jakksking1
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Post by jakksking1 on Oct 26, 2015 9:23:30 GMT -5
Cena has kryptonite just like the real Superman. His is the Staples Center in which he has lost cleanly to Del Rio, got completely murdered by Brock and lost to Daniel Bryan with one knee to face.
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Zincdust
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Post by Zincdust on Oct 26, 2015 9:31:16 GMT -5
Sh*t. This means Mattel will start making Del Rio figures again. Pfffft. No kidding. Although if you were to look at the shelves in my area, you would have never thought that he was gone to begin with! Still plenty of basic ADRs at my local TRU, Wal-Marts, K-Mart and Walgreens.
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tenup
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Post by tenup on Oct 26, 2015 9:46:31 GMT -5
The hatred for Del Rio is ridiculous. Agreed. The guy has alot of potential, awesome moveset, and is at his peak. My only issue with the whole thing was Zeb's random involvement especially after all the horrible things he's said about Del Rio in past promos.
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Post by sitruC on Oct 26, 2015 9:50:05 GMT -5
I'm just happy the put a guy fired for racism with a guy who has a racist character.
WWE knows what we want.
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gawd6sic6™
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Post by gawd6sic6™ on Oct 26, 2015 10:41:22 GMT -5
I'm just happy the put a guy fired for racism with a guy who has a racist character. WWE knows what we want. Alberto wasn't fired for racism. Someone said racist remarks to him and berto slapped him. Zebs character isn't racist either. He's Uber american. He is against illegal aliens. Berto went through the correct channels to become american, and is living the American dream. The teaming makes sense to me.
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Post by J12 on Oct 26, 2015 10:48:48 GMT -5
I thought it was, by far, the lowest point of the show.
The match itself was below average. Mediocre would be a generous assessment. Cena goes from stealing the show on almost a nightly basis to having a completely forgettable match against a completely forgettable opponent.
Of all the people Cena could lose the title cleanly to and create a huge moment, he does it against one of the biggest failures of the last decade.
Look, I get it, some people like Del Rio. That's fine. But the guy is a black hole of charisma under WWE's umbrella. The only notable aspect of his first tenure was how miserably he failed to connect with the audience in every single situation they put him in. I don't care what he's done in Lucha Underground or anywhere else. WWE is not those promotions. They've gotten worse creatively since Del Rio left, not better. They do not deserve the benefit of the doubt here. Until WWE, and Del Rio, can prove otherwise, I will continue to believe he is a gigantic waste of time, money and effort, particularly when there is already so much talent on the roster and in NXT being grossly underutilized.
I said it when he came out last night, and I'll say it again: the only thing that could've been worse was Big Show.
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havoc7179
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Post by havoc7179 on Oct 26, 2015 11:24:50 GMT -5
1) I laughed when I saw Mark Wahlberg in the crowd as I thought of Cena's line in the movie Trainwreck
2) I thought "Wow. I wonder if this was a condition of Del Rio's to come back and not make a big deal about the racist comments directed at him? I wonder if it was ZCena who said it?" And then I thought "I wonder if Del Rio gave Cena a concussion and Cena forgot to kick out."
After the first 30 seconds, I didn't care anymore. Great way to build new stars I guess. Oh...wait....
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Casty
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Post by Casty on Oct 26, 2015 11:25:04 GMT -5
Would've immensely preferred Swagger.
I like Del Rio, I absolutely hate the way WWE books him, creative has such a hard-on for him, maybe if he's face I'll be alright, but heel Del Rio is torture for anyone else on the roster.
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Post by E N I G M A on Oct 26, 2015 11:29:59 GMT -5
I never liked Alberto Del Rio and I'm not happy to see him back. I wish somebody else could have gotten that moment. Exactly. Never been a fan of his, never will be.
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Post by TheLastDude on Oct 26, 2015 14:46:23 GMT -5
I thought it was, by far, the lowest point of the show. The match itself was below average. Mediocre would be a generous assessment. Cena goes from stealing the show on almost a nightly basis to having a completely forgettable match against a completely forgettable opponent. Of all the people Cena could lose the title cleanly to and create a huge moment, he does it against one of the biggest failures of the last decade. Look, I get it, some people like Del Rio. That's fine. But the guy is a black hole of charisma under WWE's umbrella. The only notable aspect of his first tenure was how miserably he failed to connect with the audience in every single situation they put him in. I don't care what he's done in Lucha Underground or anywhere else. WWE is not those promotions. They've gotten worse creatively since Del Rio left, not better. They do not deserve the benefit of the doubt here. Until WWE, and Del Rio, can prove otherwise, I will continue to believe he is a gigantic waste of time, money and effort, particularly when there is already so much talent on the roster and in NXT being grossly underutilized. I said it when he came out last night, and I'll say it again: the only thing that could've been worse was Big Show. I kind of want to stand up and clap now.
