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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 21, 2016 15:48:59 GMT -5
For those that missed it, here's McGregor's official statement that he made earlier:
I am just trying to do my job and fight here.
I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
Nothing else was going through my mind.
It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a  morning show did not get me this life.
Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
I'm coming for my revenge here.
I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
But it was denied.
There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
And all with one tweet.
Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
I must isolate myself now.
I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
I can not dance for you this time.
It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
He came in with no crapto do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
I'm doing what I need for me now.
It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
For the record also -
For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
I AM NOT RETIRED. |
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Post by Patrick Bateman (original) on Apr 21, 2016 16:27:38 GMT -5
Dana has said Conor lost his shot at redemption, he is still off UFC 200. And will fight the winner of Aldo/Edgar next.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 21, 2016 16:42:09 GMT -5
Dana has said Conor lost his shot at redemption, he is still off UFC 200. And will fight the winner of Aldo/Edgar next. I'm probably in the minority - but I'd actually prefer to see McGregor defend against Aldo or (especially) Edgar, than a rematch with Diaz... |
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on Apr 21, 2016 16:47:57 GMT -5
Dana has said Conor lost his shot at redemption, he is still off UFC 200. And will fight the winner of Aldo/Edgar next. I'm probably in the minority - but I'd actually prefer to see McGregor defend against Aldo or (especially) Edgar, than a rematch with Diaz... Nope, I definitely agree with ya Hulk. The fight I've been waiting to see is him vs Edgar. I know Frankie will dominate him badly with his wrestling. The dude is a great fighter, he just has to get past Aldo now. Huge fan of both (Aldo and Edgar) but Frankie's been overlooked for a while now and deserves his shot. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 21, 2016 18:31:16 GMT -5
Dana has said Conor lost his shot at redemption, he is still off UFC 200. And will fight the winner of Aldo/Edgar next. Then Dana has made a bad decision move. Doubtful he cant put together UFC 200 and draw like it would if Connor/Diaz 2 was happening. I side with Connor on this, but also understand Dana's position. I am sure what Dana asks of him is something he is contractually obligated to do. Connor became a victim of his own success. If he wasnt so good and successful and great at selling, less would be asked of him. But I think there is just something fundamentally wrong with UFC contracts. Its sort of like WWE. The company OWNS you and the fighters/wrestlers sign these deals because its their dream. If UFC and WWE had legit competition, I think it would be easier for talent to refuse signing and negotiate. But there isnt. Connor is a prideful man. He took his loss like a REAL man should. And he wanted another chance. He feels he is better. So he wanted to go and correct the mistakes he made, be better prepared for Diaz and show the world he could move up in weight and dominate there too. So he put his plan together and off he went. While Dana is free to force Connor to do this or that...its just not fair to burden him with more than Diaz, more than other fighters. They should be able to find some happy medium and it seems Connor is trying to do that. I hope they work things out. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 18:22:14 GMT -5
Dana has said Conor lost his shot at redemption, he is still off UFC 200. And will fight the winner of Aldo/Edgar next. Then Dana has made a bad decision move. Doubtful he cant put together UFC 200 and draw like it would if Connor/Diaz 2 was happening. I side with Connor on this, but also understand Dana's position. I am sure what Dana asks of him is something he is contractually obligated to do. Connor became a victim of his own success. If he wasnt so good and successful and great at selling, less would be asked of him. But I think there is just something fundamentally wrong with UFC contracts. Its sort of like WWE. The company OWNS you and the fighters/wrestlers sign these deals because its their dream. If UFC and WWE had legit competition, I think it would be easier for talent to refuse signing and negotiate. But there isnt. Connor is a prideful man. He took his loss like a REAL man should. And he wanted another chance. He feels he is better. So he wanted to go and correct the mistakes he made, be better prepared for Diaz and show the world he could move up in weight and dominate there too. So he put his plan together and off he went. While Dana is free to force Connor to do this or that...its just not fair to burden him with more than Diaz, more than other fighters. They should be able to find some happy medium and it seems Connor is trying to do that. I hope they work things out. I completely support Dana White. If he were to give in, it would set an awful precedent for the sport. Big name fighters could start ransoming pay-per-views and duck out fights altogether (that's one of the main factors that crippled Boxing). Yes, if Connor was back on, they would probably make a lot more money. But the longtime effects wouldn't be worth it. And to be honest, he's being a little bitch about it. The UFC made him a multi-millionaire. Yes, he brought them a lot more money. But that's how it goes. One hand washes the other. He would be nothing without the UFC. But the UFC would still be something without him. He is not, and cannot, be bigger than the sport. If they put him back on the card, they're basically conceding just that. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 26, 2016 22:24:07 GMT -5
