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Post by wyleecyotee on Mar 4, 2015 5:03:00 GMT -5
I can understand tough training and pugs in people but it does sound like Demott is overly harsh on people. I wonder how many have stood up to him an what approach he takes with people that do. lol... Why would they not practice something that happens in games? Are you sure you know what a free kick is? Y'know, the defense lines up in front of the person kicking... covers their genitals with their hands? Why would you not practice that? Your doing it wrong if there being forced to take balls to the face (tehe). |
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Post by Gazza on Mar 4, 2015 5:13:00 GMT -5
Not only is he a huge dick, I'm confused by how someone who was so bad in the ring can be a head trainer.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Mar 4, 2015 5:18:26 GMT -5
Not only is he a huge dick, I'm confused by how someone who was so bad in the ring can be a head trainer. I'm guessing he's good at teaching it, a lot like quite a few football managers didn't have a great playing career but are much better at actually coaching the game. Although Demott doesn't strike me as someone that clued on to wrestling. |
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Post by Gazza on Mar 4, 2015 5:20:34 GMT -5
Not only is he a huge dick, I'm confused by how someone who was so bad in the ring can be a head trainer. I'm guessing he's good at teaching it, a lot like quite a few football managers didn't have a great playing career but are much better at actually coaching the game. Although Demott doesn't strike me as someone that clued on to wrestling. Well if these stories are true apparently not, but I do get your point. |
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 5:22:21 GMT -5
Not only is he a huge dick, I'm confused by how someone who was so bad in the ring can be a head trainer. Dude, I've been wondering that since he was hired. I totally understand the need for a "drill instructor" type in the system. I mean, having someone who's going to constantly be pushing the trainees mentally is a must in the wrestling world. But Holly was 10x the worker DeMott was. |
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Post by greenjack1992 on Mar 4, 2015 6:06:04 GMT -5
One of these guys should drop him on his head.
I'm not surprised the NXT 5 don't go to drills etc as posted a few weeks ago, if I was as experienced as any of them and walked into a session to see Bill DeMott trying to hurt all the students, I'd turn around and walk straight back out.
What.
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Arsehole.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 6:25:32 GMT -5
You guys do know that a full investigation happened don't you? I'd assume that the guys complaining weren't trained correctly and probably had limited athletic backgrounds. Jericho pointing out that his training was 10,00 times harder might be flirting with hyperbole, but those f*cks in Florida are getting trained with headgear and in rings that are 10 times softer than the old WWF rings. I'd love to see what these attention whores would have to say about the old New Japan dojo, or worse yet, the old Joshi dojo system. Have any of you seen that Gaea Girls documentary? That was the greatest dropkick I've ever seen. I've been laughing about/at this all morning. Such a perfect dropkick delivered in such a nasty way. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 10:11:38 GMT -5
What's the stuff about Grey? Was he abused as a child or something?
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Post by RybackV1 on Mar 4, 2015 10:20:03 GMT -5
Do we remember the incident from a few years back? When he made the two male students wrestle completely naked. And the one had to give the other a stink face.