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tenup
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Post by tenup on Oct 26, 2015 15:24:18 GMT -5
I think people just deny the fact that this return was done correctly. It was very unexpected and it would have worked for anyone coming in from outside the company to accept the open challenge. Even though I thoroughly enjoyed the return of Del Rio, Shelton Benjamine or Carlito would have been a blast if it had been either of the 2 to come back last night.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 15:28:36 GMT -5
Would've immensely preferred Swagger. I like Del Rio, I absolutely hate the way WWE books him, creative has such a hard-on for him, maybe if he's face I'll be alright, but heel Del Rio is torture for anyone else on the roster. I would've preferred Swagger too. He could finally get over if he beat Cena clean.
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Post by J12 on Oct 26, 2015 15:28:17 GMT -5
I think people just deny the fact that this return was done correctly. It was very unexpected and it would have worked for anyone coming in from outside the company to accept the open challenge. Even though I thoroughly enjoyed the return of Del Rio, Shelton Benjamine or Carlito would have been a blast if it had been either of the 2 to come back last night. I think this is true. It was a surprise, so it led to a big pop. WWE will see that as people caring about Del Rio, when in reality, this was basically a plug-and-play situation. There's absolutely nothing to suggest (especially based on his performance last night) that within a couple of weeks, we won't be back to being able to hear a pin drop every time Del Rio's music hits. I can't imagine WWE did do this because they have some grand master plan for Del Rio and a whole new way in which to present his character to make sure he gets over this time around. There has been grumblings about this for weeks, and plenty of reports suggesting Vince McMahon felt like he needed someone to appeal to Mexican demographic. Someone probably just told him last week that Rey Mysterio is no longer under contract, so he had his cronies call Del Rio and likely paid him way too much money to come do his shtick and check off the "culturally diverse" box. It's a hack-job quick fix predicated out of laziness and disinterest in putting in the work on your existing talent. Soon, Del Rio will be just an overpaid damaged toy in Vince's chewed-up toybox.
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Casty
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Post by Casty on Oct 26, 2015 15:55:23 GMT -5
Would've immensely preferred Swagger. I like Del Rio, I absolutely hate the way WWE books him, creative has such a hard-on for him, maybe if he's face I'll be alright, but heel Del Rio is torture for anyone else on the roster. I would've preferred Swagger too. He could finally get over if he beat Cena clean. He's been in limbo since his first match with Rusev, seeing as he never went over, I'd love to see Swagger more frequently.
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Post by Midnight on Oct 26, 2015 16:01:26 GMT -5
I do wish that somebody else would have gotten the moment and it should have been a longer match but hey at least someone else is US Champ!
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Post by BØRNS on Oct 26, 2015 16:44:11 GMT -5
I'm glad Del Rio is back. He is pretty underrated imo, and can work with a lot of the recent call-ups this year.
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Post by tiny04 on Oct 26, 2015 16:50:27 GMT -5
I was just delighted to see Del Rio back, especially with Zeb who is a great character.
"John Cena, if that is your real name" had me laughing. Classic Zeb.
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Post by RV F'N D on Oct 26, 2015 17:32:53 GMT -5
I like Del Rio a lot, and I am glad he's back. I really love his ring work. It was especially awesome for me because we didn't see it coming at all, which is not something we get to experience much anymore with WWE.
Don't get me wrong, Cena should have dropped that title to a younger talent months ago. There is a long list of people who could have benefited from it much more.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 26, 2015 17:39:08 GMT -5
Ill never understand the hate for ADR. He's well above average in ring worker. His gimmick of a rich aristocrat is always good for heel heat. He's everything you legit could want in a heel.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Oct 26, 2015 20:27:40 GMT -5
Ill never understand the hate for ADR. He's well above average in ring worker. His gimmick of a rich aristocrat is always good for heel heat. He's everything you legit could want in a heel. I like him and everything. But he gets no reaction whatsoever when he comes out. None. You can hear a pin drop.
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