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Post by The Future on Jan 26, 2015 8:24:50 GMT -5
Something I've noticed about public forums (like this one) is that people consistently misuse and over-indulge in malicious phrases, especially when explaining something they disdain. In this case, I'm talking about the reaction threads I've seen to Reigns winning the Rumble, to people's responses to films they didn't enjoy or bands they hate, etc. The 'R' Word (or r_tarded) is really, really, really offensive when casually used and thrown about nonchalantly. Like, I see it in posts that don't warrant it. As an adjective, the dictionary defines it as some (thing, one) characterized by a slowness or limitation in intellectual understanding and awareness, emotional development, academic progress, etc. . I can understand the blanket categorization and laziness that goes into people applying it liberally, but think about the words you use. I am a grad student, teacher, and tutor of students with a variety of needs (including different/special needs) and I would never EVER infer that anyone I work with and learn from be defined by this word. Furthermore, I wouldn't describe a decision Vince McMahon made as being in the same camp as that definition. I'd be more creative. I wouldn't look to call Ke$ha a 'cracker ass white trash hoe', because I'm not sexist, classist, racist, misogynistic or in favor of redundancy. Similarly, I'd appreciate if some members here who have the word in their daily lexicon, repertoire and employ it casually (in real life or on the board) to stop doing it so carelessly. Could this be a petition to have the word board-censored like or crap? Yeah, but then that would imply that people here don't have self control or simple awareness of the impact of their choices. I'm simply trying to open up a dialogue and have the discussion about the way society sees people who are different than them. When you take into consideration the general opinion we have on people with Down Syndrome, MD, Autism, Tourettes, etc., it's always a stereotype or a caricature. Having worked with and being related to people with differing needs, I just ask for your consideration, decency and your humanity. Choose to be more creative, choose to be decent, choose not to use a word you probably didn't even know is offensive. But now you know.
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 26, 2015 8:48:13 GMT -5
I see where you're going at with this
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 8:50:55 GMT -5
It's the same as "homosexual", it'll always be used. Maybe not in the context that it's often mistaken for, but unfortunately it'll always be used. But heck, i'll sign.
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Post by Andrewghbk99 on Jan 26, 2015 9:16:26 GMT -5
I got no problem with what your addressing but this is the problem with America today. Everybody is soooooo nit picky and offended by things that people say and words used
Example: gay gay homosexual intellectually- disabled person intellectually- disabled homo
Then god forbid something religious is said wrong on tv or something that offends another country.
I miss the good ole days
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jan 26, 2015 9:23:37 GMT -5
intellectually- disabled person is an actual word. People who are ignorant have just given it a bad reputation by not using it in proper context. It does not just mean those with mental limitations.
For example. If I am really good at baseball, and I stop practicing and can no longer play as well, then my ability to play baseball has been intellectually- disabled.
Just because some unfortunate people are using the word for the wrong purposes doesn't mean ban the word. We instead should educate those individuals on proper context.
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Post by The Future on Jan 26, 2015 10:04:38 GMT -5
intellectually- disabled person is an actual word. People who are ignorant have just given it a bad reputation by not using it in proper context. It does not just mean those with mental limitations. For example. If I am really good at baseball, and I stop practicing and can no longer play as well, then my ability to play baseball has been intellectually- disabled. Just because some unfortunate people are using the word for the wrong purposes doesn't mean ban the word. We instead should educate those individuals on proper context. That's all I'm truly trying to do...because the only context I ever see it being used in is when it's calling someone or their decision 'stupid', in other words. I really feel like it's just ignorance of how insulting it can be. And I get everyone else who compares it to similar terms like calling something 'gay', when it's really not warranted. I agree there, too. And I'm all for complete freedom of speech, joking around, even saying stuff that's completely offensive and in bad taste so long as it's A) Funny B) Warranted and C) Necessary. Did I use the word 'gay' and 'tard' alot in High School? Yeah...but I was really immature and ignorant. Did I find the scene with Alan in the Hangover funny when he said 'he was a _____'...sure. That didn't make it right, and I wasn't really educated on anything as far as social sensitivity at that point in my life either. This isn't my saying we should have 'banned books' or Voldemort words. I'm simply saying be more selective, respectful and creative when constructing your statements and be aware of the fact that those words hold power.
