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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 30, 2015 18:13:03 GMT -5
So uhhhh, fig doesn't look bad but it certainly looks more like Bobby Roode.
Also why give him kickpads......surely they have a normal boot mold...
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 30, 2015 18:18:47 GMT -5
So uhhhh, fig doesn't look bad but it certainly looks more like Bobby Roode. Also why give him kickpads......surely they have a normal boot mold... They have to have the Goldberg short boot mold. |
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Post by charabro on Jul 30, 2015 18:24:17 GMT -5
It's just a proto so I'm not as narked about the forearm being the wrong way but please use a larger torso, also there's got to be a short boot mold (the likes used on Goldberg) those kickpads are  ing awful and just add height |
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Jul 30, 2015 19:12:55 GMT -5
Looks more like Chris Melendez:  @ftchris I am very impressed with the overall look of the Elgin figure, the cloth jacket looks particularly nice quality. BUT... the head is oversized. And please don't try to tell me it isn't. I know RA figures like the back of my hand, I have hundreds of them in display in my house. Judging the head size against the body WITHOUT the cloth accessories, it is most definetely too big. You need to address this issue NOW, before the problem becomes common in the lines. Please don't go down the Jakks road of not noticing or caring when heads are too big.
Just fix the head sizes and these will be great.The heads definitely have to look more like the early Jakks RAs before all the heads became inflated.  I had low expectations for the singlet, but both cloth accessories do look impressive. |
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Post by cmiller79 on Jul 30, 2015 21:48:42 GMT -5
like others have said the cloth singlet and jacket looks good but damn his head is huge
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 22:35:14 GMT -5
Meh. I'll be buying.
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Post by Jay on Jul 30, 2015 22:45:18 GMT -5
I think the head looks pretty good as far as size goes. If you go with a larger torso, it will look even better. Looking forward to this line.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 22:50:43 GMT -5
A few bullet points to follow up:
Yes, a ROH ring is coming. It will be based on our previously released ring, but with ROH detailing and accessories including ROH barricades packaged with it.
I'm not going to go in depth on every post, because everything here is subjective. Some will love, some will hate. What one might think should be done, another will say leave it as is. That's what makes the world spin. The fact is that we chose the RA style bodies because to this date, JAKKS has THE most extensive roster of characters released, and we wanted to capitalize on that. We will not be changing the body types. They are what they are. We will not be doing Mattel/Toy Biz/DA/Elite style bodies. It's going to be RA style for all the lines, for all the bodies.
We DO have additional parts and molds in production. You'll see the variety we have at our disposal as more figures are released. The simple truth is that we are working within our means and our resources to create some cool figures and bring something new to the table. Elgin is just the beginning. The ROH, Rising Stars, and Legends figures will all be some of the most detailed figures in recent memory.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 30, 2015 23:23:16 GMT -5
A few bullet points to follow up: Yes, a ROH ring is coming. Â It will be based on our previously released ring, but with ROH detailing and accessories including ROH barricades packaged with it. I'm not going to go in depth on every post, because everything here is subjective. Â Some will love, some will hate. Â What one might think should be done, another will say leave it as is. That's what makes the world spin. Â The fact is that we chose the RA style bodies because to this date, JAKKS has THE most extensive roster of characters released, and we wanted to capitalize on that. Â We will not be changing the body types. Â They are what they are. Â We will not be doing Mattel/Toy Biz/DA/Elite style bodies. Â It's going to be RA style for all the lines, for all the bodies. We DO have additional parts and molds in production. Â You'll see the variety we have at our disposal as more figures are released. Â The simple truth is that we are working within our means and our resources to create some cool figures and bring something new to the table. Â Elgin is just the beginning. Â The ROH, Rising Stars, and Legends figures will all be some of the most detailed figures in recent memory. Just give Elgin the right boot mold and we're good... You can't tell me the entire line is going to be wearing kickpads.. |
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Jul 31, 2015 0:14:43 GMT -5
 I'm not a big Elgin fan so I'm kinda meh on it. The cloth accessories are great. The head is huge. And the body is very generic. Quoting so it's on this page as well. I honestly think Elgin was a bad choice to use as their initial proto release. His body shape is really odd to try for your first figure. |
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Jul 31, 2015 3:06:48 GMT -5
@ftchris is A ROH Punk Possible? I've mentioned this before. There's no interest in doing Punk. Nothing personal as he's a tremendous star, but there are 75 Punk figures out there already. Doing something like that instead of a Bobby Fish or a Delirious takes away from the goal of the line: introduce as many new characters to the figure market as possible. Thank you SO much for clearing this up! Because I've been tempted more than once to lock this topic because people were wishing for former WWE stars that already have a gazillion figures... Although I'm not into RA-style figures, what's shown already ain't bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 4:18:25 GMT -5
A few bullet points to follow up: Yes, a ROH ring is coming. It will be based on our previously released ring, but with ROH detailing and accessories including ROH barricades packaged with it. I'm not going to go in depth on every post, because everything here is subjective. Some will love, some will hate. What one might think should be done, another will say leave it as is. That's what makes the world spin. The fact is that we chose the RA style bodies because to this date, JAKKS has THE most extensive roster of characters released, and we wanted to capitalize on that. We will not be changing the body types. They are what they are. We will not be doing Mattel/Toy Biz/DA/Elite style bodies. It's going to be RA style for all the lines, for all the bodies. We DO have additional parts and molds in production. You'll see the variety we have at our disposal as more figures are released. The simple truth is that we are working within our means and our resources to create some cool figures and bring something new to the table. Elgin is just the beginning. The ROH, Rising Stars, and Legends figures will all be some of the most detailed figures in recent memory. If you can get me Scott and Rick Steiner I will marry you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 4:50:41 GMT -5
He has DA arms, interesting...
