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Post by PJ on Dec 7, 2017 22:20:16 GMT -5
Oh I forgot. Ok. But what other possible arm pose does Finn do? I wouldn't call the Too Sweet a pose They get in pretty much the same poses as the elite arms. The only difference is the biceps aren’t roatated. The rotation is now on the elbow, but the arms still end up in the same position . Meaning if you want his arms bent in front of him you don’t meet to rotate the upper arms sideways then bend the elbows. Now you rotate and bend the elbow joint. But the arm poses end u in the same positions.
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Post by JC Motors on Dec 8, 2017 8:56:12 GMT -5
I could care less about the lack of articulation since I don't play with my figures
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Post by CampCornette on Dec 8, 2017 9:13:48 GMT -5
The way things are = need to be changed! The way things are changed= leave it alone!
Aka no pleasing everyone
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Post by crashholly2002 on Dec 8, 2017 10:08:28 GMT -5
people should suffer cause Lil Jimmy don't want to play with his toys? If it's really THAT bad that a TOY can move, then you're looking at the wrong place buddy. just get a statue instead (i would've suggested gluing down the joints, but a kid could actually play with it instead)
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Dec 8, 2017 10:12:49 GMT -5
At the end of the day it's no big deal. I grew up with BCA's and TTL's and never had a problem playing with them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 13:27:00 GMT -5
At the end of the day it's no big deal. I grew up with BCA's and TTL's and never had a problem playing with them. LJNs, Hasbros and Galoobs for my childhood. People have just become jaded with collectibles.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 13:33:00 GMT -5
I'm still curious as to what is bad about the new arms if they have the exact same amount of articulation and movement as the old arms?
Can someone who has seen comparison photos that show all the exact same movement please let me know what is bad about them?
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Post by CampCornette on Dec 8, 2017 14:33:55 GMT -5
At the end of the day it's no big deal. I grew up with BCA's and TTL's and never had a problem playing with them. LJNs, Hasbros and Galoobs for my childhood. People have just become jaded with collectibles. Exactly, LJN Steamboat could do a claw, elbow drop and drop kick. People out here talking bout ankle pivots. Pfft
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Post by Boy Wonder on Dec 8, 2017 15:54:19 GMT -5
I haven't had a loose ankle on an Elite in YEARS, I don't know what you guys are buying. In fact, every Elite I've gotten since like series 15 has had too tight ankles and needed a quick hot bath (easy fix, better than loose joints)
Elbow swivels look awful and look anatomically wrong when moved.
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Post by Row on Dec 8, 2017 16:02:34 GMT -5
I guess im among the few that like the new articulation. I alway felt the extra articulation was overkill and ends up causing more problems especially with standing and the ankle joint. Even with playing I think its better because all articulation tends to make the figure contort akwardly and it becomes a pain to keep everything lineup properly, unless you do stop motion then I would say the more articulation the better
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Post by PJ on Dec 8, 2017 16:41:48 GMT -5
I haven't had a loose ankle on an Elite in YEARS, I don't know what you guys are buying. In fact, every Elite I've gotten since like series 15 has had too tight ankles and needed a quick hot bath (easy fix, better than loose joints) Elbow swivels look awful and look anatomically wrong when moved. But so did the upper arm swivel. That said I personally think way too much time is being dedicated to this topic as there has been at least one thread a week since SDCC about this. And at the end of the day it has been done by Mattel and they aren’t going to switch back no matter how much people on this board complains or not.
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 8, 2017 17:56:56 GMT -5
New arms move more realistically and can do the same poses/moves. It’s really a non issue, issue. No they don’t. Try moving your elbow side to side without moving your bicep... Arms rotate at the bicep/shoulder area, not the elbow.
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 8, 2017 18:28:41 GMT -5
New arms move more realistically and can do the same poses/moves. It’s really a non issue, issue. No they don’t. Try moving your elbow side to side without moving your bicep... Arms rotate at the bicep/shoulder area, not the elbow. While the rotation inside is at the bicep, the visual effect doesnt move the bicep. If I hold my arm down and then bend my arm up at the elbow at a right angle and then move it to the left and right, there's barely any movement with my bicep (using markings on my skin for reference) whereas my elbow has a lot more drastic of a movement. The only way I can get significant movement from the marking on my bicep is if I move my arm (at the shoulder) like I was flexing like the image on hollywood hogan's shirt (best visual reference I could give) all this being said, I just bought the Corey Graves figure today. I cant see anything these arms cant do that the others can. I dont particularly care about the look of them (skin/flesh versions) but they literally have the same articulation.
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Post by BSR on Dec 8, 2017 20:09:34 GMT -5
I won't buy another basic. They're awful.
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Post by BSR on Dec 8, 2017 20:10:34 GMT -5
No they don’t. Try moving your elbow side to side without moving your bicep... Arms rotate at the bicep/shoulder area, not the elbow. While the rotation inside is at the bicep, the visual effect doesnt move the bicep. If I hold my arm down and then bend my arm up at the elbow at a right angle and then move it to the left and right, there's barely any movement with my bicep (using markings on my skin for reference) whereas my elbow has a lot more drastic of a movement. The only way I can get significant movement from the marking on my bicep is if I move my arm (at the shoulder) like I was flexing like the image on hollywood hogan's shirt (best visual reference I could give) all this being said, I just bought the Corey Graves figure today. I cant see anything these arms cant do that the others can. I dont particularly care about the look of them (skin/flesh versions) but they literally have the same articulation. Corey graves didn't get the new arms.
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Post by Chip on Dec 8, 2017 20:12:36 GMT -5
the problem is that for almost 8 years we've had the same articulation on basics. and now there's less. so you're essentially taking something AWAY from the consumer, but charging them the same amount. not to mention they just flat out LOOK worse than the originals. i wont miss basics with loose ankle joints, but i would have preferred a solution other than "just remove them completely"
im cutting down my basic buying as it is, but it just seems really strange to me to take so much away from a basic when they are still using the same molds for elites...so why is it a cost-cutting measure?
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Post by vashts on Dec 8, 2017 21:19:45 GMT -5
Basics are dead. The price and then they removed ankles and most of the arm articulation. I cannot see basics selling well enough to last 2 more years.
The price of Basics are pretty high already imo. Elites aren't as good as Legends and have the same price point. THis is like flogging a dead horse but fans should be unhappy. Essentially they are getting less....it works in the food industry, but I think fans of figures have more commodore when being screwed.
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Post by deskjet on Dec 8, 2017 21:20:24 GMT -5
I see this going the way of hasbro Star Wars 3 3/4 inch line. Collectors will not be happy
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 8, 2017 21:53:00 GMT -5
While the rotation inside is at the bicep, the visual effect doesnt move the bicep. If I hold my arm down and then bend my arm up at the elbow at a right angle and then move it to the left and right, there's barely any movement with my bicep (using markings on my skin for reference) whereas my elbow has a lot more drastic of a movement. The only way I can get significant movement from the marking on my bicep is if I move my arm (at the shoulder) like I was flexing like the image on hollywood hogan's shirt (best visual reference I could give) all this being said, I just bought the Corey Graves figure today. I cant see anything these arms cant do that the others can. I dont particularly care about the look of them (skin/flesh versions) but they literally have the same articulation. Corey graves didn't get the new arms. you sure? cause mine doenst have the bicep/shoulder articulation and it rotates at the elbow.
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Post by BCizzle on Dec 8, 2017 21:58:12 GMT -5
I see this going the way of hasbro Star Wars 3 3/4 inch line. Collectors will not be happy When Basics get down to 5 POA, we are gonna have a problem.
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