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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:12:30 GMT -5
If there just gonna except him later that year? Like seriously, could they not of just accepted him from the start so WWE didn't have to pull a fast one and have Rollins cash in so the PPV dosent end up with people booing Reigns. We literally had to endure the worst champion of all time (Rollins) because the HARDCORE crowd didn't like Reigns. Look, It dosent matter if you like Rollins or not, I thought he was badass in the Sheild, but his title reign was the WOAT and the WOAT ratings prove this. He couldn't even beat a guy like ing Neville clean, he would run away at every match and every single ing week we would hear the same promo with his super annoying voice. Such an awful year. Message to anyone who booed Reigns: why? Why did you make us endure the WOAT year until YOU exact same people would except him? Why couldn't you of just accepted him in the first place? It is NOT a coincidence the ratings were huge the one night he won the belt. Don't give me the crap that 'he's improved', if anything he's gone worse other than he now jumps over the rope to make the Indy marks happy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:18:52 GMT -5
Because, simply put, he was not ready.
He hadn't proven himself in the ring, he hadn't proven himself on the mic (still hasn't), and people could tell that his push was being forced onto us because he was (and is) their next big "guy".
People have opinions. They're allowed to voice them.
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Post by sitruC on Dec 22, 2015 17:22:36 GMT -5
Reigns sucks.
Rollins is the man.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:24:57 GMT -5
Because, simply put, he was not ready. He hadn't proven himself in the ring, he hadn't proven himself on the mic (still hasn't), and people could tell that his push was being forced onto us because he was (and is) their next big "guy". People have opinions. They're allowed to voice them. But he's ready now? Why? Because he got beat up by Lesnar? Because he had a table spotfest with the Reddit atheist Bray? He had already had previous MOTY candidates with Evolution and the Wyatts, and if you say 'that was all Dean and Seth' you're kidding yourself. And how come his push isn't still being 'forced down our throats'? He still hasn't lost clean since Adam Rose beat him in FCW. If anything now it's being more forced. and yes, I know, but if their gonna change it for no apparent reason I can think of wasn't it a waste to boo him and make us endure a year of Seth and have thousands of people tune out?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:26:30 GMT -5
Reigns sucks. Rollins is the man. I guess you like 'I AM THE FUCHTURE! I BROKE CHENACHS NOSE!' Every single week to start RAW. That's fine. But thousands didn't and WWE got the worst ratings of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:27:18 GMT -5
Because, simply put, he was not ready. He hadn't proven himself in the ring, he hadn't proven himself on the mic (still hasn't), and people could tell that his push was being forced onto us because he was (and is) their next big "guy". People have opinions. They're allowed to voice them. But he's ready now? Why? Because he got beat up by Lesnar? Because he had a table spotfest with the Reddit atheist Bray? He had already had previous MOTY candidates with Evolution and the Wyatts, and if you say 'that was all Dean and Seth' you're kidding yourself. And how come his push isn't still being 'forced down our throats'? He still hasn't lost clean since Adam Rose beat him in FCW. If anything now it's being more forced. and yes, I know, but if their gonna change it for no apparent reason I can think of wasn't it a waste to boo him and make us endure a year of Seth and have thousands of people tune out? If anything people were tuning in more because of Seth.
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Post by sitruC on Dec 22, 2015 17:28:04 GMT -5
Reigns sucks. Rollins is the man. I guess you like 'I AM THE FUCHTURE! I BROKE CHENACHS NOSE!' Every single week to start RAW. That's fine. But thousands didn't and WWE got the worst ratings of all time. At the end of the day Rollins is superior to Reigns. FACT.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:31:14 GMT -5
Oh no not another Roman Reigns Vs The World thread again.I'm out......
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:35:12 GMT -5
But he's ready now? Why? Because he got beat up by Lesnar? Because he had a table spotfest with the Reddit atheist Bray? He had already had previous MOTY candidates with Evolution and the Wyatts, and if you say 'that was all Dean and Seth' you're kidding yourself. And how come his push isn't still being 'forced down our throats'? He still hasn't lost clean since Adam Rose beat him in FCW. If anything now it's being more forced. and yes, I know, but if their gonna change it for no apparent reason I can think of wasn't it a waste to boo him and make us endure a year of Seth and have thousands of people tune out? If anything people were tuning in more because of Seth. Really? Since Mania, since Rollins won the title, to October, to were he vacated it just a week into November, WWE lost 500,000 viewers. The show is based around the champion therefore it is fair to blame this on Seth.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 22, 2015 17:35:51 GMT -5
I can't recall actually booing Reigns personally. I thought he wasn't ready at the start of the year, having only one singles PPV match under his belt (vs. Orton at SummerSlam) and it wasn't very good.
