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Post by poindizzle on Feb 24, 2015 0:09:47 GMT -5
I think it is safe to assume the line is gone. So what 5 figures, unreleased or simply never made, disappoint you have never been released?
Gunner. Poor guy has been on the roster pretty much the entirety of Jakks run with TNA.
Robbie E. Same deal.
ODB. She would've been exceptionally unique.
Legends of the Ring Jim Cornette. See the Sig.
The Young Bucks. Never shown, but rumor had it that they had been scanned and left before figures could be produced.
Honorable mention to the two Anderstings. They looked promising and it was entertaining.
And while it isn't Jakks fault, Wounded Warrior Angle looked pretty awesome.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Feb 24, 2015 0:17:48 GMT -5
5 biggest mistakes of Deluxe Impact
5. Too much reliance on the big stars, no variety
4. Unwise distribution plan (should have gone with smaller numbers so they didn't rot and then getting taken off shelves)
3. No immediate plan for continuation of Classic line
2. Using the deluxe style at all instead of RA
1. Signing with Jakks in the first place
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Post by BCizzle on Feb 24, 2015 0:48:45 GMT -5
5 biggest mistakes of Deluxe Impact 5. Too much reliance on the big stars, no variety 4. Unwise distribution plan (should have gone with smaller numbers so they didn't rot and then getting taken off shelves) 3. No immediate plan for continuation of Classic line 2. Using the deluxe style at all instead of RA 1. Signing with Jakks in the first place So how could they make RA figures if they didn't sign with Jakks? How could they continue the Classic line if the didn't sign with Jakks? I know it's cool to bash Jakks, but your gripes just don't add up. |
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Post by TronViper on Feb 24, 2015 1:56:42 GMT -5
I love this line and I am sad to see it go. My Top 5 misses would be Gunner, Lashley, Bearded Eric Young, Samuel Shaw & The Wolves 2 pack.
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Post by poindizzle on Feb 24, 2015 7:20:39 GMT -5
5 biggest mistakes of Deluxe Impact 5. Too much reliance on the big stars, no variety 4. Unwise distribution plan (should have gone with smaller numbers so they didn't rot and then getting taken off shelves) 3. No immediate plan for continuation of Classic line 2. Using the deluxe style at all instead of RA 1. Signing with Jakks in the first place So how could they make RA figures if they didn't sign with Jakks? How could they continue the Classic line if the didn't sign with Jakks? I know it's cool to bash Jakks, but your gripes just don't add up. I am a Jakks fan, make no mistake. I don't know if TNA can support a toy line, and I don't know if it was truly one of the causes of the dissolution of ToyBiz (Marvel Toys). But signing with Jakks was a mistake of sorts.... Here's the thing. TNA not re-signing with ToyBiz was surely due to them seeing how amazing Jakks was performing with WWE product and they thought Jakks meant $$$. Classic mis-read of the signs. WWE means money. I'm pretty sure if I got the license and just put sticks in boxes and wrote "WWE" on it, and it was the only thing on the market, that it would sell. The death of ToyBiz might have already been in the cards, but then again, it might not. It was the sudden loss of licensing that sent them under, I just have no idea how critical TNA was to their survival. They were apparently pulling some structuring fuddy-duddy, and the Marvel Legends contract was with Hasbro for only 3 or 5 (pretty sure I read 3) years when it would revert to a freshly fixed Marvel Toys. The hard part is, I like Jakks product and I wouldn't change what I got, but ToyBiz's cancelled figures and final two waves were indicating that they were moving into near-perfection territory. What could have been with TNA is now haunting us twice. I doubt anyone else wants a crack at it. The Bridge Direct is a company comprised of former ToyBiz employees, and they made some really nice action figures. That would be close to having ToyBiz back, except they now handle WWE's construction set line. Playmates surely wants nothing to do with it after the failure of LLUSA, even though they could reuse those molds and they fit well in scale as well as the style of Jakks. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 13:07:12 GMT -5
