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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 20, 2018 19:43:06 GMT -5
The Yankees pitching is awful besides Severino. They're not winning the World Series this year. We know from all of those Yankee teams from 2004-2008, you can't slug your way to victory if your pitching is bad.
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Post by King Richius on Jul 20, 2018 19:50:13 GMT -5
The Yankees pitching is awful besides Severino. They're not winning the World Series this year. We know from all of those Yankee teams from 2004-2008, you can't slug your way to victory if your pitching is bad. They'll probably nab a decent pitcher or two before the trade deadline. Some scrub team is always willing to let go of their one decent player in the name of "rebuilding" or because they will lose them to free agency later anyway. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 20, 2018 19:59:33 GMT -5
The Yankees pitching is awful besides Severino. They're not winning the World Series this year. We know from all of those Yankee teams from 2004-2008, you can't slug your way to victory if your pitching is bad. They'll probably nab a decent pitcher or two before the trade deadline. Some scrub team is always willing to let go of their one decent player in the name of "rebuilding" or because they will lose them to free agency later anyway. Based on the rumors I'm reading, the Yankees might not be able to make any trades. People are just asking for too much and it's not worth it for what's out there. I'm not trading Justus Sheffield for JA Happ or Cole Hamels. I'd rather just call up Justus Sheffield and let him pitch. They wanted Andujar for Brad Hand who's a reliever! Not even an elite one like 2 years ago when we traded Miller and Chapman. THEY were elite at the time. I don't see the Yanks doing any major trades. Maybe you DFA Walker or trade somebody like Drury or Austin or Wade for a mediocre lefty reliever because Chasen Shreve is barely MLB capable. But there will be no blockbuster trade or ace on his way to New York this season. |
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Post by LK3 on Jul 20, 2018 20:54:09 GMT -5
If Happ/Hamels are the biggest names out there, then it’s a pass from me. Unless we’re giving up nothing worthy, it’s not worth it. I’d rather let Sheffield pitch over German or Gray, whoever is worse at the time.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Jul 20, 2018 22:05:56 GMT -5
Kimbrel is nasty
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Post by LK3 on Jul 21, 2018 15:14:16 GMT -5
What the  was that from Chapman? Shreve of all people comes in to close it out. Je-sus. |
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Post by Chip on Jul 22, 2018 10:53:37 GMT -5
yeah this is a major problem in baseball now....teams have seen what someone like the yankees did when they traded for torres and frazier, etc. basically Cashgod rebuilt his farm system into one of the best in baseball through trading stars to contending teams. now its been done before of course, but not at the level it was the last few years so now every team is not gonna give up their guys unless they are getting a farm restock. ESPECIALLY to the Yankees. its that cat & mouse game of waiting until July 31 to see who will break first. Yankees arent giving up their best guys for rentals, teams are trading rentals for anything less than the best. honestly the Yankees should just wait until the waivers period and just pick up a #1 starter like the sh*t Astros did last year getting Verlander in ing September. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 22, 2018 11:07:08 GMT -5
yeah this is a major problem in baseball now....teams have seen what someone like the yankees did when they traded for torres and frazier, etc. basically Cashgod rebuilt his farm system into one of the best in baseball through trading stars to contending teams. now its been done before of course, but not at the level it was the last few years so now every team is not gonna give up their guys unless they are getting a farm restock. ESPECIALLY to the Yankees. its that cat & mouse game of waiting until July 31 to see who will break first. Yankees arent giving up their best guys for rentals, teams are trading rentals for anything less than the best. honestly the Yankees should just wait until the waivers period and just pick up a #1 starter like the sh*t Astros did last year getting Verlander in ing September. Yeah but the only reason the Astros were able to do that is because Verlander passed through because nobody else wanted to take on the rest of his contract. If the Yankees try that after July 31, the pitcher would have to have a ton of money left to not get claimed, and that's likely going to push the Yankees over the 197. Yanks are not winning the World Series this year. They should just stand their ground and see what happens, and fix the team in the offseason via trades and FA signings once the luxury tax penalty is reset. |
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Post by LK3 on Jul 23, 2018 2:57:05 GMT -5
If they can get Happ or Hamels for prospects we're willing to trade, as in nobody in our top 10 or even further, then yeah I'm all for it. But if not, ok.. we'll pass, and maybe give Justus Sheffield a shot. Sonny Gray is kind of the key IMO... if we can rely on him to not get blown up, and only worry about the 5th starter, things might go more smoothly with the rotation.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 23, 2018 19:03:34 GMT -5
If they can get Happ or Hamels for prospects we're willing to trade, as in nobody in our top 10 or even further, then yeah I'm all for it. But if not, ok.. we'll pass, and maybe give Justus Sheffield a shot. Sonny Gray is kind of the key IMO... if we can rely on him to not get blown up, and only worry about the 5th starter, things might go more smoothly with the rotation. I would trade Sonny Gray to a small market team that's on the fringe. His home/away splits show that he's got value away from Yankee Stadium. Obviously nobody is going to buy high on Sonny Gray based on his overall season, but getting rid of him is addition by subtraction just because he's been soooo bad for us that we kinda can't afford to keep sending him out there. Maybe we get a few mid level prospects and somebody turns into something at some point. OR a small market team is looking to shed a big contact and that might be where we might be able to get a good pitcher, but the price might push us over 197. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 23, 2018 21:41:56 GMT -5
You know what? Joe Girardi was right. I know it probably cost him his job because everyone said he didn't connect with a "young team", but the way he handled Gary Sanchez last year was 100% correct.
