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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 14:20:48 GMT -5
Nobody is giving Taker crap.
I said he owes us nothing. I agree he has earned the right to have any schedule he pleases.
We all agree on these things.
The point I've been trying to make since the first post is that although we are fully aware of these things, it would be nice for him to have more involvement in these programs such as Bray Wyatt leading into Wrestlemania and Brock Lesnar post-Summerslam.
That being said, I have no clue what the post-Summerslam plans are going to be. I just know I read that Taker has flown back to Texas already and clearly won't be appearing on Raw. I just feel that considering the controversial finish, it would be nice for him to be on Raw.
That is all. Nothing more.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 24, 2015 14:20:58 GMT -5
Something else I find really ing funny Mania 30: Just about every one of you were going bat$hit crazy. "WHAT THE WHY LESNAR WHY HAVE THE STREAK END" Summer slam 2015: The roles are reversed. "God get old man Taker outta here, Lesnar is the real monster " Did it not work exactly how they wanted it to? I had said it since the very night the streak ended. Lesnar is the new phenom. He's the guy everyone wants to see now. He's the untouchable monster. Taker passed that torch to Brock. And now we all perceive Brock EXACTLY how WWE wanted us to when they booked him to beat the streak. I remember the night it happened, that I wasn't pleased. Once the shock of it happening wore off, it became clear to me that it was easily the right decision. Brock should have ended the streak. Then with the way Brock was booked over the last two years, there was zero reason for Undertaker to ever be the one to beat him. That's just dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 14:22:33 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 24, 2015 14:22:45 GMT -5
Taker has earned any schedule he pleases at this point. Brock is surprising me though. I honestly feel like he's got some new fire lit under his ass, and is really really enjoying WWE this time around. I have a feeling we will see more and more of him throughout the next few years. I've noticed this lately too. I feel like Brock is enjoying himself more and more this time around. He's definitely appearing more frequently this year then previous years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 14:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 24, 2015 14:24:27 GMT -5
Something else I find really ing funny Mania 30: Just about every one of you were going bat$hit crazy. "WHAT THE WHY LESNAR WHY HAVE THE STREAK END" Summer slam 2015: The roles are reversed. "God get old man Taker outta here, Lesnar is the real monster " Did it not work exactly how they wanted it to? I had said it since the very night the streak ended. Lesnar is the new phenom. He's the guy everyone wants to see now. He's the untouchable monster. Taker passed that torch to Brock. And now we all perceive Brock EXACTLY how WWE wanted us to when they booked him to beat the streak. Sorry for the double post but damn you are on a roll in this thread. VERY true post.
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 24, 2015 14:25:13 GMT -5
Something else I find really ing funny Mania 30: Just about every one of you were going bat$hit crazy. "WHAT THE WHY LESNAR WHY HAVE THE STREAK END" Summer slam 2015: The roles are reversed. "God get old man Taker outta here, Lesnar is the real monster " Did it not work exactly how they wanted it to? I had said it since the very night the streak ended. Lesnar is the new phenom. He's the guy everyone wants to see now. He's the untouchable monster. Taker passed that torch to Brock. And now we all perceive Brock EXACTLY how WWE wanted us to when they booked him to beat the streak. I remember the night it happened, that I wasn't pleased. Once the shock of it happening wore off, it became clear to me that it was easily the right decision. Brock should have ended the streak. Then with the way Brock was booked over the last two years, there was zero reason for Undertaker to ever be the one to beat him. That's just dumb. That rub was supposed to go to Reigns. At WM31. But the fans turned on him and they had to go the other route. So I see it as Rollins who got that rub (even though he never beat Lesnar ) Lesnar still hasn't been "beat" since he ended the streak. Sure he was the loser in the books last night , but it was clear as day he made taker tap first. It was an insanely screwy finish, and booked amazingly well. Both men came out looking amazing imo
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 24, 2015 14:26:15 GMT -5
Nobody is giving Taker crap. I said he owes us nothing. I agree he has earned the right to have any schedule he pleases. We all agree on these things. The point I've been trying to make since the first post is that although we are fully aware of these things, it would be nice for him to have more involvement in these programs such as Bray Wyatt leading into Wrestlemania and Brock Lesnar post-Summerslam.That being said, I have no clue what the post-Summerslam plans are going to be. I just know I read that Taker has flown back to Texas already and clearly won't be appearing on Raw. I just feel that considering the controversial finish, it would be nice for him to be on Raw. That is all. Nothing more. Can't argue with you at all there, this just reeks of a rubber-match between Taker and Brock, and I hope Taker doesn't just disappear until weeks before WM. That is getting old for sure.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 24, 2015 14:26:52 GMT -5
I remember the night it happened, that I wasn't pleased. Once the shock of it happening wore off, it became clear to me that it was easily the right decision. Brock should have ended the streak. Then with the way Brock was booked over the last two years, there was zero reason for Undertaker to ever be the one to beat him. That's just dumb. That rub was supposed to go to Reigns. At WM31. But the fans turned on him and they had to go the other route. So I see it as Rollins who got that rub (even though he never beat Lesnar ) Lesnar still hasn't been "beat" since he ended the streak. Sure he was the loser in the books last night , but it was clear as day he made taker tap first. It was an insanely screwy finish, and booked amazingly well. Both men came out looking amazing imo Undertaker came off as a crazy old man that needed to cheat to beat Brock and he tapped out. He looks worse than he would have if Brock had just flat out beaten him.
