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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:05:07 GMT -5
This. You can build anybody to be "credible" if you want to. They could legitimately build a guy like Ryder as a threat within a few months with the right booking. Anybody and everybody can be credible in professional wrestling. I don't buy that at all. I am 6'5" 47 year old with a serious back injury and can tell you I look at a guy like Brock and believe he'd destroy me. But then there's Rusev who probably could destroy me also, but when I watch him I just don't believe it. I don't believe he's this monster who could beat me let alone 90% of the roster. And he's been being built as an unbeatable monster for how long? Okay, it shouldn't have to be stated, but there are limits to it. You're right. A 47 year old with back issues is not believable to beat Lesnar. Somebody who's actually in their prime, and has beaten people who have beaten Lesnar before, it's more than believable he could beat Lesnar. You don't like Rusev, you've made that clear, good for you. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:05:35 GMT -5
This. You can build anybody to be "credible" if you want to. They could legitimately build a guy like Ryder as a threat within a few months with the right booking. Anybody and everybody can be credible in professional wrestling. I don't buy that at all. I am 6'5" 47 year old with a serious back injury and can tell you I look at a guy like Brock and believe he'd destroy me. But then there's Rusev who probably could destroy me also, but when I watch him I just don't believe it. I don't believe he's this monster who could beat me let alone 90% of the roster. And he's been being built as an unbeatable monster for how long? Lesnar's build up as a monster and Rusev's aren't even close to comparable - had Rusev beat John Cena in 5 minutes after 16 German suplexes then you could compare them. Which goes back to how booking can make anyone credible. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 24, 2015 20:07:26 GMT -5
LOL. You just dont get it. Other way around, broski. You need to ask yourself why isnt, Bryan vs Lesnar booked for WM? |
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Post by attitudesback on Feb 24, 2015 20:07:36 GMT -5
Booking is how you make these people credible. Well, in everyone but Roman's case it seems! I guess he hasn't been booked brilliantly in his defence now that I think about it..
But is this legit? I remember thinking why isn't Lesnar here, but this could be dirt sheet speculation which is most of the time garbage.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:09:14 GMT -5
Other way around, broski. You need to ask yourself why isnt, Bryan vs Lesnar booked for WM? Size means absolutely nothing & if we're being brutally honest and going by credibility, then no one should beat Brock Lesnar after what he's done in the last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:09:24 GMT -5
Other way around, broski. You need to ask yourself why isnt, Bryan vs Lesnar booked for WM? No, I don't. That question is 100% irrelevant. Why isn't it Orton vs Lesnar, or Kane vs Lesnar or Anyone else vs Lesnar. Is nobody believable? Dumb question to ask myself. |
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Post by E-Noon on Feb 24, 2015 20:09:44 GMT -5
Other way around, broski. You need to ask yourself why isnt, Bryan vs Lesnar booked for WM? Vince McMahon. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 24, 2015 20:11:16 GMT -5
Are people still saying that it isn't believeable that Bryan can beat Brock? Seriously? The reason why it's believable that Bryan could beat Brock is very, very simple: he can out-wrestle him. Who was the last guy to nearly beat Brock before he got the mega-push? That skinny-fatass from Chicago. How? By out-wrestling Brock - in fact, he would've won without Heyman's interference. Of course Bryan can't match Brock's power - which is why it's laughable to me that people say Roman beating him is MORE believable, since that's his whole offense - but Bryan can take out a body part, and wear down The Beast (just like Eddie Guerrero). If anything, the thought that Roman can out-muscle Lesnar, when he made Super Cena look like a little bitch, is the far more outlandish idea. hehehe. Yet he aint booked to fight Lesnar at Mania, is he? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:11:55 GMT -5
Are people still saying that it isn't believeable that Bryan can beat Brock? Seriously? The reason why it's believable that Bryan could beat Brock is very, very simple: he can out-wrestle him. Who was the last guy to nearly beat Brock before he got the mega-push? That skinny-fatass from Chicago. How? By out-wrestling Brock - in fact, he would've won without Heyman's interference. Of course Bryan can't match Brock's power - which is why it's laughable to me that people say Roman beating him is MORE believable, since that's his whole offense - but Bryan can take out a body part, and wear down The Beast (just like Eddie Guerrero). If anything, the thought that Roman can out-muscle Lesnar, when he made Super Cena look like a little bitch, is the far more outlandish idea. hehehe. Yet he aint booked to fight Lesnar at Mania, is he? You have such a non argument it's really not even worth debating anymore. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 24, 2015 20:17:13 GMT -5
