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Post by Midnight on Apr 4, 2016 13:32:27 GMT -5
They should re-pair Heyman with Cesaro and give him a good push.
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Post by Warrior82 on Apr 4, 2016 14:42:55 GMT -5
Simply put, HELL YAY to the push! This guy is fantastic! He puts on an amazing performance every, single, time. I think he should win the IC and US Titles before finally getting to that point where he is getting World Title opportunities, but I 100% believe this guy should be in the Main Event scene.
I honestly feel like they wouldn't ever give him the WWE Title, but I would lol. Maybe have him win MITB, and cash in on someone. Still, even if he doesn't win the WWE Title, he should win plenty of IC, US, and Tag Titles, and be in the Main Event picture getting World Title matches, if for no other reason than to make the Main Event scene look good with some top quality matches and performances that this guy can give.
And I know he isn't great on the mic, but he doesn't need to be! His performances speak for themselves. I always thought people like Daniel Bryan, and even my favorite Bret Hart weren't great on the mic. Just guys talking. Nothing flashy, nothing bad ass, nothing hilarious, and sometimes even with mess ups in delivery. But their matches, and performance meant SO much more.
And Hell, our current World Champ Roman Reigns blows on the mic. I cringe every time he opens his mouth to speak, and I like Roman.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Apr 4, 2016 14:44:53 GMT -5
Main event, of course not. But midcard, maybe. He's much better in tag teams than singles though.
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Post by cordless2016 on Apr 4, 2016 20:24:48 GMT -5
Yay. I don't know how out of his mind Vince has to be to seriously believe that Cesaro doesn't connect with the crowd yet thinks Reigns does.
People crap on Cesaro's mic skills but it's not like Roman is any better. Plus the guy got over with his wrestling. Let that be what pushed him to the top.
You put Cesaro against HHH last night and I doubt they sell any less tickets to WM.
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Post by LostHawk05 on Apr 4, 2016 22:32:36 GMT -5
They should re-pair Heyman with Cesaro and give him a good push. Re-pair him with Heyman and make sure he doesn't spend half the promo talking about his other client and do the job we all know he can do and get Cesaro over more so then he already is. Typical promo from their last run: 'My name is Paul Heyman...words words words....BROCCCK LESSSNAR.....words words words.....the 1 in 21-1....words words words....THE BEAST INCARNATE......words words words....oh yeah, and this is Cesaro' And they wonder why it didn't work.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Apr 4, 2016 22:49:19 GMT -5
They need to figure out what to do wth him. He's got the look and is obviously insane in the ring, but has no character and hasn't shown any spark on the mic. I'm curious what Paul Heyman would do with him.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 4, 2016 22:53:05 GMT -5
Cesaro is legit. He's long due a main event push.
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Post by Falconsinclair on Apr 4, 2016 23:01:21 GMT -5
They should re-pair Heyman with Cesaro and give him a good push. Re-pair him with Heyman and make sure he doesn't spend half the promo talking about his other client and do the job we all know he can do and get Cesaro over more so then he already is. Typical promo from their last run: 'My name is Paul Heyman...words words words....BROCCCK LESSSNAR.....words words words.....the 1 in 21-1....words words words....THE BEAST INCARNATE......words words words....oh yeah, and this is Cesaro' And they wonder why it didn't work. I was coming here to say exactly this lol. Heyman with Cesaro would have worked if Heyman didn't spend 99.9999999999999% of every promo with Cesaro standing beside him talking about Brock Lesnar. At the very least once they split Cesaro and Heyman up they should of had Cesaro step up an challenge Lesnar saying if it wasn't for Heyman holding him down by going on and on and on and on about Lesnar Cesaro would have been a top draw by now.
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Post by Midnight on Apr 5, 2016 8:50:12 GMT -5
They should re-pair Heyman with Cesaro and give him a good push. Re-pair him with Heyman and make sure he doesn't spend half the promo talking about his other client and do the job we all know he can do and get Cesaro over more so then he already is. Typical promo from their last run: 'My name is Paul Heyman...words words words....BROCCCK LESSSNAR.....words words words.....the 1 in 21-1....words words words....THE BEAST INCARNATE......words words words....oh yeah, and this is Cesaro' And they wonder why it didn't work. True, if not for that I think the pairing would've been great. When Heyman is with Lesnar talk all about Lesnar but when/if he's with a new client, only talk about said client.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Apr 5, 2016 11:02:53 GMT -5
Who was Batista managed by during his early days as a top guy? Brocks face run he surely didn't have a manager. Who said Cesaro couldn't have a manager? Edit: And sh**, the man in your avi could be added to the list. Goldberg couldn't cut a promo to save his life. Flair and HHH Edit: Goldberg is the exception to all rules. He was forced down our throats harder than Reigns and was super over In his early days as a top face, Batista had turned on HHH and Flair. He was alone.
