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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Oct 8, 2015 13:19:04 GMT -5
I legit, seriously, feel so bad for Sasha Banks in the fact that she has to go back to Raw and Smackdown and put on 5 minute matches that are either one on one or six diva tag matches.
She had an unbelievable wrestling match with Bayley last night. Key word there is "wrestling" and now we get to see her go out with Naomi and Tamina - who should be in NXT learning their craft - and working with the Bella Twins and Alicia Fox (who aren't technically horrible, just their characters are so based on Total Divas now) and having these sports entertainment style matches.
It's clear that to Vince McMahon, the divas revolution is just Total Divas. To Triple H and the wrestling fans, it's the girls in NXT that are the divas revolution, in putting on amazing wrestling matches.
I can't help but wonder if Sasha was crying last night not because of happiness of how well the match went, but because she knows she is going back to WWE TV and having 5 minute matches that won't ever live up to her NXT matches with Bayley in the past few months.
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Post by sean™ on Oct 8, 2015 13:25:09 GMT -5
She's not the only one. I've fast forwarded through so much Diva **** in the last year or so.
I'll say this. There's a reason it's called the NXT WOMENS Championship and the other is the DIVAS Championship.
One is a wrestler and the other is, well, a diva. AKA a phrase used to demean a woman and make her sound dramatic.
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Post by cmiller79 on Oct 8, 2015 13:33:05 GMT -5
In and on nxt they wrestle
in the main roster and on raw & smackdown they entertain
That's the biggest difference
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Post by marino13 on Oct 8, 2015 13:38:39 GMT -5
I think the main roster diva matches have improved greatly over the past few months. Still not to the NXT level, but it'll take time to change the system. IMO it takes time to drive to the promise land, and the road trip just begun. People just need to buckle up & be patient.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 13:38:43 GMT -5
If I was a female wrestler in WWE...I wouldn't ever want to go near the main roster....other than the exposure and money there is no incentive.
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Post by J12 on Oct 8, 2015 13:44:00 GMT -5
As of right now, short of the ability to say "I made it", there's no reason for a woman who loves professional wrestling as much as Sasha and Bayley do to want to work on the main roster.
Obviously it's not something you refuse, because of the monetary opportunities and the whole "living the dream" aspect, but, as Sasha has said on multiple occasions, she'd do this for free.
I'm not suggesting any of the girls refuse the opportunity, nor do I think any of them feel like it's a huge demotion, but they're not stupid. They know what a stark contrast it is. It's one thing to go from being the big fish in a small pond to being the little fish in a big pond if you're still able to showcase yourself to the best of your ability, but it's another to be put in that same situation and have your fins cut off. That's what's going on with the girls making the transition.
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Post by attitudesback on Oct 8, 2015 13:50:04 GMT -5
I think the WWE and people in general expect the complete wrong thing from a Diva's Revolution. We want a WOMEN's revolution. These aren't women that spend hours pampering themselves worrying about their hair on TV.. I mean look at Bayley. She looks like crap after each big match because she gives her absolute all. These women are technically sound and put on great matches. I get that the main roster brand is reliant on Bella's but the NXT women are absolutely incredible. Banks can wrestle like hell, and cut an amazing promo filled with charisma. That is non-existent on the main guys roster, let alone the "Divas division" that is seemingly seen as nothing but filler to Vince.