Then Dana has made a bad decision move. Doubtful he cant put together UFC 200 and draw like it would if Connor/Diaz 2 was happening. I side with Connor on this, but also understand Dana's position. I am sure what Dana asks of him is something he is contractually obligated to do. Connor became a victim of his own success. If he wasnt so good and successful and great at selling, less would be asked of him. But I think there is just something fundamentally wrong with UFC contracts. Its sort of like WWE. The company OWNS you and the fighters/wrestlers sign these deals because its their dream. If UFC and WWE had legit competition, I think it would be easier for talent to refuse signing and negotiate. But there isnt. Connor is a prideful man. He took his loss like a REAL man should. And he wanted another chance. He feels he is better. So he wanted to go and correct the mistakes he made, be better prepared for Diaz and show the world he could move up in weight and dominate there too. So he put his plan together and off he went. While Dana is free to force Connor to do this or that...its just not fair to burden him with more than Diaz, more than other fighters. They should be able to find some happy medium and it seems Connor is trying to do that. I hope they work things out. I completely support Dana White. If he were to give in, it would set an awful precedent for the sport. Big name fighters could start ransoming pay-per-views and duck out fights altogether (that's one of the main factors that crippled Boxing). Yes, if Connor was back on, they would probably make a lot more money. But the longtime effects wouldn't be worth it. And to be honest, he's being a little bitch about it. The UFC made him a multi-millionaire. Yes, he brought them a lot more money. But that's how it goes. One hand washes the other. He would be nothing without the UFC. But the UFC would still be something without him. He is not, and cannot, be bigger than the sport. If they put him back on the card, they're basically conceding just that. You dont think its unfair for Connor to leave his training to do this, while Diaz is not being forced to do the same? How is it fair that one fighter is restricted in the amount of training they can do and the other is not? |
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Post by Kollector_Kombat on Apr 26, 2016 22:56:47 GMT -5
I completely support Dana White. If he were to give in, it would set an awful precedent for the sport. Big name fighters could start ransoming pay-per-views and duck out fights altogether (that's one of the main factors that crippled Boxing). Yes, if Connor was back on, they would probably make a lot more money. But the longtime effects wouldn't be worth it. And to be honest, he's being a little bitch about it. The UFC made him a multi-millionaire. Yes, he brought them a lot more money. But that's how it goes. One hand washes the other. He would be nothing without the UFC. But the UFC would still be something without him. He is not, and cannot, be bigger than the sport. If they put him back on the card, they're basically conceding just that. You dont think its unfair for Connor to leave his training to do this, while Diaz is not being forced to do the same? How is it fair that one fighter is restricted in the amount of training they can do and the other is not? Diaz DID leave from where he was training to go to the Vegas Presser just this last weekend. As did Aldo, Dos Anjos, Eddie Alvarez and nearly the rest of the fighters who showed. It's part of there contract. Conor knew what he signed up for and if he wants to think he is somehow above the company, Dana has every right to pull him off the card. Dana even said that back in the day, Jose Aldo missed his sister's wedding to promote a fight and didn't nag once. Nick Diaz was pulled from different events at least twice for no-showing pressers. He had to earn his way back to a title shot, by showing up to the press confrences he had to promote. And take different fights. Just like McGregor is going to have to do. At least he didn't get his title stripped, because that was definitely the next stepnif Conor wanted to think he was more important than the company itself. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 22:58:34 GMT -5
I completely support Dana White. If he were to give in, it would set an awful precedent for the sport. Big name fighters could start ransoming pay-per-views and duck out fights altogether (that's one of the main factors that crippled Boxing). Yes, if Connor was back on, they would probably make a lot more money. But the longtime effects wouldn't be worth it. And to be honest, he's being a little bitch about it. The UFC made him a multi-millionaire. Yes, he brought them a lot more money. But that's how it goes. One hand washes the other. He would be nothing without the UFC. But the UFC would still be something without him. He is not, and cannot, be bigger than the sport. If they put him back on the card, they're basically conceding just that. You dont think its unfair for Connor to leave his training to do this, while Diaz is not being forced to do the same? How is it fair that one fighter is restricted in the amount of training they can do and the other is not? Nate Diaz was there doing his job and promoting the event. Connor flat out tried to muscle the UFC into giving him more money or excusing him from promotion, which is just something you cannot do, especially when you're in the main event of the biggest MMA event in history and you're known for your trashtalking. After all the money he has made and having the privilege of having an immediate rematch (something Aldo and Holm were denied) at freakin' UFC 200, he took himself way too seriously and cost himself the spot. And the continuous mindgames he is playing is not helping his case. He should just go to WWE LOL. He would fit perfectly. His promos would be killer. |
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Post by bigshab421 on Apr 27, 2016 8:17:08 GMT -5
