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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 7:44:35 GMT -5
Well, here it is everyone: globalwrestlingallia.proboards.com/thread/2/episode-1-january-5th-2015A few things that I think I still need to work on: -Match Variety: I've done way too many pin attempts throughout the show, so I need to work on that for sure. -Posing: There are still some stiff poses that need to be worked on, but overall, I think I'm starting to improve. Anyway, hope you enjoy the show!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 8:24:33 GMT -5
Nice to see at 4:50 AM lol. You're doing a traditional fed now? Eh. Liking the presentation. Not entirely sure about Axel vs Riley, tho it's a good lowercard match. Really liking this so far, especially with the lockup pushing Riley into the ropes. Not something I see often. First stiff pose (well not really stiff, but it looks odd) is Axel stomping on Riley. This seems nitpicky, but I only want you to realize your issues as fast as possible so you don't end up like I did stuck in mediocrity for a while. Instead of having Axel look at the top rope when stomping Riley, perhaps have him look at Riley while stomping him. No clue what was up with that catapult. Stiff pose, and a bit weird for Axel to be doing in the first place...especially if he was just going to toss Riley back in the ring afterwards. You got some good pacing here. Where's the string? ;p You're getting some good movements out of these basics. One thing I noticed is your photography. Very rarely do we get a shot of the entire ring. And while the printout crowd is nice, I think having a few actual figures infront of it would look a bit better. And it appears you don't have commentators...arena could use some improvements. Really like what you're doing with Axel. He taps? Meh. Odd booking decision...seems like Axel was definitely the more dominant wrestler. Pushing Riley isn't a bad thing though.
You could benefit from some kind of backstage area. Even if it's just printouts, it looks a bit weird with HHH cutting a promo infront of the ropes. You're using basic Rowan? Elite Rowan's hard enough to pose with as it is, not having high hopes for this match. Alright posing. Not too good, but eh, how good can you get with one of the least playable figures around and a basic Goldust? Really didn't like this one TBH. I like how you have the referee interaction though. You commented on too many pin attempts in this match, but I thought they made sense, seeing as it seemed both wrestlers were trying to end the match fast.
HHH vs ADR sounds good. Cross armbreaker already? Meh. You need some transition pics here...most notably so far ADR randomly hitting Trips with a big boot. Running poses are another thing that is missing, as are irish whips. Oh boy, ADR kicked out of the pedigree. Not a big fan of false finishes, especially not on a weekly program. I feel they should be reserved for special matches, but hey, at least you waited until the main event. Just a suggestion, maybe if you want to do a similar sequence again (finisher on opponent, both men are weak and have to answer the ten count) maybe have both men struggle to get up instead of someone kicking out of a finisher. Referee spot? I can get behind this. Decent enough match, but my favorite was the opener.
In conclusion? There's a lot of good stuff here. But there is a whole ton of things that are commonplace in real rassling and pic feds that are absent.
Backstage areas. Backstage interaction. Commentary table. Having an actual crowd is just personal preference. Everyone needs a commentary table though...it completes an arena setup. Tag team division. I'm sure you have tag teams. But I didn't see any here. Secondary title. What are the midcarders going to fight for? Certain wrestling moves, such as the irish whip, other corner moves besides strikes and shoulder thrusts. String.
And the biggest one of all....story development. You're only putting out 1 show a month. At the most 2. So you've got to make every single episode count and build towards something. Otherwise, why exactly is Axel fighting Riley? Why's Erick Rowan fighting Goldust? In this episode, it was all filler except for the main event. Triple H called out ADR earlier. Now he's going to settle the score. Screwy finish, ADR retains and there you have it, a feud. What about the rest? Axel fights Riley. Riley wins, goes to shake Axel's hand, and Axel slaps Riley's hand away. Feud. Erick Rowan brutally assaults Goldust after the match. Feud. Hell, this can't be your roster, can it? Rowan, Dust, Axel, Riley, HHH, ADR and JR? Where's everyone else? If that's your entire roster, then you need way more wrestlers. If it's not, give your other roster members storylines. Give them a purpose. Not every wrestler has to be in a match. You could have 3 regular matches, 1 in ring trash talk session, 1 match where wrestler A gets assaulted by Wrestler B before making his way to the ring, and 1 backstage confrontation, and be able to use all of your wrestlers without making the show too long, and without extensive periods of filming matches. I get this is your first show, but your first show should make a large impact and compell people to tune into your next show. The first show is the best way to start storylines. Not every match but 1 has to be filler.
