jeffro2000
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Post by jeffro2000 on Dec 4, 2014 20:27:45 GMT -5
I don't think that WWE could ever really trust Punk to be the top guy. Of course they could trust him to be a great wrestler, and have great matches, and be a good talker too. But I don't think they could trust him to be a safe top guy for them. By that I mean that they couldn't give him the ball and know that he'll be happy with whatever as long as he's a top guy and he'll stick around for 10 years. With Punk the feeling was always, even when he was happy, that he wasn't sticking around forever. When WWE gave Cena the ball we all knew that he'd be around for 10+ years at least, barring a career ending injury. With Punk, had he been push to the moon, did anyone really think he'd still be working full time in 2016, let alone 2021? Did anyone think that he would happily have the brutal WWE schedule PLUS a massive media schedule and be happy about it for a large amount of time? Really, does anyone think that Punk would ever be happy? Even if he was given the world? I don't think so. I think if he was given everything he'd asked for he'd just do a couple more years and then retire. I think WWE thought that too, and decided that they weren't gonna give him the ball if he wasn't gonna run with it for more than a couple of years. Punk says he wants to be the #1 guy, but he never comes across as willing to deal with all the stuff that came with it - stuff that Hogan, Rock, Cena and even Austin embraced. And before someone says that Rock and Austin (by the time he was at the top) weren't around very long, that was totally different. No one knew Rock would become a massive movie star at the start and by the time he did go he left with Vince's blessing because he wanted Rock to be the first star to successfully transition from wrestling into mainstream media. As for Austin, no one knew he would his neck up. Both guys looked like (on paper at least) that they would be top stars for years and years; it just didn't work out that way. Punk never looked like (IMO at least) he would stick around for more than a few years if he actually got everything he wanted. Also, if he says he was convinced that he could force his way into the WM event, and then the next night he said to Vince that he was screwing up Bryan's time, was he convinced he could make the main event Bryan vs. Punk (I assume he would expect to turn heel again then) or a fatal four way for the title? Or did he only think Bryan should be in the main event once he accepted that he wasn't getting it? Not having a go, genuinely curious. I totally agree with you, and have been saying this for a while. It is why Vince is so reluctant to move away from Cena. He can trust Cena to do the right thing, do all this company stuff and be his guy. Just look at Vince's history with other guys he has tried to make "the guy" Hogan was the 1st top guy. He could trust Hogan and they had a great 8-9 yr run, but it eventually did go sour. Warrior. He tried to make Warrior the guy and for a myriad of reasons it didn't work. Had to go back to Hogan. Bret Hart was a guy he could trust though Vince was always trying to replace him. Eventually this relationship went to crap. HBK. He could never trust him to do the right thing. Austin Relatively short run on top, they did bump heads, injuries derailed him Rock. Left for Hollywood. Nobody can blame him for that. Just a freak occurrence that he blew up on that level. Brock. Gave him the keys and he couldn't handle it. Plus there are other guys like Diesel, Luger, Angle, etc who were given a chance but couldn't handle it or left. You can add Punk to the list too. I don't think WWE ever felt like he was going to stick around forever, so why build a company around him? We could be wrong, but reports often stated the same thing. D. Bryan also. He was given a chance, but got injured. He can't help it, but if you can't work you aren't helping, same in any sport. Hopefully he will be back. You see that Vince has only been able to rely on a select few guys due to a number of factors, so it is hard for him to throw his trust into anyone. It isn't easy to find a guy that has the longevity and appeal that a Hogan or Cena have had. It's a tough business/life and Vince is not easy to work with.