So how could they make RA figures if they didn't sign with Jakks? How could they continue the Classic line if the didn't sign with Jakks? I know it's cool to bash Jakks, but your gripes just don't add up. I am a Jakks fan, make no mistake. I don't know if TNA can support a toy line, and I don't know if it was truly one of the causes of the dissolution of ToyBiz (Marvel Toys). But signing with Jakks was a mistake of sorts.... Here's the thing. TNA not re-signing with ToyBiz was surely due to them seeing how amazing Jakks was performing with WWE product and they thought Jakks meant $$$. Classic mis-read of the signs. WWE means money. I'm pretty sure if I got the license and just put sticks in boxes and wrote "WWE" on it, and it was the only thing on the market, that it would sell. The death of ToyBiz might have already been in the cards, but then again, it might not. It was the sudden loss of licensing that sent them under, I just have no idea how critical TNA was to their survival. They were apparently pulling some structuring fuddy-duddy, and the Marvel Legends contract was with Hasbro for only 3 or 5 (pretty sure I read 3) years when it would revert to a freshly fixed Marvel Toys. The hard part is, I like Jakks product and I wouldn't change what I got, but ToyBiz's cancelled figures and final two waves were indicating that they were moving into near-perfection territory. What could have been with TNA is now haunting us twice. I doubt anyone else wants a crack at it. The Bridge Direct is a company comprised of former ToyBiz employees, and they made some really nice action figures. That would be close to having ToyBiz back, except they now handle WWE's construction set line. Playmates surely wants nothing to do with it after the failure of LLUSA, even though they could reuse those molds and they fit well in scale as well as the style of Jakks. In January 2007, Hasbro purchased the exclusive right to manufacture and distribute toys based on Marvel Entertainment registered licenses. This meant that Toybiz could no longer make Marvel branded figures, so instead Toybiz made figures called Legendary Comic Heroes, based off of superheroes from non-Marvel branded comics. The line was a failure as it was officially announced at a convention in January 2008 that the line would cease production due to low sales. TNA and Curious George were the only two licenses left, and Toybiz had to go under since they weren't making any profit. Sad though, much like Jakks, Toybiz could have made TNA figures until December 2009 if it wasn't for their demise. |
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Post by TheXtremisT on Feb 24, 2015 15:15:34 GMT -5
On topic:
1. Gunner - he would have been so toyetic! The tats would have looked really nice, and Jakks stepped up their game with details like that (see Jeff Hardy, RVD...). They may have toned the amount down by having only 80% of his tats, but damn he'd have been a nice toy. But he's only become popular since teaming with Storm in 2013, already when Jakks were dead and produced 2 sets that year.
2. Young Bucks - again, toyetic due to their awesome attires. Easy use of parts (like Daniels), despite them being smaller than that base body.
3. Tommy Dreamer - 2010 look. They had most of the parts, just needed new lower legs for the shorts look.
4. Aces & 8s - they could have made at least 2! Again, they had the parts, just needed new jackets
5. ODB - Tats again! Opportunity for detail!
And I think Ink Inc should have seen their figures come out. Still pissed on that one.
Onto the Toybiz figures:
You're hitting on the right points, but strictly it was Marvel's decision to stop making toys.
Marvel sold the licensing for Marvel products, not just Legends to Hasbro. Toybiz was making them which meant no money generated for Marvel, because of their bankruptcy agreement among other reasons (during their implosion in the 90s). Marvel finally got income from Hasbro for the toys after 2007. They still owned the division of Toybiz that produced Legendary Comic Book Heroes and TNA toys (under the name Marvel Toys), but decided to get out of the game of toy making all together, just like they did with trading cards and other useless licenses.
So Marvel who actually owned Toybiz, were planning to get out of the toy industry since 2005, despite still selling lines other than Marvel Legends. It wasn't because of no/lack of profit. That came later on post the Marvel Toys rebranding, and just reinforced the fact they wanted to cut losses.
Marvel Legends were never going to come back to Toybiz/Marvel Toys, so I don't know where you got that info from.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 17:21:57 GMT -5
1.MVP-I just Don't see how they could pass this opportunity they could've gotten some money off of him.