Overall, good effort. Not too great, but you're just starting off. I'm looking forward to your next show, as the only thing that comes from criticism is improvement.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jan 25, 2015 8:25:51 GMT -5
Man, you guys are pumping them out
I enjoyed seeing a ry in a fed, i always thought he could be a solid wrestler,
Nice little mix of wrestlers you have shown so far
The amount of pins only was noticeable in the goldust match, it felt appropriate in the other two
Couple of things to work on
-stiff poses, but you knew that
-when you did the promos with hhh and del rio, it was odd that they had their arms back over the ropes. I would not have even filmed that by the ring, but if you do please fix the arms
- your commentary was a little lacking especially after alberto won...it was just goodnight folks i wonder if you rushed to get this out? Its goid to put up shows, but font rush so much that you cut corners. Good commentary makes a fed
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Post by T on Jan 25, 2015 8:43:50 GMT -5
Nice to see you get this up!
-Nice arena straight away, the ring definitely helps -Some decent poses in the opener, although I do think that Basics are even worse for posing than TTL figures well, particularly the legs. I hate filming with Barrett and Ryan in my fed -Good to see two less-used wrestlers being on display too with Axel and Riley -There were lots of pin attempts in Goldust/Rowan, as you mentioned. It was further highlighted by there being 5 or 6 pics for each pin count - maybe this could be done in one or two pics, to ease your workload, as that might save you 10-15 pics over a match -The promos by HHH and Del Rio could've been done better against a blank background I feel, rather than out at the ring -Cool spot in the main event with the Moonsault -Main event had a good twist at the end, and I was glad Del Rio won
A promising debut show. I like that none of your matches had run-ins, not often you see a whole show without that. Will be interesting to see where the storylines come from. Things to develop:
-Choice of camera angles for poses -More backstage segments, which would help with introducing other characters
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 9:14:14 GMT -5
@brickandyozen - Thanks for the reply man, watching at 4:50 AM? Now that's dedication! I do have a bigger roster, and a secondary title that you'll see on Episode 2. With this show, I took the advice of @bigeviljohn to just sit down and film something, which I'm glad I did because it's been viewed, and for the most part, enjoyed. This show is really a taster of what GWA will be like, but there's definitely going to be storyline developments on the next show, and other members of the roster getting showcased. I'm also working on some other sets which I'm hoping will be ready in time for Episode 2. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to reply! The Champ is Here! - Thanks for the reply! Yeah, I wanted to use A-Ry because I'm a big fan of his, and I know he had the potential to be a mid carder in WWE, but they dropped the ball with him, so I'm hoping GWA will be the place for him to get over. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to reply! T - Thanks for the reply man! Yeah, the HHH/ADR interviews were rushed, and should of been filmed against a different backdrop. I was going for one of those promos where they walk around the ring and reflect, but it just didn't work, as everyone can see. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to reply!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 10:21:40 GMT -5
T and Brick explain basically my view. But you'll improve real soon and real quick so it's no big deal. I can't wait for Episode 2.
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Post by RWF on Jan 25, 2015 13:15:50 GMT -5
Gonna keep it short. Solid show man. Nothing major to complain about. A few stiff poses or whatever, but that's everyone. I liked all the in-ring action. I wish there had been more storylines, even promos to sort of break things up a bit. GREAT main event, though.
Only other quibble would be that you have the part of the ropes that's banded together, facing the camera. Should try and hide those in the corners or at least on one of the far sides. So they're not front and center.
Great show though, looking forward to more.
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Post by slowgraffiti on Jan 26, 2015 2:54:09 GMT -5
A neat little first show that, much like WFW, did the job I felt. Like you said, there are a few things to work on but they aren't major, and will definitely come in time.
Liked having Axel vs Riley as the opener - something unique to pic Feds at least, a match we probably wouldn't see elsewhere and pretty well done for what it was.
I think you do need to find a backstage setup of some description, even if it's a plain background like a wall, or some black card, it would look better than the odd scenario of having guys propped up against the ropes, and it would also help to break the show up a little.
Using Rowan in singles is pretty interesting again, as Id assume most people would have him as part of the Wyatt family. Another nice match for what it was, and I'm interested to see what you do with Rowan.
Main event was definitely the best part of the show, and a good way to really top things off. I like using ADR as one of your top guys, and I enjoyed the false finishes - but that might just be down to my tastes in wrestling.
