alexxx
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Post by alexxx on May 19, 2017 6:08:18 GMT -5
I don't really think Hercules became that big a star, although previous to this Herc did seem to be involved with some decent matches and PPV cards, so was definitely the more established one out of the two I think, however Paul Roma was a decent talent, he could work well in the ring and I do actually feel that he could have had a pretty good successful singles career after Power & Glory but what even did he do once Power & Glory split, I don't even know when or how they split, maybe they just faded off or something, but it does seem that they just went missing once the whole Power & Glory thing was done with.
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Post by PJ on May 19, 2017 7:00:41 GMT -5
Hercules was pretty established. I always found him to be a believable contender to all three title pictures. Roma I never felt was a contender to anything but the tag team titles. And it was a damn embarrassment when he came out as the newest Horsemen in WCW. I liked Roma best thought when he tagged with Jim Powers as the Young Stallions.
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Post by The Brain on May 19, 2017 7:46:15 GMT -5
Hercules was pretty established. I always found him to be a believable contender to all three title pictures. Roma I never felt was a contender to anything but the tag team titles. And it was a damn embarrassment when he came out as the newest Horsemen in WCW. I liked Roma best thought when he tagged with Jim Powers as the Young Stallions. Yeah that definitely was a head scratcher on their part by putting Roma of all people in the Horsemen. I liked him though in Pretty Wonderful with Orndorff.
And besides Jim Brunzell, Roma had the most picture perfect dropkick I've ever seen.
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Post by jeffro2000 on May 19, 2017 12:48:48 GMT -5
Roma had some talent and the look but I could never take him serious back then cause he was a jobber.
He like Powers were one of the good jobbers who you thought had a chance of winning but they rarely did.
Power and Glory was a decent team though.
Roma as a Horseman was sad. Just a terrible idea that someone should've vetoed.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on May 20, 2017 0:40:37 GMT -5
The Young Stallions for being 'jobbers' did face the Hart Foundation for the Tag Titles at the Sept. 87 SNME show, and also won the '87 Survivor Series match along side the Killer Bees as the only two surviving teams.
I also loved Pretty Wonderful. Roma and Orndorff vs. Stars & Stripes for the WCW Tag Titles in the Fall of '94 was always entertaining. To me, they continued on to where as the Hollywood Blondes vs. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas left off at in '93.
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Post by PJ on May 20, 2017 13:22:03 GMT -5
In a tag team such as Young Stallions, Power & Glory & even Pretty Wonderful I felt Roma was always a contender for the tag titles. But as a singles competitor I never found him as a legitimate threat to a singles title.
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Post by jeffro2000 on May 21, 2017 10:45:03 GMT -5
I forgot about Pretty Wonderful. They were a solid team.
Don't get me wrong, Roma was talented, he was just booked to lose all the time as a singles guy and with the Young Stallions except for the short run early in their formation.
I was young, so in a Kayfabe world, I didn't take him that seriously because of the losses. Power & Glory was a good spot for him and Pretty Wonderful. Never should've been a Horseman.
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Post by JimRiga on May 22, 2017 15:49:33 GMT -5
Loved Power & Glory. Cool attire, great potential. Always liked Hercules and Roma individually too. Always thought Roma should have been pushed more as he had the look and babyface moves, although like everyone else, I don't think he should have ever been in the Four Horsemen.
In the last few years he's done shoot interviews where he moans about most people he came across, even Ricky Steamboat!
I also read that a few years ago he claimed that he didn't get a decent push in WWE because Vince McMahon was JEALOUS of his looks!!!!
Hilarious, but I'm sure it had more to do with the fact that he and Jim Powers actually hated each other and Roma may not have had a great rep backstage.
I liked Jim Powers too actually, always rooted for him as he always put up a good fight before going down. I remember him and Jim Brunzell teamed up against the Beverley Brothers in late '92/early '93 and they did so well I genuinely thought they would win!
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Post by ellisd on May 22, 2017 16:58:38 GMT -5
I really liked the Superplex/Splash combo that Power and Glory did.
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Post by The Brain on May 23, 2017 10:25:39 GMT -5
I really liked the Superplex/Splash combo that Power and Glory did. The timing of the move was awesome indeed.
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Post by robbutler01 on May 25, 2017 11:56:59 GMT -5
Loved the powerplex. Lots of potential for 2 guys just put together as they had nothing going on at the time.
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Post by The Brain on May 25, 2017 12:51:23 GMT -5
Looking back on the team in retrospect, they were an all around solid team and a great addition to the tag scene of that time period. They definitely had potential to be tag champs but after they got squashed by LOD at WM 7 that was basically the end for em.
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Post by ricflair4ever on May 25, 2017 14:26:22 GMT -5
Although i can't say i was enamored with them, I'll say it was probably the best use of Hercules they had for him by then. In some ways, they were a B caliber version of the Hart Foundation. Herc the power man ala Neidhart,Roma the stylish guy ala Bret. But Roma wasn't on the same level as Bret either, so they probably accomplished all they could there. Its a shame for Roma as he never got to really break out as more than slightly above jobber status....which did him exactly zero favors once he made the jump to WCW and didn't impress during his biggest push as a Horseman. His team with Orndorff was solid though, and i would dare say he actually improved during that run. Too bad he was gone almost immediately after the team split. He might have gone on to better things at that point in his career.