2.Ethan Carter-He could've sold well IMO.
3.Low Ki-He would've been a cool figure to make.
4.Taryn Terrell
5.Bobby Lashley-He was TNA Champion for how long now? Come on now.
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Post by poindizzle on Feb 24, 2015 17:45:58 GMT -5
On topic: 1. Gunner - he would have been so toyetic! The tats would have looked really nice, and Jakks stepped up their game with details like that (see Jeff Hardy, RVD...). They may have toned the amount down by having only 80% of his tats, but damn he'd have been a nice toy. But he's only become popular since teaming with Storm in 2013, already when Jakks were dead and produced 2 sets that year. 2. Young Bucks - again, toyetic due to their awesome attires. Easy use of parts (like Daniels), despite them being smaller than that base body. 3. Tommy Dreamer - 2010 look. They had most of the parts, just needed new lower legs for the shorts look. 4. Aces & 8s - they could have made at least 2! Again, they had the parts, just needed new jackets 5. ODB - Tats again! Opportunity for detail! And I think Ink Inc should have seen their figures come out. Still pissed on that one. Onto the Toybiz figures: You're hitting on the right points, but strictly it was Marvel's decision to stop making toys. Marvel sold the licensing for Marvel products, not just Legends to Hasbro. Toybiz was making them which meant no money generated for Marvel, because of their bankruptcy agreement among other reasons (during their implosion in the 90s). Marvel finally got income from Hasbro for the toys after 2007. They still owned the division of Toybiz that produced Legendary Comic Book Heroes and TNA toys (under the name Marvel Toys), but decided to get out of the game of toy making all together, just like they did with trading cards and other useless licenses. So Marvel who actually owned Toybiz, were planning to get out of the toy industry since 2005, despite still selling lines other than Marvel Legends. It wasn't because of no/lack of profit. That came later on post the Marvel Toys rebranding, and just reinforced the fact they wanted to cut losses. Marvel Legends were never going to come back to Toybiz/Marvel Toys, so I don't know where you got that info from. Pretty sure I had read that in an old Fwoosh article. I also got the impression that it was Toybiz bailing marvel from the bankruptcy and securing Avi Arad a nice postition at Marvel. It's all most likely hearsay anyway. And it doesn't change the fact that they are gone. |
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Feb 24, 2015 17:55:00 GMT -5
5 biggest mistakes of Deluxe Impact 5. Too much reliance on the big stars, no variety 4. Unwise distribution plan (should have gone with smaller numbers so they didn't rot and then getting taken off shelves) 3. No immediate plan for continuation of Classic line 2. Using the deluxe style at all instead of RA 1. Signing with Jakks in the first place So how could they make RA figures if they didn't sign with Jakks? How could they continue the Classic line if the didn't sign with Jakks? I know it's cool to bash Jakks, but your gripes just don't add up. Note that I did them in descending order of importance... so 5 happened after 4 happened after 3 happened after 2 happened after 1 happened. |
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Post by poindizzle on Feb 24, 2015 18:04:29 GMT -5
On topic: 1. Gunner - he would have been so toyetic! The tats would have looked really nice, and Jakks stepped up their game with details like that (see Jeff Hardy, RVD...). They may have toned the amount down by having only 80% of his tats, but damn he'd have been a nice toy. But he's only become popular since teaming with Storm in 2013, already when Jakks were dead and produced 2 sets that year. 2. Young Bucks - again, toyetic due to their awesome attires. Easy use of parts (like Daniels), despite them being smaller than that base body. 3. Tommy Dreamer - 2010 look. They had most of the parts, just needed new lower legs for the shorts look. 4. Aces & 8s - they could have made at least 2! Again, they had the parts, just needed new jackets 5. ODB - Tats again! Opportunity for detail! And I think Ink Inc should have seen their figures come out. Still pissed on that one. Onto the Toybiz figures: You're hitting on the right points, but strictly it was Marvel's decision to stop making toys. Marvel sold the licensing for Marvel products, not just Legends to Hasbro. Toybiz was making them which meant no money generated for Marvel, because