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Post by Kyzer on Mar 15, 2018 21:52:00 GMT -5
I generally won't reply until the deadline is almost here so I can do a bunch of read & replying at once. That's ten days away. Which brings me to a minor point. I'm never going to complain about someone posting early, in fact I posted my first RP really early too. Some advice for future consideration: You have ten days so use them to your advantage. You never know what ideas may come if you give it a few days to percolate. Good lord, that reminds me...bit before most's time here, but Drakz, Kyzer, and possibly bad guy™ will remember a time when guys'd just post 2, 3, f*ckin' 4 RPs per show. It turned into a real quantity vs. quality thing (I still contend that this tactic is why I have one more L on my record as DB than I deserve). My memory could be shot to sh*t, but I've always equated Kyzer coming in and stomping everyone to sh*t as one of the real turning points in this fed when quality really began to matter - mostly 'cause everyone started trying to cop what he was doing. It got so bad at one point that you can still find old cards with RP limits. Let us never repeat this historical travesty ever again. I was doing two rps almost every show when I first got here. The quantity vs quality argument is one I completely understand, to me though, it all depends on who in the match. Like when I faced Rev Shadow, I did two rps and so did he. Those are probably the best ones I ever wrote, minus the one that had me go over Trace and Ace in a triple threat. It is a challenge to write two rps for the same match and not have them be identical. When our match happens, I don't know how I will only write one. It will probably be two. I have the bare bones done now for it. I remember sure fire first string WFWF Hall of Famer Immune once putting out SEVEN roleplays for one show. The only time I can recall ever doing multiple roleplays was if I had multiple stories running into one show. I know for one of the Drakz matches, I had two roleplays, because one was decidedly darker and running themed than the other. My own laziness stunted me from ever putting out more than that Both times we faced off we both did two rps if I am remembering right. |
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2018 4:19:55 GMT -5
I remember sure fire first string WFWF Hall of Famer Immune once putting out SEVEN roleplays for one show. Whatever i loved those! How dare you shame those seven stunning rps! I remember being briefly on that...i think my worst was a 4 part rp for scars and stripes rumble...i won tho..so..meh |
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Post by Drakz on Mar 16, 2018 15:07:09 GMT -5
This came up recently as a topic of conversation and I believe it was Drakz who summed it up best. I paraphrase from memory: "I have to read all this sh*t so please don't make me read more than one RP per character." Alternately, if I see more than one RP from a character I am going to ask "which one counts?" 'cuz I'm only reading one. Evil dictator rules!  is my favorite member here solely for his ability to best sum up a general thought on most topics. Unless my memory's crashing again, I believe it was either him or @griffin who came up with the term "Kung-Fu Hardnuts" which, to this day, still stands out as one of the most simultaneously brief and hilarious things I've ever read here. Lol. That was me. After Dex calmed down he even had that line quoted in his sig. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 16, 2018 15:52:45 GMT -5
Drakz is my favorite member here solely for his ability to best sum up a general thought on most topics. Unless my memory's crashing again, I believe it was either him or @griffin who came up with the term "Kung-Fu Hardnuts" which, to this day, still stands out as one of the most simultaneously brief and hilarious things I've ever read here. Lol. That was me. After Dex calmed down he even had that line quoted in his sig. Sheik class comment. Best of the best. In somewhat related (if only distantly WFWF related) news, after a couple of years of looking, I finally found the keywords needed to stumble upon my favorite WF post of all time. Which of you old timers can tell me about a former user by the name of cenaisraw? |
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Mar 16, 2018 21:05:41 GMT -5
Both times we faced off we both did two rps if I am remembering right. my memory is shot. I recently found some writing I had done around 10 years ago and read through it while killing time at work. it was like it was completely fresh and foreign to me |
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Post by Drakz on Mar 18, 2018 9:25:05 GMT -5
I'll take your word for it as I have no idea who that is. Watch this. Dude is f~cking crazy and is becoming a big name on the indy scene. Watched it. F*ck that style of wrestling. There's no real audience for it and it only serves to put more of a divide between you and the bigger pay days. It's an unnecessary risk for no real pay off as it gets forgotten about so quickly. People expect you to always go bigger. Your career WILL end sooner than it should. Cornette's comments on the roof bump are absolutely correct in my opinion. All I can say is I'm glad he seems to be moving away from it. |