You dont think its unfair for Connor to leave his training to do this, while Diaz is not being forced to do the same? How is it fair that one fighter is restricted in the amount of training they can do and the other is not? As did Aldo, Dos Anjos, Eddie Alvarez and nearly the rest of the fighters who showed. It's part of there contract. Conor knew what he signed up for and if he wants to think he is somehow above the company, Dana has every right to pull him off the card. Dana even said that back in the day, Jose Aldo missed his sister's wedding to promote a fight and didn't nag once. Nick Diaz was pulled from different events at least twice for no-showing pressers. He had to earn his way back to a title shot, by showing up to the press confrences he had to promote. And take different fights. Just like McGregor is going to have to do. At least he didn't get his title stripped, because that was definitely the next stepnif Conor wanted to think he was more important than the company itself.If everybody else has to go and promote it, McGregor should not be exempt. He is not bigger than the sport and never will be. UFC was great before him and will be great after him. Me personally, am glad that Dana yanked him off the card. You can't try to muscle your boss into even MORE preferential treatment and monetary compensation. I honestly wish Dana would just strip him of the 145 belt. He has been incumbent, and seemingly has no plans to defend it. The best part about this though is that either way, his next fight will completely take away any aura this poser has. Diaz will get him again, Aldo would show it was a lucky punch and handle him, and Edgar.......man idk if I ever seen a guy that wanted to destroy Conor worse, and Edgar I believe would make it happen. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Apr 27, 2016 14:20:37 GMT -5
You dont think its unfair for Connor to leave his training to do this, while Diaz is not being forced to do the same? How is it fair that one fighter is restricted in the amount of training they can do and the other is not? Diaz DID leave from where he was training to go to the Vegas Presser just this last weekend. As did Aldo, Dos Anjos, Eddie Alvarez and nearly the rest of the fighters who showed. It's part of there contract. Conor knew what he signed up for and if he wants to think he is somehow above the company, Dana has every right to pull him off the card. Dana even said that back in the day, Jose Aldo missed his sister's wedding to promote a fight and didn't nag once. Nick Diaz was pulled from different events at least twice for no-showing pressers. He had to earn his way back to a title shot, by showing up to the press confrences he had to promote. And take different fights. Just like McGregor is going to have to do. At least he didn't get his title stripped, because that was definitely the next stepnif Conor wanted to think he was more important than the company itself. Correct me if I am wrong, but what was asked of Diaz vs. what was being asked of Connor are not one in the same. I understand what the contract states. And legally, Dana has the right to do it. But I am not discussing legality. I am discussing right and wrong. Dana has had issues with almost every big name fighter in the UFC. Connor should not be a victim of his own success. Because all that does is set him up for failure and future money lost for both him and UFC. |
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Post by attitudesback on Apr 27, 2016 16:08:55 GMT -5
a presser. McGregor got more people interested in the UFC 200 event with one tweet then the rest of these goons could in 45 conferences. |
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Apr 28, 2016 11:38:59 GMT -5
He wouldn't be believable in the world of the WWE - he's literally a vanilla midget.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 23:00:31 GMT -5
He wouldn't be believable in the world of the WWE - he's literally a vanilla midget. I have a hell of a lot more belief in Conor hanging with the best in WWE than ing Daniel Bryan beating the likes of John Cena and Triple H. |
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Post by Johnny Mason on Apr 28, 2016 23:11:25 GMT -5
He wouldn't be believable in the world of the WWE - he's literally a vanilla midget. I have a hell of a lot more belief in Conor hanging with the best in WWE than ing Daniel Bryan beating the likes of John Cena and Triple H. Everything u say annoys me. Lol |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 23:13:25 GMT -5
I have a hell of a lot more belief in Conor hanging with the best in WWE than ing Daniel Bryan beating the likes of John Cena and Triple H. Everything u say annoys me. Lol  |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 29, 2016 11:23:24 GMT -5
Under the circumstances, I think the UFC could have been more accommodating to McGregor - he's done ALL that has been asked of him and more recently: when Aldo pulled out their fight, McGregor could have easily said he didn't want to fight anyone else on such short notice - but he took the fight with Mendes, a top ranked fighter and very dangerous guy. If he didn't, the event would probably have been cancelled. Same when Dos Anjos pulled out of their Lightweight title fight... McGregor AGAIN says he'll fight anyone on short-notice (to save the event) - and even when Diaz couldn't make Lightweight, McGregor says he'll take the fight at Welterweight (2 divisions above his weight - and a weight at which he's never fought before). Not to mention, McGregor was the main reason these events did such big business in the first place... was it really too much to ask to miss a press-conference/video shoot, while seriously training for the rematch of his first UFC loss? I don't think it would set a bad or unhealthy precedent... it's a one-off - and given what McGregor has done for the company (fighting anyone at short-notice - TWICE), and how much he's made them, then maybe he could have been allowed a little leeway.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 1, 2016 12:10:42 GMT -5
