title at WM, was given a match with Undertaker at WM, and was a 5 time world champ. He was given more freedom over his promos than most others, feuded with the top guys, and was a focal point for years. Most guys don't get a fraction of what he got, and would kill to have any small amount of that success. I see both sides at fault for this volatile relationship and it was eventually going to happen. Though if there is one thing Punk said I find very believable its his feelings towards HHH. Its nothing new but coming from a former top star it seems to validate HHH being one of the biggest sharks of all time. The guy will chew anyone up and spit them out if he fears their popularity and standing backstage.
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