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 18, 2018 9:33:39 GMT -5
Jesus. I thought the Mondo/Zandig one was bad...holy crap.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 18, 2018 10:14:45 GMT -5
I'm one of the most hypocritical fans of wrestling imaginable. I'm a complete and total mark for OG ECW, and I'm probably their #1 apologist to this day, but I've got absolutely no taste for any of the stuff that they clearly inspired, i.e. CZW, death match sh*t, what have you. I can't even explain it, 'cause I'll totally sit someone down and make them watch Born to be Wired in the name of education and where I found my love for ECW to begin with, but the second someone tries to counter with some Cage of Death sh*t or whatever, I'm out.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 18, 2018 10:21:26 GMT -5
I'm one of the most hypocritical fans of wrestling imaginable. I'm a complete and total mark for OG ECW, and I'm probably their #1 apologist to this day, but I've got absolutely no taste for any of the stuff that they clearly inspired, i.e. CZW, death match sh*t, what have you. I can't even explain it, 'cause I'll totally sit someone down and make them watch Born to be Wired in the name of education and where I found my love for ECW to begin with, but the second someone tries to counter with some Cage of Death sh*t or whatever, I'm out. I feel like this post, while an accurate depiction of your feelings, is also a slight attempt to summon Schneider. That being said, while I agree with you, I've seen some pretty brutal matches written here that were more brutal than anything I've seen in CZW and yet, seem more classy, if that makes any sense. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 18, 2018 10:26:34 GMT -5
I'm one of the most hypocritical fans of wrestling imaginable. I'm a complete and total mark for OG ECW, and I'm probably their #1 apologist to this day, but I've got absolutely no taste for any of the stuff that they clearly inspired, i.e. CZW, death match sh*t, what have you. I can't even explain it, 'cause I'll totally sit someone down and make them watch Born to be Wired in the name of education and where I found my love for ECW to begin with, but the second someone tries to counter with some Cage of Death sh*t or whatever, I'm out. I feel like this post, while an accurate depiction of your feelings, is also a slight attempt to summon Schneider. That being said, while I agree with you, I've seen some pretty brutal matches written here that were more brutal than anything I've seen in CZW and yet, seem more classy, if that makes any sense. I mean, nobody doesn't know what he's about. That's fine. That's why Baskin Robbins has 32 flavors. FWIW, I've already taken way more heat with people I actually know than anything left that Schneider could really dish out on me. One of the wrestling-minded groups I hang with knows a gal who dates a prominent enough member of a prominent enough roster of folk who dish out this type of product on the reg. That's fine, too. She seems cool enough. He seems cool enough. For what it's worth, this is a tangential acquaintance at best and I've never technically met either of them outside of our own threads during big time shows, but even that loose, loose personal tie isn't enough for me to clam my feelings on that just to play nice. For what it's worth even further, as much as I can gather, he doesn't seem the type to give a f*ck one way or the other - he seems happy as sh*t on an infected barbed wire wound to be doing what he's doing. I ain't begrudging anyone for doing them. Just not for me. |
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Post by Rated R on Mar 18, 2018 15:27:55 GMT -5
I'm one of the most hypocritical fans of wrestling imaginable. I'm a complete and total mark for OG ECW, and I'm probably their #1 apologist to this day, but I've got absolutely no taste for any of the stuff that they clearly inspired, i.e. CZW, death match sh*t, what have you. I can't even explain it, 'cause I'll totally sit someone down and make them watch Born to be Wired in the name of education and where I found my love for ECW to begin with, but the second someone tries to counter with some Cage of Death sh*t or whatever, I'm out. I 100% echo this. Loved ECW but I've got no time for death matches despite having written my fair share of them. I've got no problem with people who dig them, because where's the fun if we all agree on everything, but I get absolutely nothing from death matches and I don't see the appeal to them personally. |
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Post by Sizzle on Mar 18, 2018 15:45:58 GMT -5
I watched Joey Janela in BOLA against Sammy Guevara and I thought that match was shit.