You need to ask yourself why isnt, Bryan vs Lesnar booked for WM? No, I don't. That question is 100% irrelevant. Why isn't it Orton vs Lesnar, or Kane vs Lesnar or Anyone else vs Lesnar. Is nobody believable? Dumb question to ask myself. Because my whole argument was based around why Bryan wont be facing Lesnar at Mania lol. Answer it, im waiting. |
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Post by PJ on Feb 24, 2015 20:18:35 GMT -5
I don't buy that at all. I am 6'5" 47 year old with a serious back injury and can tell you I look at a guy like Brock and believe he'd destroy me. But then there's Rusev who probably could destroy me also, but when I watch him I just don't believe it. I don't believe he's this monster who could beat me let alone 90% of the roster. And he's been being built as an unbeatable monster for how long? Okay, it shouldn't have to be stated, but there are limits to it. You're right. A 47 year old with back issues is not believable to beat Lesnar. Somebody who's actually in their prime, and has beaten people who have beaten Lesnar before, it's more than believable he could beat Lesnar. You don't like Rusev, you've made that clear, good for you. The reason I don't like him is because I don't believe him as this unstoppable monster. He doesn't come off in the ring as that. And because I'm not feeling that I don't connect with him. When I watch him I feel if I was ever to get in a fight with him I could beat him so I don't see unbeatable monster. As for Bryan again he has been out with a near career ending neck injury...Brock was an NCAA champion and UFC champion so no I don't believe Bryan could beat him. And if they did have Bryan beat Brock cleanly Bryan would never be the underdog again which is his a big part of his appeal. |
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Feb 24, 2015 20:19:02 GMT -5
hehehe. Yet he aint booked to fight Lesnar at Mania, is he? You have such a non argument it's really not even worth debating anymore. Not at all, go back to my original argument. Like I said you completely dont get it. Once you do, answer it and tell me why arent we seeing Bryan vs Lesnar at Mania and stop dodging the question. I gave my reason so let me hear yours. |
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Post by E-Noon on Feb 24, 2015 20:19:11 GMT -5
No, I don't. That question is 100% irrelevant. Why isn't it Orton vs Lesnar, or Kane vs Lesnar or Anyone else vs Lesnar. Is nobody believable? Dumb question to ask myself. Because my whole argument was based around why Bryan wont be facing Lesnar at Mania lol. Answer it, im waiting. Vince McMahon. He had his guy picked out a year ago. It's why Bryan had such a poor showing at RR. He knew its what the fans wanted. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:19:30 GMT -5
No, I don't. That question is 100% irrelevant. Why isn't it Orton vs Lesnar, or Kane vs Lesnar or Anyone else vs Lesnar. Is nobody believable? Dumb question to ask myself. Because my whole argument was based around why Bryan wont be facing Lesnar at Mania lol. Answer it, im waiting. The answer is because Vince doesn't want a complete repeat of last year with Daniel Bryan winning the main event on the grandest stage of them all, that is the answer! it has nothing to do with credibility, size or any of that crap. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:19:55 GMT -5
No, I don't. That question is 100% irrelevant. Why isn't it Orton vs Lesnar, or Kane vs Lesnar or Anyone else vs Lesnar. Is nobody believable? Dumb question to ask myself. Because my whole argument was based around why Bryan wont be facing Lesnar at Mania lol. Answer it, im waiting. Because Roman is Vince's Golden Boy. Now I'll ask again. Why isn't Orton, Kane, Rollins, Show, Ambrose, Cesaro, Ryback, Rusev, Cena or anybody else facing Lesnar? Are they not believable? Your argument is so baseless that I see no purpose in continuing this discussion. |
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Post by IRS on Feb 24, 2015 20:20:33 GMT -5
hehehe. Yet he aint booked to fight Lesnar at Mania, is he? I'm sure that has nothing to do with the guy running the company being a blind, old fool... Oh, wait a minute... |
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Post by Chip on Feb 24, 2015 20:21:01 GMT -5
i cant believe we're still on the "bryan isnt credible to lesnar thing"
i will re-post this because FACT
Eddie Guerrero:
Height 5'8"
Weight 220lbs
Daniel Bryan:
Height 5'10"
Weight 210lbs
and Lesnar was just as much of a "beast" then as is he now...
the argument that Bryan isn't credible to Lesnar is completely and utterly wrong in EVERY possible way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 20:21:49 GMT -5
i cant believe we're still on the "bryan isnt credible to lesnar thing" i will re-post this because FACT Eddie Guerrero: Height 5'8" Weight 220lbs Daniel Bryan: Height 5'10" Weight 210lbs and Lesnar was just as much of a "beast" then as is he now... the argument that Bryan isn't credible to Lesnar is completely and utterly wrong in EVERY possible way. I'm convinced people are trolling at this point. |
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Post by E-Noon on Feb 24, 2015 20:23:04 GMT -5
Try not use too much logic guys.
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Post by Jaz on Feb 24, 2015 20:26:32 GMT -5
Bryan's entire character is an underdog.
Of course he could beat Lesnar and it would be believable.
It's wrestling.
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