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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 3:37:52 GMT -5
Haha! You really don't know do you? My god, you don't ing get it. No wonder you're defending DeMott.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 3:38:39 GMT -5
Haha! You really don't know do you? 404 ERROR FACE
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 4, 2015 3:39:28 GMT -5
This thread is full of examples of why victims of abuse are known to never speak out against the abuse. The fact that people are blaming the victims (calling them attention whores for one example) or passing this off as him making them tough is disgusting. I'm not saying that everything that people are saying is 100% true. However.. where there is smoke.. there is normally something on f***ing fire. You don't have this many people speaking out against someone and people backing up stories without some of these incidents happening. Save me this bulls*** about the WWE doing an investigation. They investigated themselves ffs!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 3:42:09 GMT -5
People defending Bill DeMott are like: "Oh I killed this guy, but don't worry because I only shot him, other people get killed way worse".
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 3:43:18 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that until someone with credibility speaks up, there's nothing that should be done. Everyone who has spoken out has been someone who would have reason for sour grapes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 3:44:06 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that until someone with credibility speaks up, there's nothing that should be done. Everyone who has spoken out has been someone who would have reason for sour grapes. If Rusev says anything his job could be in jeopardy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 3:45:00 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that until someone with credibility speaks up, there's nothing that should be done. Everyone who has spoken out has been someone who would have reason for sour grapes. Because anyone on the roster speaking out risks their ing job. How do you not get this? Claims being backed up by multiple sources ARE CREDIBLE. This is just astonishing I'm gonna stop here before I get myself banned, try using logic.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 3:47:17 GMT -5
See, I think that with his position he'd be safe. If it were some undercard guy then I'd totally agree with you, but with so much invested in him I don't him coming out and saying, "Yeah, that happened." would get him in trouble.
I don't understand why you're getting so worked up man... There's video. There's hundreds of other workers who've been through the system who haven't backed the stories up... So if there's 4 people saying something happened and 200 saying it didn't, someone should lose their job because of it?
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Post by slappy on Mar 4, 2015 3:49:45 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that until someone with credibility speaks up, there's nothing that should be done. Everyone who has spoken out has been someone who would have reason for sour grapes. If I was treated how DeMott treated them I'd be ing bitter too.
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 4, 2015 3:56:22 GMT -5
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 4:02:49 GMT -5
lol! I'm not condoning questioning someone's sexual preference because they're not tough enough to work through a dislocated finger. I'm just saying that do you really think that in a post Be a Star world that they would let this go on? Do you really think that after this all came out that they didn't immediately check the tapes of the last few months to make sure he wasn't turning the cameras off? I'm not even saying that the people speaking out right now are lying, I'm just stating the obvious; The people coming out publicly are guys that have been released.
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 4, 2015 4:15:20 GMT -5
lol! I'm not condoning questioning someone's sexual preference because they're not tough enough to work through a dislocated finger. I'm just saying that do you really think that in a post Be a Star world that they would let this go on? Do you really think that after this all came out that they didn't immediately check the tapes of the last few months to make sure he wasn't turning the cameras off? I'm not even saying that the people speaking out right now are lying, I'm just stating the obvious; The people coming out publicly are guys that have been released. I think that Triple H hand-picking Demott for the trainer despite his track record of similar bullying incidents and then proceeding to fire him for those same exact reasons would reflect horrible on him. I think that Triple H would do anything in his power to keep from looking like a fool for hiring Demott and having his 'project' at NXT looking like a complete s*** show because of this. The cameras and the self-investigation don't mean anything when someone in power doesn't want to look incompetent.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 4:23:59 GMT -5
Oh, I didn't know that HHH was the one that did the investigation, thanks for clearing that up.
And hey, let me make something clear; If someone with credibility comes out tomorrow and confirms all of this stuff then I'm all for giving Demott the boot. But the fact that there's 70 other guys and gals who've been given their walking papers aren't coming out against him carries some weight.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 4, 2015 4:26:00 GMT -5
The people defending Demott kinda remind me of the people that were defending Chris Benoit after he murdered his family. "Sure he mercilessly slaughtered a woman and a child but have you seen his diving headbutt?" I am so tempted to make a political joke here.
