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Post by PJ on Feb 24, 2015 20:30:12 GMT -5
i cant believe we're still on the "bryan isnt credible to lesnar thing" i will re-post this because FACT Eddie Guerrero: Height 5'8" Weight 220lbs Daniel Bryan: Height 5'10" Weight 210lbs and Lesnar was just as much of a "beast" then as is he now... the argument that Bryan isn't credible to Lesnar is completely and utterly wrong in EVERY possible way. But Eddie was known for lying, cheating and stealing and wasn't out for a year with a career threatening injury...Bryan is someone who doesn't cheat and has been out almost a year to injury. Big difference. Bryan vs anyone else I can believe, but not one on one vs Brock coming off an almost year long injury...that's just to much for me to believe. You need to ask yourself why isnt, Bryan vs Lesnar booked for WM? No, I don't. That question is 100% irrelevant. Why isn't it Orton vs Lesnar. Because that is the match I've wanted for years. But I'll take Orton vs Rollins.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Feb 24, 2015 20:36:48 GMT -5
You need to ask yourself why isnt, Bryan vs Lesnar booked for WM? Size means absolutely nothing & if we're being brutally honest and going by credibility, then no one should beat Brock Lesnar after what he's done in the last year. This. Period. Brock would beat the living tar out of everyone in that company in a real fight. Doesn't matter if it's El Torito or the Big Show. I believe Daniel Bryan would beat Roman Reigns in a legit fight. Just like Jericho did to Goldberg.
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Post by facemeat on Feb 24, 2015 20:36:44 GMT -5
Bryan literally JUST HAD an extremely competitive match with the guy who will go on to beat Lesnar. Within kayfabe, the Bryan/Roman match easily could have gone either way. So explain to me how Bryan can believably have a 50/50 match with the guy who will beat Lesnar, but can't be credible against Lesnar himself? This argument is just so ridiculous.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Feb 24, 2015 20:38:36 GMT -5
I once saw Davey Richards (who is much smaller than Bryan) wrestle an incredibly believable match against Cesaro (who is a gigantic human being). That match solidified that as long as two guys can work, any match can be believable.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Feb 24, 2015 20:51:34 GMT -5
i cant believe we're still on the "bryan isnt credible to lesnar thing" i will re-post this because FACT Eddie Guerrero: Height 5'8" Weight 220lbs Daniel Bryan: Height 5'10" Weight 210lbs and Lesnar was just as much of a "beast" then as is he now... the argument that Bryan isn't credible to Lesnar is completely and utterly wrong in EVERY possible way. But Eddie was known for lying, cheating and stealing and wasn't out for a year with a career threatening injury...Bryan is someone who doesn't cheat and has been out almost a year to injury. Big difference. Bryan vs anyone else I can believe, but not one on one vs Brock coming off an almost year long injury...that's just to much for me to believe. No, I don't. That question is 100% irrelevant. Why isn't it Orton vs Lesnar. Because that is the match I've wanted for years. But I'll take Orton vs Rollins. Bryan is 5'10?! I though he was 5'8
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:56:53 GMT -5
Never believe WWE when it comes to height and weight lol, he probably is 5'8 in real life. Not to mention when Stephanie also said he was 5'8 but then gets billed at 5'10.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 21:11:54 GMT -5
I'm growing tired of the debate of the main event of Wrestle Maina. I am one of the few who are outside of the sides. I don't mind either superstar. I will say though my opinion on Daniel Bryan has never changed since his indepent days. I respect his ability and his talent. I'm more than happy with his overall conduct toward the fans and his employers. However I do not care for the character the man portrays in sports entertainment. I cannot relate to the character and I do not care for it. Therefore I don't believe he has the overall package.
That is my opinion as a fan, from a business stand point I understand the choice to promote him. This also goes for John Cena, although I would actually pay to see John Cena because regardless of who he faces. The matches always have a big feel to them. I come from the 90's where Hulk Hogan was huge. No matter the match, he made the match feel important.