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Post by Kanenite on Apr 5, 2016 11:48:52 GMT -5
Flair and HHH Edit: Goldberg is the exception to all rules. He was forced down our throats harder than Reigns and was super over In his early days as a top face, Batista had turned on HHH and Flair. He was alone. And walked inside a pit of danger in fact.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Apr 5, 2016 12:02:34 GMT -5
No because he would get destroyed every time he shared a promo with someone. He's great in ring, but he is just not a WWE Champion. His lack of promo ability means he'll probably never be at that level. Exactly this if he had someone to talk for him he could do well but they botched it with Heyman. Unless he's taking charisma classed now while he's recovering I don't see him going further than IC title or being a number in a fatal 4way for the WWE title. I think this is one of my biggest pet peeves with wrestling fans. Those that think charisma and mic skills are the same thing. Cesaro has charisma.
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Post by jcjdotcom on Apr 5, 2016 13:07:49 GMT -5
That's a great point. Cesaro has charisma, but he's not great on the mic. I love the suit look from last night. I think playing an arrogant, "better than you" European heel would work, even with his mic skills.
Also, as others have pointed out, his mic skills are no worse than Roman's, and he is the greatest thing to hit the WWE since Cena.
Finally, I'm a huge fan and I've never seen any of his indy matches, nor did I ever see him in NXT. I've only seen him in the WWE so he's not just an indy darling.
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Post by Infinite on Apr 5, 2016 14:11:40 GMT -5
You guys remember Daniel Bryan? Dude was basically horrible on the mic. Cesaro just needs a hook; like literally one dumb thing he does or says that people can mimic and he will be a massive deal. Some weird priorities when people want to see the pretty, tanned guy wrestle mediocre matches instead of a ing godly athlete tear the house down every night. Am I saying Cesaro can be the Rock? No. But Roman Reigns can't be either and I sure as hell know who I'd prefer to see wrestle Aj Styles in PPV main events.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Apr 5, 2016 14:53:08 GMT -5
I say yes, he should get a Main Event type push. But sadly, I think he is just there to get the crowd going and make everyone he works with look good...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 15:01:58 GMT -5
Exactly this if he had someone to talk for him he could do well but they botched it with Heyman. Unless he's taking charisma classed now while he's recovering I don't see him going further than IC title or being a number in a fatal 4way for the WWE title. I think this is one of my biggest pet peeves with wrestling fans. Those that think charisma and mic skills are the same thing. Cesaro has charisma. Yeah, for lack of a better term, Cesaro just has a certain swagger about him in the way he carries himself. He has a natural charisma for sure, but it doesn't translate to his mic skills. I feel the same way about Apollo Crews.
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Post by Mox on Apr 5, 2016 15:05:49 GMT -5
Cesaro is legit. He's long due a main event push. Truer words have never been spoken. The man is literally one of the best wrestlers alive right now. The fact that he still hasn't broken through just means WWE are doing it wrong.
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Post by jdfranchise on Apr 5, 2016 15:25:53 GMT -5
You guys remember Daniel Bryan? Dude was basically horrible on the mic. Cesaro just needs a hook; like literally one dumb thing he does or says that people can mimic and he will be a massive deal. Some weird priorities when people want to see the pretty, tanned guy wrestle mediocre matches instead of a ing godly athlete tear the house down every night. Am I saying Cesaro can be the Rock? No. But Roman Reigns can't be either and I sure as hell know who I'd prefer to see wrestle Aj Styles in PPV main events. This basically, but I want to piggyback off it. I think Caesaro is the complete package personally. He is over because of his wrestling, good solid look, and I thought the Superman suit entrance last night was a stroke of genius. His mic skills are average, but a lot of legends had average mic skills at the start and worked into component mic workers (Bret is the prime example). It's really a matter of comfort in front of the camera and figuring out how to take the pre written promos they give guys and make it his own. I'll give you an example of how comfort works. I recently got my teaching license, and in my student teaching experience I learned there are two aspects of audience interaction. 1. Build rapport with them, which is something Caesaro has done with his matches and physical charisma. 2. Find that comfort speaking in front of them to get your point across in a way that gets them to believe in you. This is what Caesaro needs to work on and it just comes with time. Some guys get it earlier and easier than others, but to say Caesaro is doomed to the midcard is ignorant and not a fair assessment of his abilities. If he's worked that hard to become good in the ring, he has the work ethic to tighten up the holes in his game.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Apr 5, 2016 17:01:47 GMT -5
I think this is one of my biggest pet peeves with wrestling fans. Those that think charisma and mic skills are the same thing. Cesaro has charisma. Yeah, for lack of a better term, Cesaro just has a certain swagger about him in the way he carries himself. He has a natural charisma for sure, but it doesn't translate to his mic skills. I feel the same way about Apollo Crews. Apollo Crews is so much like Cesaro in this regard and I never thought of it until I read that comparison. He to is very good in the ring and has a natural charisma that he exudes but he is pretty poopy on the microphone. It's not like either of them are bad when compared to Roman and I'd like to believe a lot of the times the "bad talkers" are actually just bad script reciters.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 5, 2016 17:24:19 GMT -5
Cesaro is legit. He's long due a main event push. Truer words have never been spoken. The man is literally one of the best wrestlers alive right now. The fact that he still hasn't broken through just means WWE are doing it wrong. Its funny how Vince says he is a fan of Cesaro, but cant use him in the main event, as he has not been able to find a way to connect with the crowd. Vince went onto say on the Stone Cold podcast that WWE continues to find new ways to get Cesaro connected and none have worked and he cant figure out why. Funny....dude looks super over to me.
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