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Post by The Assassin on Jul 31, 2015 5:04:54 GMT -5
A few bullet points to follow up: Yes, a ROH ring is coming. It will be based on our previously released ring, but with ROH detailing and accessories including ROH barricades packaged with it. I'm not going to go in depth on every post, because everything here is subjective. Some will love, some will hate. What one might think should be done, another will say leave it as is. That's what makes the world spin. The fact is that we chose the RA style bodies because to this date, JAKKS has THE most extensive roster of characters released, and we wanted to capitalize on that. We will not be changing the body types. They are what they are. We will not be doing Mattel/Toy Biz/DA/Elite style bodies. It's going to be RA style for all the lines, for all the bodies. We DO have additional parts and molds in production. You'll see the variety we have at our disposal as more figures are released. The simple truth is that we are working within our means and our resources to create some cool figures and bring something new to the table. Elgin is just the beginning. The ROH, Rising Stars, and Legends figures will all be some of the most detailed figures in recent memory. @ftchris - can you please address the oversized head issue. Several people have mentioned that the head is oversized, you can't just brush off ALL criticisms by saying "some will love, some will hate". RA collectors know if a head is too big or not. If you have any doubt, put the Elgin proto (without the entrance jacket) next to some early Jakks RA figures and judge for yourself. I get that I'm raining on your parade and critical comments from obsessive fans like me are not pleasant to deal with. But I am passionate about wrestling figures and I'm trying to help you guys make the figures better. I'm trying to be respectful in my comments, but that doesn't mean I am going to pretend that this figure is perfect when it isn't. This line is supposed to be aimed at RA collectors, so why not try and make them as good as they can be? They're already good, why not make them great? Again, please don't go down the Jakks road of not noticing or caring when heads are oversized. Look how much better it could be:  |
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Post by kiphouse on Jul 31, 2015 5:53:55 GMT -5
Elgin has a tiny head in real life compared to his body. The fact that this head is huge just makes him look smaller. The fact that it also looks nothing like him and easily worse than the jay briscoe sculpt doesn't help either. Im as excited as anyone, but there's no way ill be paying for this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2015 6:38:53 GMT -5
Did not expect an Elgin figure to be shown. Looks great! I think the bigger torso would work better but for what the company can do, its a good figure and a definite buy for me. The head does not look so big to me.