of their bankruptcy agreement among other reasons (during their implosion in the 90s). Marvel finally got income from Hasbro for the toys after 2007. They still owned the division of Toybiz that produced Legendary Comic Book Heroes and TNA toys (under the name Marvel Toys), but decided to get out of the game of toy making all together, just like they did with trading cards and other useless licenses. So Marvel who actually owned Toybiz, were planning to get out of the toy industry since 2005, despite still selling lines other than Marvel Legends. It wasn't because of no/lack of profit. That came later on post the Marvel Toys rebranding, and just reinforced the fact they wanted to cut losses. Marvel Legends were never going to come back to Toybiz/Marvel Toys, so I don't know where you got that info from. Pretty sure I had read that in an old Fwoosh article. I also got the impression that it was Toybiz bailing marvel from the bankruptcy and securing Avi Arad a nice postition at Marvel. It's all most likely hearsay anyway. And it doesn't change the fact that they are gone. This was an article I found about the subject. About halfway in it mentions ToyBiz's demise. I don't know where I thought I had read about Legends reverting at the end of the Hasbro license. This corroborates some of the points both you and I had made. The shame is that it is hard to find articles about what would be the end of an amazing toy manufacturer and an interesting read. thefwoosh.com/2013/09/the-ones-that-got-away-unreleased-marvel-legends |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 19:40:57 GMT -5
1. Eric Young. The guy has had the beard since 2011, and would have been a great seller during his World Title run.
2. Bobby Roode. Short Hair. Nuff Said.
3. Robbie E. Would have made a great, and very unique figure.
4. Mickie James. Some Knockouts collectors would kill for a DI Mickie
5. Gunner. Just a shame that Jakks haven't made him.
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Post by BROKEN on Feb 24, 2015 22:46:20 GMT -5
No the biggest disappointment was wounded warrior angle not releasing
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Post by BCizzle on Feb 25, 2015 1:21:05 GMT -5
There are so many guys (and gals) that I want, 5 just wouldn't cover it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 7:52:28 GMT -5
The biggest blow to the Jakks TNA line was when they decided to stop releasing new figures. No, seriously, Crimson got a figure but then all of a sudden it was just no more new names.
My Top 5 Wants they should have made but didn't/won't:
1) Ethan Carter III - arguably the best wrestler on their entire roster today. Also could have been in a two pack with Rockstar Spud at one point.
2) Samuel Shaw
3) Gunner
4) Bram
5) Low-Ki (He would've been gigantic like Amazing Red but I don't care)
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Feb 25, 2015 9:16:08 GMT -5
5.) No Knockouts Championship - Several Knockouts and almost every other TNA belt was made except for the KOs title.
4.) Tara - Her best head sculpt to date was unfortunately never released.
3.) 2012 Bobby Roode with new TNA world title
2.) Mickie James
1.) Awesome Kong - Too bad they didn't take the plunge and make one at the beginning of the line. What a figure it could've been.
Honorable mention to Dixie Carter of all people getting a figure before actual wrestlers...
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Post by jhardyfan4 on Feb 25, 2015 10:55:20 GMT -5
As a diva/knockout collector I'm annoyed that we didn't get awesome kong or taryn
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 12:05:49 GMT -5
1. The Micro Impact Play-set (http://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/tna_tf_fall09_45.jpg)
2. A real scale TNA ring, preferably six sides.
3. Ruthless Bobby Lashley (http://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/tna_tf_fall09_69.jpg)
4. I would have loved a Jeremy Borash!
5. Kevin Nash Flexims' style figure (http://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/tna_tf_fall09_67.jpg)
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Feb 25, 2015 12:47:13 GMT -5
Damn, forgot all about a real scale six sided ring. Was there a Jakks proto of one at a toy event or was that during the ToyBiz years?
Part of me would've liked a Don West figure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 14:35:52 GMT -5
Lashley, Christy, Taryn, Tara, Mickie, Kong, 2nd Gail, Tapa
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