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Post by HVMMONS on Dec 4, 2014 20:30:09 GMT -5
I doubt WWE took and down and how would they be able too unless they played some form of WWE music. Plus Vince pretty much apologized to Punk in his podcast with Austin Pretty much? He DID apologize, haha. Straight up apologized.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Dec 4, 2014 21:46:39 GMT -5
Enjoyed Part II a lot. Not as good as Part I, but still very interesting. To pick up on what Punk said on one of them, I definitely agree there should be a union for the wrestlers. If the NFL can have it, WWE should. If they truly cared about the wellbeing of their wrestlers, something like this would have been added years ago. I actually enjoyed part II better. It has a better vibe, Punk seemed to be in a better mood. I think he's an entertaining guy though, I could listen to him talk for a while. I would love a CM Punk podcast but I know it'll never happen. props to Ryback for taking the high road, regardless of whatever is true. WrestleZone posted a video of Ryback responding to the podcast. I didn't bother to watch it though.
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Post by Word™ on Dec 4, 2014 22:17:45 GMT -5
The coolest part about the CM Punk stuff is how much Vince clearly respects him.. That is a RARE thing to happen for this generation of wrestlers. From various things I've read and heard since 2011 during the whole 'Summer of Punk', Vince truly does respect CM Punk.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Dec 4, 2014 23:52:40 GMT -5
Damn, Colt said they got 10,000 emails about Punk. Definitely not reading my question then You also sent it to the wrong box. At least the email you gave me was the wrong one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2014 23:55:12 GMT -5
Definitely not reading my question then You also sent it to the wrong box. At least the email you gave me was the wrong one. I figured it out and sent it to the right one. Sorry aboot that.
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Post by HVMMONS on Dec 5, 2014 2:16:44 GMT -5
I enjoyed Part 2, not better than Part 1 though. Man, I wish Punk had a Podcast.
"Best Podcast In the World"
Boom. Money.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 7:07:02 GMT -5
VERY entertaining......these podcasts have shed a lot of light on some VERY murky waters.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 9:41:45 GMT -5
Finished part 1 again, wanted to listen again before delving into part 2...what a listen...
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 5, 2014 10:08:03 GMT -5
I enjoyed Part 2, not better than Part 1 though. Man, I wish Punk had a Podcast. "Best Podcast In the Workd" Boom. Money. He did tweet a while ago that he was starting a podcast, comic and something else. Then he said that two of the three things he posted were true. The comic is one and I hoped that the podcast would be two. I'd download it every single week.
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Post by HVMMONS on Dec 5, 2014 13:18:55 GMT -5
I enjoyed Part 2, not better than Part 1 though. Man, I wish Punk had a Podcast. "Best Podcast In the Workd" Boom. Money. He did tweet a while ago that he was starting a podcast, comic and something else. Then he said that two of the three things he posted were true. The comic is one and I hoped that the podcast would be two. I'd download it every single week. That. Would. Be. Awesome. There's three people I can listen to for hours on end: CM Punk Paul Heyman Chris Jericho
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 13:50:12 GMT -5
I enjoyed Part 2, not better than Part 1 though. Man, I wish Punk had a Podcast. "Best Podcast In the Workd" Boom. Money. He did tweet a while ago that he was starting a podcast, comic and something else. Then he said that two of the three things he posted were true. The comic is one and I hoped that the podcast would be two. I'd download it every single week. Drumming for a band was the third, which I think he may actually do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 14:19:47 GMT -5
Punk's podcast would be the only one I'd regularly listen too.
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Post by johnnyb on Dec 5, 2014 22:36:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2014 22:57:32 GMT -5
ing love it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 10:01:40 GMT -5
Part 2 wasn't as good, but it was great to hear him sound happy.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Dec 6, 2014 10:54:02 GMT -5
Loved Part 2, great that he addressed the Chants situation. Punk seems like a smart and cool guy, he knows what's best and what's not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 11:55:52 GMT -5
Punk's podcast would be the only one I'd regularly listen too. Why's that? Both of Punk's weren't even in the top 5 Cabana has done.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 12:09:07 GMT -5
Part 2 wasn't bad.
There weren't really many A's made to Q's that were sent in but...whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 12:12:05 GMT -5
Part 2 wasn't bad. There weren't really many A's made to Q's that were sent in but...whatever. BCW, let's be honest... did we really think he was gonna give answers to most of the questions they received? I asked a further in depth question about the chants, as well as a few other decent ones... nothing. Haha
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