Under the circumstances, I think the UFC could have been more accommodating to McGregor - he's done ALL that has been asked of him and more recently: when Aldo pulled out their fight, McGregor could have easily said he didn't want to fight anyone else on such short notice - but he took the fight with Mendes, a top ranked fighter and very dangerous guy. If he didn't, the event would probably have been cancelled. Same when Dos Anjos pulled out of their Lightweight title fight... McGregor AGAIN says he'll fight anyone on short-notice (to save the event) - and even when Diaz couldn't make Lightweight, McGregor says he'll take the fight at Welterweight (2 divisions above his weight - and a weight at which he's never fought before). Not to mention, McGregor was the main reason these events did such big business in the first place... was it really too much to ask to miss a press-conference/video shoot, while seriously training for the rematch of his first UFC loss? I don't think it would set a bad or unhealthy precedent... it's a one-off - and given what McGregor has done for the company (fighting anyone at short-notice - TWICE), and how much he's made them, then maybe he could have been allowed a little leeway. Okay let's not give too much credit here... He took those fights for himself, not for the good of UFC. And no, there is no accommodation (or special treatment for all intents and purposes) warranted here. And yes, it would absolutely set a bad precedent. It would send the message that if you are popular enough and generate a lot of money, you can muscle the UFC into giving you special treatment. That could evolve into forced matches, or even worse, ducking matches altogether. Those are the kind of actions that ruined boxing. You can't let the fighters govern the sport. If Boxing had a central body that was in control like the UFC is, Mayweather and Pacquiao would have happened years ago when it actually mattered. Do you really ever want to have a situation where there are two fighters in the same weight class who everyone wants to see fight, but it never happens because each fighter is hoisting up every wall of bureaucracy possible because they're afraid of losing? The moment UFC allows one guy to be bigger than the sport, that's the beginning of the end. I just think it's not much to ask to miss a press-conference/video shoot, after he's twice stepped up and fought different opponents at short notice to save events - including taking a fight at two weight divisions above normal, so it could be made. Not many fighters would have done that. I disagree that he took those fights just for himself - he could have easily said he didn't want to fight and wait until his original opponent was ready - on both occasions. He knew how much the UFC needed them/him though. I get what you're saying about special treatment - but it really wouldn't be saying McGregor is bigger than the sport... no-one is, or ever will be. It's not as though he does - or would do - this all the time... it would have been a one-off, under unique circumstances. I think he's deserved it - and most fighters, fans and press etc. would have totally understood the situation... as Ariel Helwani said to Dana: "the fighters both want the fight, the fans want the fight... why not just make the fight!?".  |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 2:20:53 GMT -5
Okay let's not give too much credit here... He took those fights for himself, not for the good of UFC. And no, there is no accommodation (or special treatment for all intents and purposes) warranted here. And yes, it would absolutely set a bad precedent. It would send the message that if you are popular enough and generate a lot of money, you can muscle the UFC into giving you special treatment. That could evolve into forced matches, or even worse, ducking matches altogether. Those are the kind of actions that ruined boxing. You can't let the fighters govern the sport. If Boxing had a central body that was in control like the UFC is, Mayweather and Pacquiao would have happened years ago when it actually mattered. Do you really ever want to have a situation where there are two fighters in the same weight class who everyone wants to see fight, but it never happens because each fighter is hoisting up every wall of bureaucracy possible because they're afraid of losing? The moment UFC allows one guy to be bigger than the sport, that's the beginning of the end. I just think it's not much to ask to miss a press-conference/video shoot, after he's twice stepped up and fought different opponents at short notice to save events - including taking a fight at two weight divisions above normal, so it could be made. Not many fighters would have done that. I disagree that he took those fights just for himself - he could have easily said he didn't want to fight and wait until his original opponent was ready - on both occasions. He knew how much the UFC needed them/him though. I get what you're saying about special treatment - but it really wouldn't be saying McGregor is bigger than the sport... no-one is, or ever will be. It's not as though he does - or would do - this all the time... it would have been a one-off, under unique circumstances. I think he's deserved it - and most fighters, fans and press etc. would have totally understood the situation... as Ariel Helwani said to Dana: "the fighters both want the fight, the fans want the fight... why not just make the fight!?". Yeah but then what's to stop another fighter from doing the same thing later on? It would cause this mess all over again. And then it would be a no-win situation. If UFC allowed it again, it would show that they can be leveraged and would thus lose control. If they didn't allow it, they'd be major hypocrites and would all but confirm that Connor DOES get special treatment. Dana White made the right choice. And hopefully it teaches Connor and the rest of the UFC a lesson. You have to promote the event. There's no way around it. If you can't maintain your focus to do that, well, maybe you ought to do something else. I'm a McGregor fan btw. That being said, UFC 200 will be just fine. The card is ing stacked! I can't wait! |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 18:54:51 GMT -5
looks like CM Punk is the clear-cut winner here
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