Now with that said, I feel that way about Regins. I would perfer a angry, vengeful, Roman. But we cannot have that in the Disney era of the product. The parents are in control of the content and that is understood. I have no issues with a parental guided product. Now so you all understand my stance, I want to see rising stars and current talent take that next step. Unfortenly until now with NXT we have to see this evole on television. Roman, Bryan, Cena, were no exception. No one has IT right away, Cena has had awful promos and moments. But he performed well at his first Maina and so will Roman.
Now for Brock Lesnar, I personally believe his health is a lot different than we believe and has been hidden really well on television and backstage. He is blown up and sluggish mid match. It's not because he is rusty because I have watched his training videos he produces. I think that dictates his scehulde and his work rate. If he walks out, there was more than any of us will ever know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 21:25:57 GMT -5
So what's the update?
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Feb 24, 2015 21:31:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 21:36:17 GMT -5
They spent a good 5 minutes brainstorming and added some filler.
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Post by BØRNS on Feb 24, 2015 21:42:52 GMT -5
I once saw Davey Richards (who is much smaller than Bryan) wrestle an incredibly believable match against Cesaro (who is a gigantic human being). That match solidified that as long as two guys can work, any match can be believable. Amen
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Post by famdamuxwl on Feb 24, 2015 21:43:40 GMT -5
I just got the INSIDE SCOOP! Apparently this went down. Roman went up to Brock backstage and said "Whud up baby gurl" instantly pissing him off. Causing him to leave the arena.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 24, 2015 21:48:02 GMT -5
I heard he took a crap and his intestines fell out.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 24, 2015 21:49:36 GMT -5
Something about Daniel Bryan can fight Brock Lesnar because Eddie Guerrero did.
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 24, 2015 22:05:56 GMT -5
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Post by Midnight on Feb 24, 2015 22:09:36 GMT -5
Yeah I didn't realize it until now that he wasn't on Raw and I got a notification from WWE saying he'd be there. I wonder whats going on.....
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Post by BROKEN on Feb 24, 2015 22:11:25 GMT -5
Maybe he doesn't want to drop belts
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Post by sitruC on Feb 24, 2015 22:11:44 GMT -5
All I learnt by reading this thread is that size doesn't matter, and I like that.
On topic, I wish Vince would sign Ken Shamrock to wrestle Brock at Mania and squash him.
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Post by Kyle - legendkilla2k9 on Feb 24, 2015 22:12:23 GMT -5
Such a vague report and yet people are jumping to conclusions that it has everything to do with Roman Reigns. First off Brock has most likely known since last year that he would be facing Roman Reigns at this years WM. It's not like WWE just sprung it on him suddenly. If most of Wfigs knew since last year, I'm sure Brock knew as well. And second, does anyone here actually think Brock gives two sh*ts who he wrestles as long as he is paid handsomely? They could tell him to go out and put Fernando over and I'm sure he would. He does not care about wrestling. Never did. Yeah I have to believe this has absolutely nothing to do with Reigns. I'm sure Brock would rather face Reigns than Daniel Bryan though to be completely honest. No way Brock would want to lose to a guy who is 5'9" and 180 lbs. Shawn Michaels was an inch taller than Bryan, would Brock have a problem losing to him? If Brock had any preferences in who he puts over, i'm sure he'd want it to be someone remotely over and established.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 22:30:24 GMT -5
"Mike Johnson of PWInsider is shedding a bit of light on the mysterious situation, noting that Brock Lesnar was visibly angry backstage, and may have even walked out of the Raw taping before it went off the air. Johnson was told it has nothing to do with creative plans heading into WrestleMania, but “something regarding his business relationship with WWE”.
Vince McMahon reportedly acknowledged the issue during a Smackdown production meeting earlier today, but didn’t say much. Regarding the WWE Champion, Lesnar flew into Nashville for Raw last night on his private plane, but returned home to Minnesota and will not be at tonight’s taping event. "
Probably about whether he'll be staying after Mania.
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