I was stunned he wasn't fired after that story leaked. Now all of this is coming out. The son of a bitch needs to go.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Mar 4, 2015 10:55:23 GMT -5
It carries about as much weight as Demott's own career as a successful wrestler. As mentioned earlier by others, if you had any clear understanding of essentially victim blaming you wouldn't think we need "someone with credibility." MVP had a successful run and has spoken up. So what if someone was fired? How do we know these complaints aren't part of that reason? WWE seems pretty damn good at glossing over negatives. I'm not mad or anything, but I'm not victim shaming in any way shape or form. There's video cameras set up down there man. There's other witnesses who have no doubt been interviewed about the situation. Calling me a victim blamer just because you disagree with me is unfair. And what's funny is that I'm not even taking DeMott's side, I'm just pointing out that they've viewed the footage, they've interviewed the talent, and that they found that DeMott didn't deserve to get fired for it. Blame it on HHH, blame it on the atmosphere of the company, but the fact of the matter is that the WWE feels that they have enough ammo against the media, the band wagoners, and the stock holders if they ever get called out on the situation. Still! If credible evidence comes out, then boot that dude to the curb. I believe Briley Pierce has stated that WWE said they interviewed him about it and he denied that. Allow me to use an analogy to how your thinking comes across to me. I live in town that's current the title of a Jon Krakauer book. For A LONG TIME, my town had(probably "has" is still correct) a massive sexual assault problem. The police didn't take them seriously, brushing incidents off as "lol kids". The city attorney had literally used the phrase "boys will be be boys" in statements. The University shoved it under a rug. Even allowing a foreign exchange student to go home to Dubai after being caught on camera assaulting women. But why did all of this go on? Because everyone insisted "well there isn't enough evidence". If you're hiding the  ing evidence and not looking into reports then there's no ing evidence. It's like the "well what about all the false rape allegations?" argument. It falls somewhere around 2% usually. Super low. Your need for 'credible evidence' will never come to fruition because WWE likes things the way they are. Quit a few wrestlers have spoken to this, all fired, probably partially because they don't like WWE's attitude toward people. I get you want to believe in some sort of due process/proven until guilty system. It doesn't exist here. I'm not saying you're on Demott's side. I just want to try and show you a realistic perspective of how all this happens and nothing happens to people because of a bullsh*t old boy network. |
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 11:38:11 GMT -5
Do we remember the incident from a few years back? When he made the two male students wrestle completely naked. And the one had to give the other a stink face. I was stunned he wasn't fired after that story leaked. Now all of this is coming out. The son of a bitch needs to go. Devon Nicholson to Dave Meltzer Even with everyone agreeing and DeMott seemingly making up this sickening "game" thinking that they'd never go for it, if DeMott wasn't at least given a stern lecture about this sort of stuff happening then that's f*cked up. Wato Stan Account That's very sad situations indeed, but likening DeMott's coaching style to rape is just... It's really not the best thing to compare it to man. And of course the "innocent until proven guilty" standard applies here. That system has been around since at least the 6th century. It's part of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Obviously since the company itself did the investigation it's more than fair to question the legitimacy of said investigation, but personally, I believe in a post "Be a Star" world that it would be idiotic for the company to try to cover something like this up... That being said, I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep of credible evidence came out against DeMott and he was fired. But this really comes across as more of a "Nailz" type situation as opposed to a "Mel Phillips" situation. Yeah, I think the odds aren't in General Rection's favor anymore. I personally know Brian Breaker and if Harley's pissed about something, he'll defiantly no hesitate to let the office know. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Mar 4, 2015 13:45:45 GMT -5
By boiling my point down to saying I'm just "likening it to rape" is 100% missing the analogy. It's about the idea that people in power choose to ignore issues. CM Punk called out "Be A Star" while IN WWE. If WWE can ignore Bill Demott being a piece of sh*t. I would hate to hear anything else they blatantly ignore.
I'm clearly not going to change your mind on certain ideas because point A is hitting C and you're seeming to miss B.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 14:18:35 GMT -5
And this was by a guy who was employed at the time. So much for sour grapes. |
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Post by Hitman Bono on Mar 4, 2015 15:18:05 GMT -5
And this was by a guy who was employed at the time. So much for sour grapes. Huh? Who was employed where? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 15:23:59 GMT -5
And this was by a guy who was employed at the time. So much for sour grapes. Huh? Who was employed where? I quoted the wrong link. Here's a letter from a guy that he wrote to WWE while he was employed before he was released two months later. |
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Post by xavion2004 on Mar 4, 2015 16:13:18 GMT -5
Because of a fear of losing, for some,their possible one and only shot at their dream job. This is exactly why. But when you have a bully that owns the company, this type of behavior is probably encouraged. Vince, Hunter, and Hugh Morrus are sadly all insecure little men. I think that pretty much sums it all up. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 17:29:38 GMT -5
What's the stuff about Grey? Was he abused as a child or something? His real name is Joel Pettyfer |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 17:34:18 GMT -5
What's the stuff about Grey? Was he abused as a child or something? His real name is Joel Pettyfer So, he's making fun of his surname? Ah, I get it now. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2015 21:24:28 GMT -5
Bob Holly, the take no bullshit, kick your ass Bob Holly, spoke about the controversy. He held a seminar a few months ago and said there were 2 former NXT guys saying the same thing as to what's being said now. Even Hardcore Holly doesn't condone what DeMott is accused of doing.
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lol... Why would they not practice something that happens in games? Are you sure you know what a free kick is? Y'know, the defense lines up in front of the person kicking... covers their genitals with their hands? Why would you not practice that?
