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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 12:31:21 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else but I have not said in any post that Vince or WWE is a racist. And the WWE Championship and the World Heavyweight Championdhip are two totally ing different championships. They might've been unified a time or two but they are different. The WWE title is the WWE title. The one that has always been in WWE. It has a massive WWE logo on it. The WHC came from the NWA/WCW. Different company. Different heritage. Different championship. Just like the IC title is not the WWE title and the King of the Ring crown is most certainly not a WWE title. You can dilute the whole thing however much you want. Well they're in the company and they were IC champion. Well whites and blacks would eat in the same restaurants but in different areas and maybe even different food quality. So, they're still in the restaurant(WWE) and they're still being fed(WHC, IC, KOTR). But they're not dining on THE WWE CHAMPIONSHIP Oh, and Mark Henry wouldn't work for racists but he did work for a company who tried to deem him the "silverback." He told them no. He has children watching. That company was the WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 12:33:41 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else but I have not said in any post that Vince or WWE is a racist. And the WWE Championship and the World Heavyweight Championdhip are two totally ing different championships. They might've been unified a time or two but they are different. The WWE title is the WWE title. The one that has always been in WWE. It has a massive WWE logo on it. The WHC came from the NWA/WCW. Different company. Different heritage. Different championship. Just like the IC title is not the WWE title and the King of the Ring crown is most certainly not a WWE title. You can dilute the whole thing however much you want. Well they're in the company and they were IC champion. Well whites and blacks would eat in the same restaurants but in different areas and maybe even different food quality. So, they're still in the restaurant(WWE) and they're still being fed(WHC, IC, KOTR). But they're not dining on THE WWE CHAMPIONSHIP Oh, and Mark Henry wouldn't work for racists but he did work for a company who tried to deem him the "silverback." He told them no. He has children watching. That company was the WWE. What black superstar should've/could've been WWE champion and wasn't?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 12:46:28 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else but I have not said in any post that Vince or WWE is a racist. And the WWE Championship and the World Heavyweight Championdhip are two totally ing different championships. They might've been unified a time or two but they are different. The WWE title is the WWE title. The one that has always been in WWE. It has a massive WWE logo on it. The WHC came from the NWA/WCW. Different company. Different heritage. Different championship. Just like the IC title is not the WWE title and the King of the Ring crown is most certainly not a WWE title. You can dilute the whole thing however much you want. Well they're in the company and they were IC champion. Well whites and blacks would eat in the same restaurants but in different areas and maybe even different food quality. So, they're still in the restaurant(WWE) and they're still being fed(WHC, IC, KOTR). But they're not dining on THE WWE CHAMPIONSHIP Oh, and Mark Henry wouldn't work for racists but he did work for a company who tried to deem him the "silverback." He told them no. He has children watching. That company was the WWE. What black superstar should've/could've been WWE champion and wasn't? As I said earlier in the thread, Booker T. Even if he was the only one that should have won it. But for their 50+ year history, I just think it's a glaring hole.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 12:49:38 GMT -5
What black superstar should've/could've been WWE champion and wasn't? As I said earlier in the thread, Booker T. Even if he was the only one that should have won it. But for their 50+ year history, I just think it's a glaring hole. Brand split. He was on a different show than the one which had the WWE title. Agreed he should've beat Triple H at Wrestlemania 19 but that was for the World Heavyweight Title which you clearly stated is something completely different than the WWE title. He did get the World Heavyweight Title later though but I guess that doesn't count. When should've/could've Booker T won the WWE title?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 12:58:43 GMT -5
As I said earlier in the thread, Booker T. Even if he was the only one that should have won it. But for their 50+ year history, I just think it's a glaring hole. Brand split. He was on a different show than the one which had the WWE title. Agreed he should've beat Triple H at Wrestlemania 19 but that was for the World Heavyweight Title which you clearly stated is something completely different than the WWE title. He did get the World Heavyweight Title later though but I guess that doesn't count. When should've/could've Booker T won the WWE title? Dude I'm not trying to rebook history. I'm stating the fact the WWE has never had a true black WWE champion. And the reality is they should have. I'm not trying to argue with anyone but WWE wants to pick and choose on apecifics throughout history then I will do the same. I don't recognize the WHC as the WWE championship because it isn't. And I bet you Vince McMahon feels the exact same way about those two titles. But this conversation will only go in circles because obviously we feel differently about it. I appreciate yours and everyone else's views but I'm standing firmly by mine. And I will try to refrain from posting in this thread anymore because it's already a touchy issue and it will likely only get worse from here.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 14, 2015 13:53:38 GMT -5
I don't know about anyone else but I have not said in any post that Vince or WWE is a racist. You've constantly implied it with embarrassing, conspiracy-theory pseudo-logic. Who and when?
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Post by jakksking1 on Nov 14, 2015 15:07:04 GMT -5
Brand split. He was on a different show than the one which had the WWE title. Agreed he should've beat Triple H at Wrestlemania 19 but that was for the World Heavyweight Title which you clearly stated is something completely different than the WWE title. He did get the World Heavyweight Title later though but I guess that doesn't count. When should've/could've Booker T won the WWE title? Dude I'm not trying to rebook history. I'm stating the fact the WWE has never had a true black WWE champion. And the reality is they should have. I'm not trying to argue with anyone but WWE wants to pick and choose on apecifics throughout history then I will do the same. I don't recognize the WHC as the WWE championship because it isn't. And I bet you Vince McMahon feels the exact same way about those two titles. But this conversation will only go in circles because obviously we feel differently about it. I appreciate yours and everyone else's views but I'm standing firmly by mine. And I will try to refrain from posting in this thread anymore because it's already a touchy issue and it will likely only get worse from here. Why isn't the Rock considered a "true black" champion? Is Obama not true black either?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 16:47:38 GMT -5
The world heavyweight championship has more history and is more prestigious. Black people have held it.
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Post by marino13 on Nov 15, 2015 10:36:17 GMT -5
This should have been a fun thread. I too had thought about asking the same question. No denying Apollo has a very bright future.
But somewhere along the lines it went from a legit question, to an argument over race. And now due to complaints, I guess I have to lock this.
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