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Post by The Future on Jan 26, 2015 10:08:00 GMT -5
I got no problem with what your addressing but this is the problem with America today. Everybody is soooooo nit picky and offended by things that people say and words used Example: gay gay homosexual intellectually- disabled person intellectually- disabled homo Then god forbid something religious is said wrong on tv or something that offends another country. I miss the good ole days I don't see how this is comparable to someone saying something nationalistically or religiously insensitive. I just don't hear people sling around words as casually as I do people this term. Speaking from my experience, people aren't throwing 'Jews Jews Jews' or 'Guidos' about left and right. And if they do, they at least are using it in a proper context where they know they're going to catch the ire of certain people. Most times people use the word I'm addressing don't even use it correctly, and nobody bats an eye.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 10:52:18 GMT -5
There's more important things to worry about in the world.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 11:23:06 GMT -5
Aw jeeze. Let's just get it all over with and we can start wearing the bland jumpsuits and stay in a single file line and keep our heads down. Instead of worrying about a stupid word, go outside and pick up some garbage or read to a child. You gave your opinion, and that's great, here's mine, get over it. I swear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 11:34:45 GMT -5
It's just a word. There are a lot of words I hate, but people are still gonna use them. You can't control that.
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Post by ¡Twist Of 45 and 47! on Jan 26, 2015 12:45:24 GMT -5
Lulz, harden up.
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Post by The Yes Man on Jan 26, 2015 12:54:45 GMT -5
I hate how sensitive the world has become.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Jan 26, 2015 13:29:20 GMT -5
I find the attempt to remove words from our vocabulary to be very offensive. Like others have said, intellectually- disabled person means slow, same word as tardy so should we discourage or ban tardy or wait until enough people deem it offensive? The masses aren't good at using words and its atrocious to have them dictate what words are appropriate based on which way the the wind blows today. People don't even know what words mean often, just how they're apparently used. A good example would be the word gay, which has switched apparent meanings recently, with the reason some homosexuals had for choosing the word gay, it's prior meaning, now obscured by the new meaning. They wanted to be able to feel gay and relaxed about their orientation, but hardly anyone even knows what gay used to mean now and therefore why it was that homosexuals chose that word. The Flintstones theme is the last man standing on the prior meaning.
ANY word can be deemed offensive by someone out there, you can make anything the object of perpetual scorn and accusation. You can make ice cream out to be nothing but a first world luxury rather than a delicious treat if you want to. The list of words to ban or discourage would end up totally endless, and you'd need a nightmare to enforce it.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Jan 26, 2015 13:49:30 GMT -5
Could also just say that intellectually- disabled person has a negative connotation because being mentally intellectually- disabled is a very unfortunate thing for a person. Everyone except people like Sarah Palin agrees retardation is a bad thing, and find it horrendously unsympathetic to call it a blessing.
And of course anyone really making fun of the intellectually- disabled is an a**hole, making fun of misfortune is cruel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 14:09:24 GMT -5
Also, this forum is way lighter than other ones I'm a part of. I see way worse everyday.
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Post by slappy on Jan 26, 2015 14:11:01 GMT -5
I got no problem with what your addressing but this is the problem with America today. Everybody is soooooo nit picky and offended by things that people say and words used Example: gay gay homosexual intellectually- disabled person intellectually- disabled homo Then god forbid something religious is said wrong on tv or something that offends another country. I miss the good ole days I too miss the good ole days where people could be racist, homophobic, etc and not be called out for their despicable behavior.
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Post by Jack Specific on Jan 26, 2015 16:04:37 GMT -5
This was one of the socially acceptable terms used way back when. It was never meant to be offensive and the meaning of it is not offensive. In fact the World Health Organization still uses the term. However like many other things, it gets misused and abused. It is not an offensive term but can be used as such just as Jew, Gay, Black Person, etc. For example, I do not see anything offensive if I say "My cousin is mentally intellectually- disabled" but it is offensive if I say "My cousin is a stupid intellectually- disabled person". So it's all in context.
Look at this very old commercial which was meant to bring awareness and support for the "mentally challenged" which is a term now considered to be offensive by some and is now called "Intellectually disabled". Soon that will be offensive to some and changed yet again. It never ends.
Also please keep this thread decent or lockarrony.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jan 26, 2015 16:09:05 GMT -5
It's a in word. People can say whatever they want. Depending on the way they use it, it might make them a jerk, sure. But we're still allowed to say whatever we want.
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Post by Jack Specific on Jan 26, 2015 16:24:17 GMT -5
It's a in word. People can say whatever they want. Depending on the way they use it, it might make them a jerk, sure. But we're still allowed to say whatever we want. No not really, we have our own set of rules here. And if someone uses any word offensively they'll be dealt with.
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Post by slappy on Jan 26, 2015 16:32:11 GMT -5
It's a in word. People can say whatever they want. Depending on the way they use it, it might make them a jerk, sure. But we're still allowed to say whatever we want. But why would you want to use it? "I know this word could offend people but I'm going to be an bunghole and continue using it."
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