Its funny to see some people hating on his sculpt when ftchris said before talent has a say in everything. That means Michael Elgin approved the Michael Elgin figure but its still not good enough for some people lol
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Post by micco on Jul 31, 2015 7:18:32 GMT -5
A few bullet points to follow up: Yes, a ROH ring is coming. Â It will be based on our previously released ring, but with ROH detailing and accessories including ROH barricades packaged with it. I'm not going to go in depth on every post, because everything here is subjective. Â Some will love, some will hate. Â What one might think should be done, another will say leave it as is. That's what makes the world spin. Â The fact is that we chose the RA style bodies because to this date, JAKKS has THE most extensive roster of characters released, and we wanted to capitalize on that. Â We will not be changing the body types. Â They are what they are. Â We will not be doing Mattel/Toy Biz/DA/Elite style bodies. Â It's going to be RA style for all the lines, for all the bodies. We DO have additional parts and molds in production. Â You'll see the variety we have at our disposal as more figures are released. Â The simple truth is that we are working within our means and our resources to create some cool figures and bring something new to the table. Â Elgin is just the beginning. Â The ROH, Rising Stars, and Legends figures will all be some of the most detailed figures in recent memory. Just give Elgin the right boot mold and we're good... You can't tell me the entire line is going to be wearing kickpads.. I think your criticism is totally within reason. The kick pads are completely inaccurate to the character despite the figure looking cool. If this is the only boot mold currently at their disposal, then they needed to have additional boot types sculpted immediately and should have held off on producing this figure until they had a more suitable boot option if accuracy is at all a concern of theirs. It's not gonna stop me from buying this figure, but inaccurate part choices is the the pet peeve of many collectors and going down this path could hurt the success of the line. I'd like to know why the slapped a style of boots on this guy that he's never worn once. |
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Post by micco on Jul 31, 2015 7:30:44 GMT -5
A few bullet points to follow up: Yes, a ROH ring is coming. Â It will be based on our previously released ring, but with ROH detailing and accessories including ROH barricades packaged with it. I'm not going to go in depth on every post, because everything here is subjective. Â Some will love, some will hate. Â What one might think should be done, another will say leave it as is. That's what makes the world spin. Â The fact is that we chose the RA style bodies because to this date, JAKKS has THE most extensive roster of characters released, and we wanted to capitalize on that. Â We will not be changing the body types. Â They are what they are. Â We will not be doing Mattel/Toy Biz/DA/Elite style bodies. Â It's going to be RA style for all the lines, for all the bodies. We DO have additional parts and molds in production. Â You'll see the variety we have at our disposal as more figures are released. Â The simple truth is that we are working within our means and our resources to create some cool figures and bring something new to the table. Â Elgin is just the beginning. Â The ROH, Rising Stars, and Legends figures will all be some of the most detailed figures in recent memory. Would you be so kind as to clarify what exactly was the reasoning behind giving Elgin a style of boots that he's never once worn in his career and don't even remotely resemble the type of boots that he actually wears? Was it because you guys don't have any other boot molds at your disposal that more closely resemble his actual boots? Was it just an oversight? Is there another reason? Thanks. |
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Post by micco on Jul 31, 2015 7:43:56 GMT -5
Did not expect an Elgin figure to be shown. Looks great! I think the bigger torso would work better but for what the company can do, its a good figure and a definite buy for me. The head does not look so big to me. Its funny to see some people hating on his sculpt when ftchris said before talent has a say in everything. That means Michael Elgin approved the Michael Elgin figure but its still not good enough for some people lol How does Elgin himself approving the figure relate to whether or not the sculpt is a good likeness? I think a lot of these guys are just happy to be getting a figure and a check (the figure, a first for most) and wouldn't want to offend the artist by saying "this sucks, go back to the drawing board!" What would qualify him to determine what constitutes a good head sculpt as compared those that are out on the market. The knowledgable, die hard collectors are probably more equipt to do that. Then there are those with a more artistic eye and a greater attention to detail which Elgin may or may not possess. Lastly, he's not the one who has to pay for the figure so he hasn't the same vested interest. Jay briscoe approved his head sculpt too, so that automatically disproves your theory that the wrestlers' approval equals the sculpt being good, because the jay sculpt is clearly very bad. |
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Post by RV F'N D on Jul 31, 2015 8:00:37 GMT -5
Did not expect an Elgin figure to be shown. Looks great! I think the bigger torso would work better but for what the company can do, its a good figure and a definite buy for me. The head does not look so big to me. Its funny to see some people hating on his sculpt when ftchris said before talent has a say in everything. That means Michael Elgin approved the Michael Elgin figure but its still not good enough for some people lol How does Elgin himself approving the figure relate to whether or not the sculpt is a good likeness? I think a lot of these guys are just happy to be getting a figure and a check (the figure, a first for most) and wouldn't want to offend the artist by saying "this sucks, go back to the drawing board!" What would qualify him to determine what constitutes a good head sculpt as compared those that are out on the market. The knowledgable, die hard collectors are probably more equipt to do that. Then there are those with a more artistic eye and a greater attention to detail which Elgin may or may not possess. Lastly, he's not the one who has to pay for the figure so he hasn't the same vested interest. Jay briscoe approved his head sculpt too, so that automatically disproves your theory that the wrestlers' approval equals the sculpt being good, because the jay sculpt is clearly very bad. Fact^ Also I noticed while we get some pretty detailed answers on some questions, the issue of the oversized head was completely dodged. Not a good sign to me. |
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