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Post by screech on Mar 4, 2015 4:28:14 GMT -5
See, I think that with his position he'd be safe. If it were some undercard guy then I'd totally agree with you, but with so much invested in him I don't him coming out and saying, "Yeah, that happened." would get him in trouble. I don't understand why you're getting so worked up man... There's video. There's hundreds of other workers who've been through the system who haven't backed the stories up... So if there's 4 people saying something happened and 200 saying it didn't, someone should lose their job because of it? There's a huge difference between someone choosing not to open up their mouth about the situation and your example of "200 saying it didn't". Just saying lol.
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Post by SodaGuy on Mar 4, 2015 4:31:02 GMT -5
People give me a headache. I also currently hate myself for being stupid enough to open this thread and expect anything different than what I got.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 4:34:18 GMT -5
See, I think that with his position he'd be safe. If it were some undercard guy then I'd totally agree with you, but with so much invested in him I don't him coming out and saying, "Yeah, that happened." would get him in trouble. I don't understand why you're getting so worked up man... There's video. There's hundreds of other workers who've been through the system who haven't backed the stories up... So if there's 4 people saying something happened and 200 saying it didn't, someone should lose their job because of it? There's a huge difference between someone choosing not to open up their mouth about the situation and your example of "200 saying it didn't". Just saying lol. No no, you're totally right man. But I do find it hard to believe that the office didn't ask everyone they could when they were looking into this. And I think it's funny to for someone to say that even if others backed up the story that HHH has the ability to make all of those comments go away. But you are right, there is a big difference between saying it didn't happen and not saying anything at all. I just think that there were plenty of people interviewed eternally.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Mar 4, 2015 4:36:43 GMT -5
Oh, I didn't know that HHH was the one that did the investigation, thanks for clearing that up. And hey, let me make something clear; If someone with credibility comes out tomorrow and confirms all of this stuff then I'm all for giving Demott the boot. But the fact that there's 70 other guys and gals who've been given their walking papers aren't coming out against him carries some weight. It carries about as much weight as Demott's own career as a successful wrestler. As mentioned earlier by others, if you had any clear understanding of essentially victim blaming you wouldn't think we need "someone with credibility." MVP had a successful run and has spoken up. So what if someone was fired? How do we know these complaints aren't part of that reason? WWE seems pretty damn good at glossing over negatives.
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Post by Word™ on Mar 4, 2015 4:46:45 GMT -5
Haha! You really don't know do you? No dude, I don't think you really know. Stop trying to act high and mighty about your "knowledge" of the free kick and understand that no ing athlete should have to be KICKED IN THE ING FACE to prepare for a soccer game .... JUNIOR VARSITY SOCCER GAME.. That is unethical and bad coaching. Oh.. And "Getting the sh*t kicked out of you and having your sexuality questioned is something that every freshman football player goes through." Uhhh, not me.. Or any other ALL STATE football athletes I played with and against across my city and state.. Or any other football players that I've ever talked to. Your school sounds terrible.. And that is absolutely not up for debate or conversation.. And if you're questioning your sexuality when you're a freshman football player, it was absolutely NOT because of freshman football. Getting kicked in the face... Jesus man, give me a break.
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 4:52:51 GMT -5
Oh, I didn't know that HHH was the one that did the investigation, thanks for clearing that up. And hey, let me make something clear; If someone with credibility comes out tomorrow and confirms all of this stuff then I'm all for giving Demott the boot. But the fact that there's 70 other guys and gals who've been given their walking papers aren't coming out against him carries some weight. It carries about as much weight as Demott's own career as a successful wrestler. As mentioned earlier by others, if you had any clear understanding of essentially victim blaming you wouldn't think we need "someone with credibility." MVP had a successful run and has spoken up. So what if someone was fired? How do we know these complaints aren't part of that reason? WWE seems pretty damn good at glossing over negatives. I'm not mad or anything, but I'm not victim shaming in any way shape or form. There's video cameras set up down there man. There's other witnesses who have no doubt been interviewed about the situation. Calling me a victim blamer just because you disagree with me is unfair. And what's funny is that I'm not even taking DeMott's side, I'm just pointing out that they've viewed the footage, they've interviewed the talent, and that they found that DeMott didn't deserve to get fired for it. Blame it on HHH, blame it on the atmosphere of the company, but the fact of the matter is that the WWE feels that they have enough ammo against the media, the band wagoners, and the stock holders if they ever get called out on the situation. Still! If credible evidence comes out, then boot that dude to the curb.
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