Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 30, 2015 11:25:24 GMT -5
Do you hate those fans that are all over the Internet. They moan about the way WWE is run so they say what they want (fair enough so far) then they get what they want then they cry about what they got. Hypocrites!! And here is a prime example: Royal Rumble 2014 Batista wins boo reigns deserves to win boo he is the future Royal Rumble 2015: boo reigns won boo we all hate him boo why him Complete hypocrites. They criticise everything that everyone says and just pick out little things to make life worse. Damn I'm just sick and tired of those people. I know right join the club these fans are basically going to be what kill wrestling No, it will be WWE that causes their own demise. They are a producer, their job is to provide a product the consumer wants. It isn't the consumers job to just accept what the producer puts out, dummy. |
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Post by Mox on Sept 30, 2015 11:27:16 GMT -5
Bitching on the internet is the fun part of wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 11:37:04 GMT -5
Do you hate those fans that are all over the Internet. They moan about the way WWE is run so they say what they want (fair enough so far) then they get what they want then they cry about what they got. Hypocrites!! And here is a prime example: Royal Rumble 2014 Batista wins boo reigns deserves to win boo he is the future Royal Rumble 2015: boo reigns won boo we all hate him boo why him Complete hypocrites. They criticise everything that everyone says and just pick out little things to make life worse. Damn I'm just sick and tired of those people. I'm sick of the fans like you who seem to think that the internet is one collective unit. Unless you can prove to me that the same people are making contradicting complaints then this is all bullcrap. I'm not saying that it's all the internet fans so please read properly. I don't mind how people have opinions but most of them find a way to criticise everything |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 30, 2015 12:15:01 GMT -5
Not really because it was like this back in the day. They just had no place to post it to where the world could see it. It probably wasn't so much the same way. Without those posts, we didn't all encourage each other to hate wrestling, so back in the day wrestling fandom was more about liking wrestling rather than hating wrestling. It's changed now. Like the guy said above, the bitching is the fun part. |
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Post by BCizzle on Sept 30, 2015 13:21:42 GMT -5
Bitching on the internet is the fun part of wrestling. I feel like the internet would be WAY more fun if people would stop bitching all the time. Constructive criticism, a well timed barb here and there, sure. But nothing except complaints and snarky remarks? It's not fun. |
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Post by PJ on Sept 30, 2015 13:24:46 GMT -5
I pay them no mind. I enjoy what I like and really don't care if others agree or not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 13:25:12 GMT -5
Bitching on the internet is the fun part of wrestling. QFT |
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Post by @HartAttvcks on Sept 30, 2015 13:41:06 GMT -5
I kinda agree with this guy. Wrestling fans get so emotionally invested in the WWE, and their talent, it's quite odd. The smarks HAVE to complain about someone, or Something, and cry and rant about it on Twitter, and YouTube, etc. I could never see myself being THAT kind of fan, who sits online and rages about WWE or who they have employed. There are things I like, and there are things I dislike, but somewhere out there, someone might actually like it.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Sept 30, 2015 13:42:30 GMT -5
Bitching on the internet is the fun part of wrestling. I used to agree... now it's got to the point where I'm like "well if I hate it so much that all I'm going to do is complain about it, why am I still watching it?" it's not fun anymore for me to bitch about it. I want to enjoy it... but I still watch it out of habit more than anything it seems. Haha. |
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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Sept 30, 2015 13:46:41 GMT -5
Hey thanks for hating me.
I was one of the people changing Batista. Why was everyone cheering Reigns that night in Pittsburgh? It was obvious Batista was gonna win. We wanted something unexpected. We didn't want Batista.
Why did everyone boo Reigns in Philly? We wanted something we didn't expect. We wanted something unexpected. It was SUPER obvious Reigns was going to win.
Daniel Bryan seemed to be the only exception to this. He's so loved that they can give him everything. Why? Because his rise was so natural. He earned everything.
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Sept 30, 2015 13:55:02 GMT -5
I’m sick of the complainers who complain about others who complain. (Replace the word complain with b!+c#)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 13:57:43 GMT -5
I hope my post doesn't make you think I hate WWE, because I don't, I'm enjoying it right now honestly. I was just bringing up stuff that I feel are legit problems. Not really because it was like this back in the day. They just had no place to post it to where the world could see it. It probably wasn't so much the same way. Without those posts, we didn't all encourage each other to hate wrestling, so back in the day wrestling fandom was more about liking wrestling rather than hating wrestling. It's changed now. Like the guy said above, the bitching is the fun part. Everyone knows your gimmick is to be condescending towards any criticism, but as I mentioned earlier, there are legitimate problems the WWE is facing right now. Record low ratings is in indicator is it not? No rational person wants to hate wrestling if they consider themselves a fan, if you actually believe that what he said is true, then you're kidding yourself. It is not people's job as a consumer to accept everything the WWE brings to the table, which was clear when Diesel and Mabel where drawing record lows. People didn't hate that because it was cool to hate the WWE, people hated it because it was awful. These issues have been stemming for years, and they're finally feeling the heat. Still, I think you're just a gimmick anyways, so I don't put too much merit into what you say if I am to be quite blunt. Still, you can bring up good points, just wish you'd drop the condescending attitude gimmick. I figured the temp. ban would have an indicator to do as such. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 14:06:56 GMT -5
Does anyone else see that fan in the green smiley face shirt every time on RAW.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Sept 30, 2015 14:17:46 GMT -5
The example you used is terrible.