I'm sure there's a lot more to come in terms of roster, and building for feuds, so I won't criticise on that point until ive seen a couple of shows - no point loading your first show with guys that won't feature too much, or else when I come to watch the next show I'll forget the pecking order. A nice start.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 12:58:36 GMT -5
Ok decent first show, a little dark maybe add another overhead light? and the pics were blurry in some areas. The arena is decent and neat but where are your turnbuckles at? That's the second fed in like a week where the ring doesn't have turnbuckles? Did you guys lose them or something? Also the posing was way stiff but as you progress that will all get better it just takes practice and don't rush through your posing. Seems a lot of guys lately are worried about storylines and show #5 before show #1 is shot and then they falter on the basics of fedding. Posing and pic taking are key!! You can have the best scripts and feuds but its a pic fed if you cant see the pics or the poses are off the fed fails. You had a really decent first show, is this your first pic fed? Didn't you have another you started I forget. So in conclusion nice show very good first episode but please get some turnbuckles and for the love of all pic fedding stick with this fed and make another show in a reasonable amount of time without changing anything, IE roster, arena you know what I mean build this fed up and the main guys you want to use and draw us into your fed. And just work on the lighting a little and try to bend those joints a little whilst posing during movesets. Congratulations and lets see show #2 soon!! PS: Any backstage vignettes or ringside interviews after the match will really help!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 8:21:33 GMT -5
Yes! another traditional picture fed!!! axel and riley, non main event guys, another wow! that's my kind of fed right there! you have a great setup here by the way man... your cards are beautifully done also, goldust vs rowan, nice.. ADR HHH for main event, awesome as well. a little backstage hype and feuds would really boost this man, but still solid show!
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Post by attitudesback on Jan 29, 2015 9:35:48 GMT -5
Liked it man! The poses were a little stiff at times and I felt it would've helped to have some backstage segments, but overall it was a solid start. There was a good pacing to all the matches, every use of the ASR makes me envious because I can't use mine yet! Solid arena though, the entrance stage was simple, yet sweet. I also felt that the commentary table was needed, and because it wasn't shown you could have developed the commentary even if you don't have the figure, because we didn't see them anyway. The opening match really set the pace of the show, to me it showed there was a well thought out card that made sense in terms of star power. Everyone else covered everything really but I liked it. Hopefully episode 2 is up soon, some backstage segments for a more developed plotline and we are onto something here. Great start bro! Thanks for the kind words on Nitro too. Appreciated it!
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Post by CWE OWNER on Feb 4, 2015 10:37:29 GMT -5
Right matey. First of all buzzing arena. Like the Print outs nice and smooth. The poses was great also. Matches very planed out i like it. Like watching the real matches on TV. Its nice to see you have JR's commentating freaking out on the headset. Down to a tee. Mint main event. Thought you was gonna give it Triple H. But Alberto looks to be a great champion.
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Post by juaumguterres on Feb 4, 2015 11:29:57 GMT -5
Man, you've started with Riley vs Perfect. Respect over 9000!
Goldust vs Rowan was a good match, but the main event was the best match of the show, with a lot of drama! I liked Del Rio won and retained the belt. Congratulations for your great show!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 11:56:37 GMT -5
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Post by deskjet on Feb 8, 2015 10:55:24 GMT -5
you had me at Axel and Riley:) I really enjoyed the length of this show. You started with an up and comers match, mid carders, then the main event, with some interview segments sprinkled in. Honestly that's the basis of a good show. The matches flowed well, I could kinda feel the conflict between the wrestlers...the matches felt purposeful, if that makes any sense. You adressed the poses, and this is understandable. Basics are limited, but you tell a good story within the match which helps overshadow that. Very good start and I'm looking forward to more:)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 10:59:24 GMT -5
you had me at Axel and Riley:) I really enjoyed the length of this show. You started with an up and comers match, mid carders, then the main event, with some interview segments sprinkled in. Honestly that's the basis of a good show. The matches flowed well, I could kinda feel the conflict between the wrestlers...the matches felt purposeful, if that makes any sense. You adressed the poses, and this is understandable. Basics are limited, but you tell a good story within the match which helps overshadow that. Very good start and I'm looking forward to more:) Thanks deskjet! I'm glad you enjoyed Axel and Riley, that was the best one to film. Keep your eye on A-Ry, there's more to come from him.
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Post by Wicked on Feb 9, 2015 17:29:03 GMT -5
So I just re watched this. I am going to try to keep this short and sweet. This was a cool debut to your new fed. Good first show. -Cool varieties of superstars. different from all the other feds. -Arena is simple but cool. -Promo's and commentary were ok. Could use some work. -Some cool character development. - Damn that Rowan figure can barely move at all. -Why are triple h and del rio in such a weird pose for a promo... -Cool main event. Ok spots. As a whole this show was ok, it was a good starting point. Posing was pretty stiff throughout and not really natural or realistic. Picture quality is ok. Matches could use better pacing. Good show just work on posing and you will improve. EDIT: Also get some string for your poses...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 12:23:07 GMT -5
Great show i enjoyed watching it alot, the fued between Triple H and Del rio is very good. there match was brilliant to watch, your arena is very nice, i like the printed crowd. good show the matches were very entertaining and i look forward to seeing more from you, good work.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 12:47:06 GMT -5
Thanks @tom180! And welcome to the forum! Any plans for a Pic Fed of your own?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2015 13:03:15 GMT -5
Thank you for the welcome, i am thinking of doing one but i am not sure on what i want it to be yet, but i have some good ideas that i will use if i decide on doing a pic fed.
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