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Post by marino13 on Aug 27, 2017 9:46:11 GMT -5
I know people like to rag on scripted promos. But when they're not scripted, sometimes you get promos like this on live TV...
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Post by Decky on Aug 27, 2017 10:02:02 GMT -5
In Maggle Bay's epic masterpiece Armageddon, NASA train drillers to be astronauts.
Surely it would have been easier to train astronauts to drill a hole.
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Post by Decky on Aug 27, 2017 10:04:50 GMT -5
I know people like to rag on scripted promos. But when they're not scripted, sometimes you get promos like this on live TV... We also get career defining moments like this! |
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Post by K5 on Aug 27, 2017 11:23:40 GMT -5
the risk of the odd botched promo is worth it when compared to having to watch the scripted drivel they push out today.
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Post by Mox on Aug 27, 2017 11:45:19 GMT -5
the risk of the odd botched promo is worth it when compared to having to watch the scripted drivel they push out today. Maybe. But maybe not. The art of the promo isn't something you just learn in a class. You have to begin with a natural acting base. You either have it or you don't. The problem, and WWE knows this, is that most of the roster just doesn't have it. |
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Post by K5 on Aug 27, 2017 12:32:48 GMT -5
the risk of the odd botched promo is worth it when compared to having to watch the scripted drivel they push out today. Maybe. But maybe not. The art of the promo isn't something you just learn in a class. You have to begin with a natural acting base. You either have it or you don't. The problem, and WWE knows this, is that most of the roster just doesn't have it. i really disagree. i'll go back to the example that i always go to, the original ecw. paul heyman took a group of guys most would have considered better off in jail or working at mcdonalds and pulled convincing, compelling, productive acting out of the majority of them. you're also simply wrong about rather you 'have it or you don't'. look at bret hart - had to wear sunglasses because he was so nervous and stumbled through promos. by the time he left the company he was their biggest heel and had a whole angle with hating the usa that was fueled by his promos. the issue with wwe is like an interfering boss - they won't just let the boys work. if you're taking guys and making them do absolute crap promos that stink of redundancy, you can't expect a convincing act. the wwe has been sterilized of creativity due to a fear of wrestlers saying or doing the wrong things at a time when one more wrestling scandal could permanently damage the company. it's not the wrestlers' fault whatsoever and you shouldn't have to be cm punk level of douchiness to break from those conditions. |
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Post by marino13 on Aug 27, 2017 13:17:26 GMT -5
All TV shows have scripts. But actors usually get weeks/months to study and practice their lines. They also have several attempts because most shows aren't live. On the other hand, WWE talent sometimes has an hour to learn a five minute promo, and then have to perform that promo in front of thousands of people and millions at home. That is too much to ask of anyone.
IMO I think they should have a writer (or two) and the talent sit down in a room and work together on a promo. Let the talent give his/her input and let the writer help them make sense of what they wanna say. Because talent deserves to help themselves get over, but I also understand WWE is a TV show. And they want to protect what is said on live TV. WWE is a business after all.
By working with a writer and possibly having an acting coach on staff, they could work on how to deliver the lines with conviction. Thus helping the talent get over, which in turn helps the WWE. If the talent has some say, they should feel more comfortable. They'll believe in what they're saying because they helped write it.
Just a thought.
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Post by SmithyPlayz on Aug 27, 2017 13:34:50 GMT -5
The issue is that they can't keep scripting promos forever. These guys won't learn. These guys need to start learning how to use the mic and how to make themselves characters, they won't be perfect at first but then they get better but holding them back will never make them learn or get good at it.
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Post by PhoeniX™: Valoween on Aug 27, 2017 16:36:41 GMT -5
I don't want another Eva Marie.
Although he wasn't an actor, they did good things with Braun Strowman. There is hope for anyone.
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Post by weaseltv on Aug 27, 2017 16:44:11 GMT -5
Glow was basically that... got a bunch of performers and taught them how to wrestle...
a couple stayed in wrestling...
If you look at it, for 5 years, you had over 80 women come thru and ended up with a handful that went on to continue in wrestling in the independent scene and you got Ivory who ended up in WWE...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2017 22:20:18 GMT -5
WWE should hire pro wrestlers
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Post by A-Rob on Aug 27, 2017 22:29:41 GMT -5
They're only going to find very few diamonds in the rough if that happens.
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Post by joshjoseph on Aug 28, 2017 0:40:09 GMT -5
Send the current wrestlers to a class.
Baron Corbin looked like he saw a ghost when the Toronto crowd called him a dumpster fire.
Roman not being able to throw "Undertaker" chants back at the crowd the other week showed that he needs to really be quicker on his feet during promos.
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Post by T R W on Aug 28, 2017 9:06:16 GMT -5
I don't know if they make these guys take improv classes, but that's definitely something they should be doing especially in the performance center a few nights a week. It teaches you how to be spontaneous, react to crowds, and to be able to adjust on the fly. Some guys have a natural talent for it, but it is something that can be learned with practice. I think it would be more beneficial than actual acting lessons.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 28, 2017 11:03:21 GMT -5
I know people like to rag on scripted promos. But when they're not scripted, sometimes you get promos like this on live TV... The botch made that promo legendary. If it was scripted it would've been forgotten instantly. |
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Post by marino13 on Aug 28, 2017 12:01:32 GMT -5
I know people like to rag on scripted promos. But when they're not scripted, sometimes you get promos like this on live TV... The botch made that promo legendary. If it was scripted it would've been forgotten instantly. I'm sure he'd be better off if people did forget about it. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 28, 2017 13:50:17 GMT -5
For all the crying about scripted promos, are there really many guys on the roster who even talk that are saying their promos are all scripted? I know Reigns and Cena have thrown it out as excuses once or twice, but they very clearly have the authority to go off-script. Reigns said on the Jericho podcast that he's been getting more involved in his own promos lately, and Cena's always gone off script when it suits him. I think Orton has said that he sticks to the scripts, though he'd also be one who can do what he wants, and he admits he's a horrible promo either way. For the most part though, the majority of the guys who get to talk regularly (Wyatt, Owens, Jericho, Ambrose, Miz, Enzo, Heyman, etc) seem to always say in interviews that they are writing their own stuff or at least have input on it. Are they just lying?
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Post by hbchris on Aug 28, 2017 17:34:56 GMT -5
Generally speaking, I don't think actors are into that level of physical punishment. That's why they use stunt doubles. Don'tcha remember Mizdow?  |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 28, 2017 17:45:06 GMT -5
The botch made that promo legendary. If it was scripted it would've been forgotten instantly. I'm sure he'd be better off if people did forget about it. I've always wondered if that's the reason why he was turned into a jobber. |
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Post by marino13 on Aug 28, 2017 17:51:29 GMT -5
I'm sure he'd be better off if people did forget about it. I've always wondered if that's the reason why he was turned into a jobber. I've always assume so. His career trajectory went straight down after that. |
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