Who was pining for Reigns to win the 2014 Rumble? Both years everyone was pissed because it wasn't Bryan.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 30, 2015 14:18:47 GMT -5
Everyone knows your gimmick is to be condescending towards any criticism Sure, if that makes you feel better about hating everything. In reality, I criticise WWE often. Their silly "workrate + rematches = profit" strategy hasn't worked out too well, and they're struggling to establish any stars other than the ones who they can't book in long, pointless rematches every week. But there were complaints online when ratings were good, and there are complaints online when ratings are bad. When people were starting five boycott threads every week, ratings were better than now, because it's hard to feel anything about that show at the moment. It's just so bland. Make no mistake, we're all going to find stuff to complain about in a three hour show no matter what. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 14:23:19 GMT -5
Everyone knows your gimmick is to be condescending towards any criticism In reality, I criticise WWE often. Their silly "workrate + rematches = profit" strategy hasn't worked out too well, and they're struggling to establish any stars other than the ones who they can't book in long, pointless rematches every week. But there were complaints online when ratings were good, and there are complaints online when ratings are bad. When people were starting five boycott threads every week, ratings were better than now, because it's hard to feel anything about that show at the moment. It's just so bland. Make no mistake, we're all going to find stuff to complain about in a three hour show no matter what. Nope. I can direct you to this: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/326004/night-nocI said I'm enjoying WWE right now. I really am. What I'm trying to bring to the table is an overall perspective. I've said this several times, there has never been, and never will be a period in time in which everyone is happy. Ever. Right now, there is an actual indicator that things aren't working. Period. That's all I'm saying. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 30, 2015 14:26:36 GMT -5
Right now, there is an actual indicator that things aren't working. Period. That's all I'm saying. Absolutely. But there are less complaints now than there were in January 2014 (or January 2015, for that matter). And business was better. Were things working better or worse then compared to now? |
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Post by Sonnen on Sept 30, 2015 14:34:18 GMT -5
I can understand peoples frustration, the WWE try to fill around 10 hours of programming per week, maybe more. That's not including any Network specials/shows. There is a huge amount of over saturation right now. Because of that, holes in booking are more exposed. Some shows are real duds, but honestly in the grand scheme of things, it's not that bad.
There is definitely some unnecessary complaining going on. One example being Roman Reigns. Great looking guy, not offensive in the ring, getting better and better on the mic and is a new star. Yet because certain fans have a sense of entitlement, (which seems to have grown these last 5 years) sabotaged his ascension. Why? Because they wanted Daniel Bryan? Or someone else? Not at all. They like to bitch, plain and simple. They can deny it all they want. But people before the injury started turning on Daniel Bryan. When they started pushing Ziggler, the same thing. Now we're seeing it with Seth Rollins too.
Right now the WWE is putting on the best in ring product they ever have, if you argue that point, you're fooling yourself. If you look at the last few years. We've got matches that would be considered PPV quality in yesteryear, on free television each week. We have a whole bunch of new faces making their way to the main roster too. We're in a transition period of phasing the old guard out too. So there is a lot of change going on. As much as fans ask for change, they hate it, so that adds to the complaining too.
In summary, if the WWE have a bad show, call them out on it. I sure do.
But if you honestly think every single thing they do is utter garbage. Maybe you should find a new fandom?
Because if that's the case, I don't think you enjoy pro wrestling anymore...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 14:41:44 GMT -5
People wanted anybody but Batista. Reigns just happened to be the last guy in the match.
If it was Rollins, Ambrose, Ziggler, Lesnar, or anybody else on the roster, they would have had a similar view.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 14:43:20 GMT -5
Right now, there is an actual indicator that things aren't working. Period. That's all I'm saying. Absolutely. But there are less complaints now than there were in January 2014 (or January 2015, for that matter). And business was better. Were things working better or worse then compared to now? I think that it's just years of buildup. Something like this isn't going to happen overnight. I honestly think it's due in part to how obvious WWE fought Daniel Bryan's rise, and while not their fault, he never got an actual run with the title. I think the Royal Rumble fiasco in 2014 was the catalyst for this. I know that sounds silly, but I can't think of anything else in recent memory that has stirred so much controversy. Can you imagine if the WWE didn't get behind the Rock or Stone Cold? The only reason Daniel Bryan went on to WM was because WWE's hand was forced, and that was made very public by Bryan himself and other wrestlers. When something like that happens so publicly, I can imagine it breaking the spirit of some fans. They get behind a guy, they believe in a guy, this guy is shaking arenas wherever he goes with people chanting his name, and he is set aside for an already established star. I feel that was a critical mistake, and was the catalyst for the unraveling we are seeing today. I could be off base, but that's my theory anyway. |
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