Gary Sanchez is the new Cano. He'd lazy, he's arrogant, he refuses to attempt to make any improvements in his game.....I don't know what to make of him anymore.
If the Yankees can sign Machado or Harper in the offseason, I'd seriously consider trading Sanchez for a pitcher.
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Post by BROKEN on Jul 24, 2018 13:45:46 GMT -5
You know what? Joe Girardi was right. I know it probably cost him his job because everyone said he didn't connect with a "young team", but the way he handled Gary Sanchez last year was 100% correct. Gary Sanchez is the new Cano. He'd lazy, he's arrogant, he refuses to attempt to make any improvements in his game.....I don't know what to make of him anymore. If the Yankees can sign Machado or Harper in the offseason, I'd seriously consider trading Sanchez for a pitcher. I’ve been preaching it. Romine is a great team player who works well with Gray, got him out of a bad funk, as well as with other pitchers. Teams will give a good quality starter for Sanchez. Boone is too soft on these guys. |
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Post by LK3 on Jul 24, 2018 16:27:57 GMT -5
Let’s not pretend that Romine has helped Gray. He’s caught him all year. Gray has simply been terrible most of the year.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 25, 2018 19:25:59 GMT -5
Andre Ethier retired. He made $35 million in 2016-2017 and played 38 games with 13 hits. Yikes.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 26, 2018 13:41:31 GMT -5
Yanks trade Drury and McKinney for JA Happ.
So between this trade and Cody Carroll, Josh Rogers and Dillon Tate for Britton the other day, Cashman has wasted 5 players for 2 guys who won't even be on the team next year and the Yankees are still not winning the World Series, or even their own DIVISION, this year.
What a waste.
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Post by BROKEN on Jul 26, 2018 15:34:27 GMT -5
Yanks trade Drury and McKinney for JA Happ. So between this trade and Cody Carroll, Josh Rogers and Dillon Tate for Britton the other day, Cashman has wasted 5 players for 2 guys who won't even be on the team next year and the Yankees are still not winning the World Series, or even their own DIVISION, this year. What a waste. Those guys for Britton were all rule 5 draft eligible this year. We would have lost them for nothing. Drury wasn’t going to play for us anyways. Not really a waste. |
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 26, 2018 16:21:26 GMT -5
Yanks trade Drury and McKinney for JA Happ. So between this trade and Cody Carroll, Josh Rogers and Dillon Tate for Britton the other day, Cashman has wasted 5 players for 2 guys who won't even be on the team next year and the Yankees are still not winning the World Series, or even their own DIVISION, this year. What a waste. Those guys for Britton were all rule 5 draft eligible this year. We would have lost them for nothing. Drury wasn’t going to play for us anyways. Not really a waste. They might have protected Tate by putting him on the 40 man, and I feel like we could have gotten more for Drury than 2 months and one week of JA Happ. Toronto gets Drury for 4 years. And let's say GOD FORBID the Yankees lose Didi to free agency, IF you still had Drury you could put Gleyber at short and had Drury take 2nd because again, I'd always rather the Yankees put their money into staring pitchers than position players. |
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Post by LK3 on Jul 26, 2018 16:43:08 GMT -5
Drury didn’t really get much of a chance this year, but he did squat for us. Not really a place for him, IMO. I am pleased with both deals.
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Post by LA Times on Jul 26, 2018 17:12:39 GMT -5
JA will be Happ-y winning a World Series with the Yankees
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Post by Chip on Jul 26, 2018 17:16:38 GMT -5
i like both trades for the yankees....gave up a bunch of whatevers for legit pitchers. they need help with pitching more than anything. maybe Happ pitches well and they sign him cheap next year? montgomery isnt coming back any time soon and clearly they dont think any of the guys in AAA are ready.
Britton is legit, and again could be a guy they sign in the offseason too. its not a guaranteed rental, but adding both of those guys makes the team better
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