However, he spent 2015 putting on impressive performance after impressive performance, earning my respect. His character is still pretty lame and his mic skills are garbage, but when it comes to in ring work, Roman Reigns won me over, just as I hoped he would.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:37:43 GMT -5
If anything people were tuning in more because of Seth. Really? Since Mania, since Rollins won the title, to October, to were he vacated it just a week into November, WWE lost 500,000 viewers. The show is based around the champion therefore it is fair to blame this on Seth. Are you sure about that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:37:50 GMT -5
Dude, we get it. You hate all indy guys and love homegrown WWE guys like Reigns. Why keep reminding us?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 22, 2015 17:38:44 GMT -5
Also, Seth Rollins beat Neville clean for the OP's information. While the booking of his title reign wasn't great, he still had good to great matches with Neville, Cena, Ambrose and others. I get that people want to put the blame on Seth for the ratings, but I blame the product much more than the champion.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Dec 22, 2015 17:40:33 GMT -5
I can't recall actually booing Reigns personally. I thought he wasn't ready at the start of the year, having only one singles PPV match under his belt (vs. Orton at SummerSlam) and it wasn't very good. However, he spent 2015 putting on impressive performance after impressive performance, earning my respect. His character is still pretty lame and his mic skills are garbage, but when it comes to in ring work, Roman Reigns won me over, just as I hoped he would. He got so good this year in the ring. Never expected so many moty candidates from him let alone one with the god damn big show.
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Post by screech on Dec 22, 2015 17:40:43 GMT -5
Is this a serious discussion thread or just a rant to tell a certain group of people that they're wrong and need to explain themselves?
Either way, the answer to your question is extremely obvious. Circumstances are everything. Reigns being forced into Wrestlemania in January was not appealing to many people at all besides young children. In December, Sheamus and the overall product was even more unappealing to most people. Having the sudden switch in Reigns' character to be more aggressive and having him dethrone ultra boring Sheamus was a huge success in terms of sparking some sort of interest back into the product. This doesn't mean that everyone who hated Reigns' forced push in the past is all of a sudden in love with the guy. There are still plenty of people who aren't thrilled with it and aren't optimistic. You seem to be basing people's interest back in the product as a measuring stick for who would actually prefer Reigns to be on top. They're not mutually exclusive. People are interested again and most seem to be liking the direction of an aggressive Reigns. This doesn't equate to everyone thinking he's "ready" and this and that. People are interested again because the product hit rock bottom and they switched it up. Most people are now willing to give this new Reigns a shot because they feel it can't get worse at this point and at least like the direction they may be taking him in. Plain and simple.
As for the Philadelphia crowd in particular, they aren't solely responsible for any booking decisions regarding Seth Rollins' title reign. That crowd mimicked what a lot of people were writing about Reigns' forced push and horrible promos on sites like this one. The decision to throw Daniel Bryan into the Rumble and have him eliminated early certainly wasn't a wise decision to get the crowd on his side. I'm not saying they're right or wrong but the fact is they were giving their opinion on their dissatisfaction of the product. It's ironic that you're ranting and complaining that the reason you're not happy with the product is because other people complained that they weren't happy with the product.
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Post by cmiller79 on Dec 22, 2015 17:41:50 GMT -5
He wasn't ready then
He is ready now
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Post by Colter on Dec 22, 2015 17:43:20 GMT -5
I can't recall actually booing Reigns personally. I thought he wasn't ready at the start of the year, having only one singles PPV match under his belt (vs. Orton at SummerSlam) and it wasn't very good. However, he spent 2015 putting on impressive performance after impressive performance, earning my respect. His character is still pretty lame and his mic skills are garbage, but when it comes to in ring work, Roman Reigns won me over, just as I hoped he would. This a thousand times.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Dec 22, 2015 17:43:43 GMT -5
I don't know why people stopped booing him, still not a fan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:45:50 GMT -5
Really? Since Mania, since Rollins won the title, to October, to were he vacated it just a week into November, WWE lost 500,000 viewers. The show is based around the champion therefore it is fair to blame this on Seth. Are you sure about that? That's just an average. If you want something juicer, from the night after Wrestlemania (one day after Rollins won, no one knew he'd be bad) to the 29th of June episode where Seth main evented, WWE has lost 2 million viewers since then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2015 17:47:06 GMT -5
That's just an average. If you want something juicer, from the night after Wrestlemania (one day after Rollins won, no one knew he'd be bad) to the 29th of June episode where Seth main evented, WWE has lost 2 million viewers since then. Lol you're cracking me up.
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