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Post by J12 on Oct 8, 2015 13:55:31 GMT -5
I think the WWE and people in general expect the complete wrong thing from a Diva's Revolution. We want a WOMEN's revolution. These aren't women that spend hours pampering themselves worrying about their hair on TV.. I mean look at Bayley. She looks like crap after each big match because she gives her absolute all. These women are technically sound and put on great matches. I get that the main roster brand is reliant on Bella's but the NXT women are absolutely incredible. Banks can wrestle like hell, and cut an amazing promo filled with charisma. That is non-existent on the main guys roster, let alone the "Divas division" that is seemingly seen as nothing but filler to Vince. Vince's definition of the Diva's Revolution is taking what he perceives as the stereotypical women's personality off screen (catty, petty, pretty girls who can't get along), and putting it on television for the world to see. There are no discerning personalities, or faces and heels, because they're all catty and they all secretly hate each other and strive to undermine the other's integrity. It's not about wrestling, it's not about character development, it's about a 70 year old man entertaining himself with his misogynistic perception of the opposite sex. |
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Post by attitudesback on Oct 8, 2015 14:06:00 GMT -5
I think the WWE and people in general expect the complete wrong thing from a Diva's Revolution. We want a WOMEN's revolution. These aren't women that spend hours pampering themselves worrying about their hair on TV.. I mean look at Bayley. She looks like crap after each big match because she gives her absolute all. These women are technically sound and put on great matches. I get that the main roster brand is reliant on Bella's but the NXT women are absolutely incredible. Banks can wrestle like hell, and cut an amazing promo filled with charisma. That is non-existent on the main guys roster, let alone the "Divas division" that is seemingly seen as nothing but filler to Vince. Vince's definition of the Diva's Revolution is taking what he perceives as the stereotypical women's personality off screen (catty, petty, pretty girls who can't get along), and putting it on television for the world to see. There are no discerning personalities, or faces and heels, because they're all catty and they all secretly hate each other and strive to undermine the other's integrity. It's not about wrestling, it's not about character development, it's about a 70 year old man entertaining himself with his misogynistic perception of the opposite sex. Exactly. There's no development. The "hot girls" got grouped together. The "edgy girls" got grouped together as well as female Ric Flair for some reason. And then the black/ethnic/coloured girls got grouped together to make B.A.D. Why are they working together? Are they happy with someone leading the respective group? Instead, it's just boring matches no one cares about and the crowd end up thinking.."Where the  is Sasha Banks and why isn't she in the ring instead of this crap?!". Total Divas doesn't even pull a million viewers anymore and yet, the WWEs only new solid draw in the last 10 years is about to get in a feud with HBK-lite because of a storyline on the show. It's just bizarre. I hope the ratings continue to drop with absolute garbage like this. Everything Vince said when he did the video introduction to the Attitude Era that he regarded as bad ("treating fans like idiots") for example seems to be the very formula for the very crap we see every Monday night for 3 ridiculously long and dragged out hours. |
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Oct 8, 2015 14:14:18 GMT -5
Ya, I feel kinda bad for Sasha too. She wrestles great matches in NXT and feel like she will be snubbed on the main roster.
She beat Charlotte clean for the NXT womens title how many times and she is still not in the title picture vs Charlotte... ?
How are we supposed to take Charlotte serious if she doesn't get a clean victory over Sasha first? And Sasha can beat the WWE Divas champ but not NXT champ Bayley?
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Oct 8, 2015 14:17:52 GMT -5
You know who I feel worse for? Becky Lynch. She was just starting to get all of the momentum on NXT after her fantastic match Vs Sasha at that one Takeover and now she is so third wheel it's ridiculous. Not to mention, she's handedly my current favourite so her mishandling is even more obvious to me. But yeah it does suck for Sasha.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Oct 8, 2015 14:49:40 GMT -5
You know who I feel worse for? Becky Lynch. She was just starting to get all of the momentum on NXT after her fantastic match Vs Sasha at that one Takeover and now she is so third wheel it's ridiculous. Not to mention, she's handedly my current favourite so her mishandling is even more obvious to me. But yeah it does suck for Sasha. How about Emma? I feel worse for her than anybody... Playing second fiddle to Dana Brooke? Seriously...? She belongs in WWE.  |
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Oct 8, 2015 14:56:38 GMT -5