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Post by rob29 on May 27, 2017 7:08:36 GMT -5
Hercules WWF career went down the toilet as soon as Power and Glory split up, Paul Roma left WWF in October of 91, aswell as Slick had stopped being there manager that very same month.
Hercules was demoted to 'jobber to the stars' in very late 1991 - and ended up leaving in early 92 (just before WM8 I believe)
whilst he wasn't the best of wrestlers, lets face it, he was no technician, I always had respect for the guy, looked after his body, never heard anything bad about the man, never heard about him being a pig backstage or anything - always struck me as being a friendly backstage wrestler to work with.
RIP Herc..... thanks for the memories.
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Post by ricflair4ever on May 27, 2017 16:12:54 GMT -5
Hercules WWF career went down the toilet as soon as Power and Glory split up, Paul Roma left WWF in October of 91, aswell as Slick had stopped being there manager that very same month. Hercules was demoted to 'jobber to the stars' in very late 1991 - and ended up leaving in early 92 (just before WM8 I believe) whilst he wasn't the best of wrestlers, lets face it, he was no technician, I always had respect for the guy, looked after his body, never heard anything bad about the man, never heard about him being a pig backstage or anything - always struck me as being a friendly backstage wrestler to work with. RIP Herc..... thanks for the memories. During his initial Hercules Hernandez days ,i thought he was gonna be a big semi monster for a while. But he got fed to Hogan quicker than he should have. But it was a good run for his style. They probably could have presented him better once he turned babyface though. I'm not saying he could have been world champion or even IC champion, but he could have been a little bigger after turning on Heenan, than they show cased him to be. As i said in my first post on this thread, by the time the Power and Glory concept came around, that was probably the best use of his talents at that point. |
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Post by The Brain on May 27, 2017 16:23:56 GMT -5
Hercules WWF career went down the toilet as soon as Power and Glory split up, Paul Roma left WWF in October of 91, aswell as Slick had stopped being there manager that very same month. Hercules was demoted to 'jobber to the stars' in very late 1991 - and ended up leaving in early 92 (just before WM8 I believe) whilst he wasn't the best of wrestlers, lets face it, he was no technician, I always had respect for the guy, looked after his body, never heard anything bad about the man, never heard about him being a pig backstage or anything - always struck me as being a friendly backstage wrestler to work with. RIP Herc..... thanks for the memories. During his initial Hercules Hernandez days ,i thought he was gonna be a big semi monster for a while. But he got fed to Hogan quicker than he should have. But it was a good run for his style. They probably could have presented him better once he turned babyface though. I'm not saying he could have been world champion or even IC champion, but he could have been a little bigger after turning on Heenan, than they show cased him to be. As i said in my first post on this thread, by the time the Power and Glory concept came around, that was probably the best use of his talents at that point. WM 6 was really the end for him in his singles run. After that he did nothing of note until they teamed him up with Roma. Little known fact but Power and Glory actually had one TV match on PTW as faces in late spring/early Summer. |
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Post by ricflair4ever on May 27, 2017 22:22:16 GMT -5
During his initial Hercules Hernandez days ,i thought he was gonna be a big semi monster for a while. But he got fed to Hogan quicker than he should have. But it was a good run for his style. They probably could have presented him better once he turned babyface though. I'm not saying he could have been world champion or even IC champion, but he could have been a little bigger after turning on Heenan, than they show cased him to be. As i said in my first post on this thread, by the time the Power and Glory concept came around, that was probably the best use of his talents at that point. WM 6 was really the end for him in his singles run. After that he did nothing of note until they teamed him up with Roma. Little known fact but Power and Glory actually had one TV match on PTW as faces in late spring/early Summer. I haven't seen that match. Learn something new daily. Thanks for that. |
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 10, 2017 19:50:04 GMT -5
I liked Power & Glory. After their victory in the Rockers feud I thought they were going after The Hart Foundation...and I think that was the plan. But when Vince signed the Nastys(at the request of Hogan & Savage) Vince forgot all about Power & Glory.
Pity they could at least have had a shot at the big one.....
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 10, 2017 20:23:55 GMT -5
I liked Power & Glory. After their victory in the Rockers feud I thought they were going after The Hart Foundation...and I think that was the plan. But when Vince signed the Nastys(at the request of Hogan & Savage) Vince forgot all about Power & Glory. Pity they could at least have had a shot at the big one..... I watched the Hart Foundation RF Video shoot, and Bret and Jim pretty much said that the reason why Power & Glory never got the straps, was because they kept going to Vince and saying, "we need the straps!! Let us beat the Harts for the straps!" So Vince went a different way with them.... and jobbed them out to the LOD in under a minute at Wrestlemania VII. |
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Post by JokerFC on Jun 11, 2017 4:10:01 GMT -5
I liked Power & Glory. After their victory in the Rockers feud I thought they were going after The Hart Foundation...and I think that was the plan. But when Vince signed the Nastys(at the request of Hogan & Savage) Vince forgot all about Power & Glory. Pity they could at least have had a shot at the big one..... I watched the Hart Foundation RF Video shoot, and Bret and Jim pretty much said that the reason why Power & Glory never got the straps, was because they kept going to Vince and saying, "we need the straps!! Let us beat the Harts for the straps!" So Vince went a different way with them.... and jobbed them out to the LOD in under a minute at Wrestlemania VII. Actually......the Nastys say something similar. Eitherway he went cool on them in favour of Knobs & Sags. Roma seems to have got under so many peoples skins.....LOL |
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