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Post by Drakz on Mar 18, 2018 17:44:20 GMT -5
I watched Joey Janela in BOLA against Sammy Guevara and I thought that match was crap. Urgh Sammy Guevara has quite possibly the MOST punchable face I've ever seen. |
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Post by Kyzer on Mar 18, 2018 18:55:36 GMT -5
Joey JanelaWatch this. Dude is f~cking crazy and is becoming a big name on the indy scene. Watched it. F*ck that style of wrestling. There's no real audience for it and it only serves to put more of a divide between you and the bigger pay days. It's an unnecessary risk for no real pay off as it gets forgotten about so quickly. People expect you to always go bigger. Your career WILL end sooner than it should. Cornette's comments on the roof bump are absolutely correct in my opinion. All I can say is I'm glad he seems to be moving away from it. I don't see Janela as a death match guy. I see him more as a Mick Foley but with a more natural heel disposition. His style for me is a nice break from what I see every where else. Everyone is either copying New Japan or the style PWG has popularized the last five years. I am not a death match person but CZW has some of the best storylines in the indies and a complete variety of wrestling. |
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Post by Kyzer on Mar 18, 2018 18:57:13 GMT -5
I watched Joey Janela in BOLA against Sammy Guevara and I thought that match was crap. That match was bad, but everything else he has done in PWG has been solid. He has been on every card since then. I went to Joey Janela's Spring Break last year in Orlando and his match with Marty Jannetty was way better than I expected. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 19, 2018 8:32:56 GMT -5
I always squee with a bit of delight when I get to use a word of increased value in my RPs. I don't know that I'd ever sought the chance to use it before, but man was I thrilled when "cartilaginous" popped up in my brain during this morning's little jot session.
All the better, I think, that it's immediately followed by the word "sack".
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Post by Sizzle on Mar 19, 2018 19:54:15 GMT -5
Watched it. F*ck that style of wrestling. There's no real audience for it and it only serves to put more of a divide between you and the bigger pay days. It's an unnecessary risk for no real pay off as it gets forgotten about so quickly. People expect you to always go bigger. Your career WILL end sooner than it should. Cornette's comments on the roof bump are absolutely correct in my opinion. All I can say is I'm glad he seems to be moving away from it. I don't see Janela as a death match guy. I see him more as a Mick Foley but with a more natural heel disposition. His style for me is a nice break from what I see every where else. Everyone is either copying New Japan or the style PWG has popularized the last five years. I am not a death match person but CZW has some of the best storylines in the indies and a complete variety of wrestling. This is my least favorite thing about the growth in popularity of those promotions. Nowadays, most people won’t see a match as good if it doesn’t fit into these categories or it is rated a certain star rating. |
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Post by Kyzer on Mar 19, 2018 23:06:30 GMT -5
I don't see Janela as a death match guy. I see him more as a Mick Foley but with a more natural heel disposition. His style for me is a nice break from what I see every where else. Everyone is either copying New Japan or the style PWG has popularized the last five years. I am not a death match person but CZW has some of the best storylines in the indies and a complete variety of wrestling. This is my least favorite thing about the growth in popularity of those promotions. Nowadays, most people won’t see a match as good if it doesn’t fit into these categories or it is rated a certain star rating. 100% agree. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 20, 2018 3:37:58 GMT -5
I like wrestling. The best way to improve the star rating of any match is to just give it your own.
My favorite match of all time is generally regarded as one of the best of all time in a lot of circles. Some of my other matches have gotten 1-2 stars from the Mave Deltzer. Baskin Robbins has 32 flavors. I'm not gonna stop liking Rocky Road just cause somebody who eats a lot of ice cream doesn't.
In other news, I will be relatively off the grid today from about 5am til likely 9pm. Election Day. See y'all on the other side.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Mar 20, 2018 8:25:03 GMT -5
to no point has NJPW truthfully appealed to me and I've readily had access to it for the last 2 decades. I've given it countless fair chances. the closest NJPW did get to appealing to me is regarded as the lowest point, when they were doing a lot of worked shoots.
My absolute favorite wrestling match in 2017 happened to be one I also edited. Mance Warner versus Anthony Henry from IWA Mid South Simply the Best. It was just about the perfect match for me. Two guys hitting each other hard in believable ways but still trying to win the match. An out of control brawl when things escalate beyond "I hit you and you hit me". Signature moves and sports entertainment spots played in to tell the story, and the extremely over babyface ultimately defeats the outsider. But to someone who loves WWE style spectacle, it wouldn't appeal. To someone who thinks the Young Bucks are the best around and that matches need a lot of flips? it wouldn't appeal.
I like hardcore wrestling, but hardcore wrestling doesn't mean light bulbs and barbed wire bats. Hardcore wrestling is gritty, unpolished, ballsy. Key example within a WFWF scope? I'd call the first Drakz/Schneider match a hardcore match. It was a wild brawl that manipulated the confines of a typical wrestling match in order to tell the story of two wrestlers who'd do anything to succeed.
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I dont know good luck 