You know who I feel worse for? Becky Lynch. She was just starting to get all of the momentum on NXT after her fantastic match Vs Sasha at that one Takeover and now she is so third wheel it's ridiculous. Not to mention, she's handedly my current favourite so her mishandling is even more obvious to me. But yeah it does suck for Sasha. How about Emma? I feel worse for her than anybody... Playing second fiddle to Dana Brooke? Seriously...? She belongs in WWE. I fully attribute Emma as the reason I warmed up to Dana Brooke. Emma is amazing, why are my top two favourite Divas so third wheel  |
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Post by A-Rob on Oct 8, 2015 15:15:31 GMT -5
If there was a true "Revolution" a step in the right direction would be getting rid of that stupid butterfly belt and reviving the WOMEN'S Championship. It pains me to see Sasha burning buildings down in NXT and while on Raw she is an after thought.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2015 15:24:57 GMT -5
I watched NXT for the first time last night and I must admit I'm very impressed with the product. As far as the women's match. It was pretty damn good. I think they could have went 45 minutes the crowd was so into it! When I did watch TNA back in the day..it was mostly because of their knockouts division. The women were wrestling just as good as the men. Gail Kim and Awesome Kong had a classic feud. I see why Gail Kim left the WWE cause they didn't utilized the divas right. Back during the ruthless aggression era they had so much women talent but they was basically eye candy. Tna had women who wrestled and was good at it. Now that the WWE got some righteous talent. Well they need a few more divas then they'll have some talent.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 8, 2015 15:57:02 GMT -5
Sasha Banks could easily be the next AJ Lee, the next Trish Stratus when it comes to popularity. It's already starting on the main roster where people are chanting for Sasha when she's not on a divas match. I felt bad seeing her break down in tears after the match. To me, it looked as if she broke down because she knows that that was the final time we would ever see Sasha Banks on NXT and I bet Sasha Banks feels as if NXT is her home. I don't wanna see Sasha wrestle in six diva tag team matches. I wanna see Sasha wrestle Brie Bella, one on one. I wanna see Sasha face Alicia, one on one. I use that as an example of what I'd rather see when it comes to the divas. I don't wanna see 3 on 3 every week. Gives us a good 6-7 minute match between two divas. Natalya vs. Paige last Monday is the perfect example of what I wanna see in a divas match. They don't need 10-15 minutes on TV unless they plan on ending the feud on TV. Let the PPV matches last 10-15 minutes. Give us a good 6-7 minute divas match, let them show that they could do great stuff in that time limit, also give us a reason to wanna watch them with good storylines, and people will start caring again.
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Post by Rob on Oct 8, 2015 16:06:09 GMT -5
It baffles me how someone can deliver in big matches on NXT yet gets left so under the radar on the main roster.
Sasha has been on the main roster for a couple months now, Yet i honestly cant name one shining moment she has had since debuting. She is playing the 3rd wheel during this whole "Divas Revolution" crap and its tragic.
The whole womens division needs a huge revamping. Time to retire the "Divas Search" era and bring on a new WRESTLING division.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 8, 2015 16:15:22 GMT -5
I watched NXT for the first time last night and I must admit I'm very impressed with the product. As far as the women's match. It was pretty damn good. I think they could have went 45 minutes the crowd was so into it! When I did watch TNA back in the day..it was mostly because of their knockouts division. The women were wrestling just as good as the men. Gail Kim and Awesome Kong had a classic feud. I see why Gail Kim left the WWE cause they didn't utilized the divas right. Back during the ruthless aggression era they had so much women talent but they was basically eye candy. Tna had women who wrestled and was good at it. Now that the WWE got some righteous talent. Well they need a few more divas then they'll have some talent. Check out the women's matches from the other NXT TakeOver specials. All of them are damn good, with Sasha/Bayley in Brooklyn in August being the best. |
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Oct 8, 2015 16:19:55 GMT -5
You know who I feel worse for? Becky Lynch. She was just starting to get all of the momentum on NXT after her fantastic match Vs Sasha at that one Takeover and now she is so third wheel it's ridiculous. Not to mention, she's handedly my current favourite so her mishandling is even more obvious to me. But yeah it does suck for Sasha. How about Emma? I feel worse for her than anybody... Playing second fiddle to Dana Brooke? Seriously...? She belongs in WWE. I saw it them giving Dana a partner who knows how to work to help her out. Truthfully it's paying off. They're super entertaining together. |
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Post by Midnight on Oct 8, 2015 16:44:09 GMT -5
If there was a true "Revolution" a step in the right direction would be getting rid of that stupid butterfly belt and reviving the WOMEN'S Championship. It pains me to see Sasha burning buildings down in NXT and while on Raw she is an after thought. This. I totally agree, how can anyone take a butterfly belt seriously. Sasha Banks is amazing but on the main roster you wouldn't even know it. |
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