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 24, 2015 14:28:53 GMT -5
That rub was supposed to go to Reigns. At WM31. But the fans turned on him and they had to go the other route. So I see it as Rollins who got that rub (even though he never beat Lesnar ) Lesnar still hasn't been "beat" since he ended the streak. Sure he was the loser in the books last night , but it was clear as day he made taker tap first. It was an insanely screwy finish, and booked amazingly well. Both men came out looking amazing imo Undertaker came off as a crazy old man that needed to cheat to beat Brock and he tapped out. He looks worse than he would have if Brock had just flat out beaten him. That's what he's admittedly going for though. The "vengeful cold grim reaper" stuff is basically him Saying "yeah I'm an old man who's been driven over the edge " and he's playing that character insanely well. He came off looking like a washed up old man at WM30. Last night he proved he's not even close to that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 14:32:21 GMT -5
I agree 100%. Taker is my all time favourite, but him not being on RAW after how the match ended last night is a mistake. Taker & Lesnar need a confrontation tonight. Hell, if it was up to me I'd book their final match to be at Hell in a Cell in October. If there's any feud right now that's worthy of a Cell match, it's Taker/Lesnar
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Aug 24, 2015 14:35:41 GMT -5
Unfortunately I'm an Undertaker guy, and he can't doing any wrong in my eyes.
I do find his logic a little batty though... Sheild takes him out, no revenge. Brock Lesnar breaks the streak. Undertaker beats Wyatt Undertakers seeks revenge on Lesnar 15months after his loss.. seems like the undertaker doesn't go for revenge straight away seems to build himself up to it haha
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 14:37:51 GMT -5
I love The Undertaker, he is one of the greatest superstars of all time and like you said, owes us absolutely nothing. However, I do agree that something tonight to progress the feud - even just a little - would be nice.
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Post by Himmy! on Aug 24, 2015 15:09:25 GMT -5
I really hope this is Undertaker's final run. I just don't enjoy him much anymore. I like that he only comes back once a year, it's a bit more special. However the past couple of years I haven't enjoyed his returns and he really is ageing. I worry for the guys safety!
One more, maybe two at a stretch matches and I'd like to see the door closed on an incredible career.
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Post by Chief on Aug 24, 2015 15:18:22 GMT -5
You take the good, you take the bad, you take it all and there you have the facts of life.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Aug 24, 2015 15:25:46 GMT -5
Sucks Taker won't be at RAW....but the match last night was AWESOME.
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 24, 2015 15:29:39 GMT -5
So before we start, I want to clarify that I have no issue with part-timers. I love Brock Lesnar's part time schedule and also enjoy Chris Jericho's schedule where he comes and goes. However, I find The Undertaker's schedule to be frustrating at times. I feel like we have seen a lot more Brock Lesnar than we have Undertaker in the past couple of years. I mean, Bray Wyatt had to literally carry the entire program leading into Wrestlemania on his shoulders only for Taker to show up on the day of and win. I get that Undertaker is winding down his career. I understand. He owes us nothing. I respect The Undertaker. However, I just read that he has already flown back to Texas following his match with Brock Lesnar at Summerslam last night. However, Lesnar is still scheduled to be on Raw. I mean, if that's even true, Undertaker couldn't stick around for ONE more day and at least give us...something...anything? It's similar to when the Shield took Taker out by putting him through an announce table. He just disappeared. Gone. Nada. Again, Taker owes us nothing. I just feel like if you're going to involve yourself in storylines then it needs to be more involvement even on a part-time level. In the case of Lesnar, we have seen quite a bit of him this year so far and he's even scheduled for a MSG show in October which will be aired on the Network. I wasn't a fan of Taker-Lesnar happening at Summerslam in the first place but considering the f*ck finish you think we would at least get some sort of statement or interaction between the two on Raw tonight... How you guys feel? Thays because we have.
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 24, 2015 15:54:23 GMT -5
Unfortunately I'm an Undertaker guy, and he can't doing any wrong in my eyes. I do find his logic a little batty though... Sheild takes him out, no revenge. Brock Lesnar breaks the streak. Undertaker beats Wyatt Undertakers seeks revenge on Lesnar 15months after his loss.. seems like the undertaker doesn't go for revenge straight away seems to build himself up to it haha The Rock never got revenge on the Shield either , and they got him way worse than they got Taker __ Lesnar beats the streak , Takers leaves , presumably never to be seen again Heyman and Lesnar gloat. The next year Bray Wyatt "resurrected " Taker for a Wrestlemania match Taker wins that match and realizes he still has gas left. Heyman and Lesnar continue to gloat. Taker waits for the best possible moment after Mania 31 to strike , and does. Taker admits "all streaks come to an end" but that the only reason he came after Brock is because he was constantly reminding everyone for 15 months They fought in a killer rematch at Summerslam It makes sense to me..
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Aug 24, 2015 16:23:23 GMT -5
Taker is my second fav of all time, so it's always nice to see him. I would love to see more of him, but I get it. I'm also a huge Brock fan, as well.
But, this whole feud seems to be just heading in a corner.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 16:27:06 GMT -5
I'd rather see Future Jesus Seth Rollins break up with the Authority and declare Jon Stewart his new sugar daddy than hear the Undertaker explain why it's okay for him to accept a low blow victory after tapping out to Brock, but that's just me.
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