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Post by Chicago on Oct 5, 2007 16:16:31 GMT -5
nets move to bklyn plz then i would LOVE them Still about two years away, layz. Nets need something to freshen that team up now. |
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Oct 5, 2007 17:22:07 GMT -5
Hehehe Lebron is a front runner fan
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Post by thegalaxy on Oct 5, 2007 19:39:03 GMT -5
So what seed does everyone think the 76ers will get this year? 1st? 4th-5th? 8th?
(Edit: Before anyone calls me a intellectually- disabled person, I was joking. I expect another season at the bottom of the conference)
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Post by Chicago on Oct 5, 2007 20:50:58 GMT -5
Yeah, Philadelphia will be scraping the bottom of the barrel this season.
Maybe in 1-2 years they may be in the race for an 8th seed in the playoffs. If they spend their money in FA on a major player come 2008/2009 and their young rookies develop into more than just shooters, I'd give them a shot at the playoffs but nothing near that for the time being.
Completely unrelated to the topic, but, Charlotte's Sean May will miss the entire season after having microfracture knee surgery next week. Shame this guy is always on the shelf, but I don't think he would've lasted very long in the season anyways.
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Post by mindfreak310 on Oct 10, 2007 18:27:07 GMT -5
Got half season tickets to the Celtics!!! They will be awesome but since the team is old the good people like K.G., Ray Allen and Pierce wont be around to much longer
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Oct 10, 2007 19:42:22 GMT -5
Got half season tickets to the Celtics!!! They will be awesome but since the team is old the good people like K.G., Ray Allen and Pierce wont be around to much longer Like 3-5 more years, I know thats awful, TRADE EM NOW |
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Post by Welcome CC, AJ and Teixeira! on Oct 11, 2007 18:09:29 GMT -5
i love how the knicks are getting boo'd at msg, their facing maccabi and maccabi got cheered more than them! lol only new york
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Post by jdsnow14 on Oct 20, 2007 9:36:34 GMT -5
knicks lost bye 40 to the celts lol
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Post by Chicago on Oct 20, 2007 14:10:36 GMT -5
^Still, only a preseason game. How about that Nets/Celtics game getting called for ice melting underneath the court? omg global warming  |
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Post by Chicago on Oct 24, 2007 1:57:35 GMT -5
I just spent the last hour or so configuring some early predictions of the 07-08 season standings, as well as playoff results.
I didn't take the time to write out any numerical records yet, but I'll explain in small doses how I think they might look. I'm not too keen on my playoff predictions just yet as the seeding might need some work, any way, here is an early indication of what I think the season will turn out to be:
First off, the Eastern Conference…
Atlantic Division:
1. Boston Celtics (3rd seed)
2. Toronto Raptors (7th seed)
3. New York Knicks (9th place overall)
4. New Jersey Nets (10th place overall)
5. Philadelphia 76ers (13th place overall)
Explain: Boston is top dog in one of the weakest divisions overall (minus the Celtics), with Toronto guaranteed a low playoff seed and NY/NJ falling out of the wildcard race at the end of the season.
Central Division:
1. Chicago Bulls (1st seed)
2. Detroit Pistons (2nd seed)
3. Cleveland Cavaliers (4th seed)
4. Milwaukee Bucks (12th place overall)
5. Indiana Pacers (15th, or last place overall)
Explain: So incredibly difficult to decide the order of the top three, as I believe in Chicago and Detroit's success, but not so much Cleveland. All three will finish in the top four in the East this season, though. Milwaukee is still in the rebuilding process and Indiana is just in a "You know how I know you suck?" infinite argument with Philly and Charlotte come May/June.
Southeast Division:
1. Washington Wizards (5th seed)
2. Orlando Magic (6th seed)
3. Miami Heat (8th seed)
4. Atlanta Hawks (11th place overall)
5. Charlotte Bobcats (14th place overall)
Explain: I am a hometown Wizards fan, but even I can see the weakness in the Southeast this season in terms of competition. Orlando still needs another year or two to fully develop into a great team in the East whereas Miami is on its way out after an uneventful offseason and terrible preseason showing. Atlanta will improve significantly with players coming back from injuries last season whereas Charlotte has already been affected by the injury bug and the outlook looks even bleaker for them.
Now, on to the Western Conference…
Northwest Division:
1. Denver Nuggets (4th seed)
2. Utah Jazz (6th seed)
3. Seattle Supersonics (11th place overall)
4. Portland Trailblazers (12th place overall)
5. Minnesota Timberwolves (14th place overall)
Explain: I really see Denver pulling out the division in a close race with Utah this year. Both teams should fall into the middle of the playoff seedings, although I wouldn’t be surprised if even 50+ wins didn’t get them any higher in an even tougher Western Conference. Seattle, Portland and Minnesota are all young teams still trying to find their direction in the League so don’t expect any of them (notably Seattle) to pull out a surprise 8th seed appearance this season.
Pacific Division:
1. Phoenix Suns (1st seed)
2. Los Angeles Lakers (7th seed)
3. Golden State Warriors (9th place overall)
4. Sacramento Kings (10th place overall)
5. Los Angeles Clippers (15th, or last place overall)
Explain: Phoenix will dominate, LA will hang on to the 7th seed again, GS will just barely miss out on the postseason, Sac-town won’t have to worry about a postseason again and the other LA team will once again fall into obscurity after one phony playoff run two years back (injuries don’t help either).
Southwest Division:
1. San Antonio Spurs (2nd seed)
2. Dallas Mavericks (3rd seed)
3. Houston Rockets (5th seed)
4. New Orleans Hornets (8th seed)
5. Memphis Grizzlies (13th place overall)
Explain: Nearly all seedings across the board (minus Memphis). San Antonio will shine in the regular season when Dallas falls from its regular season throne. The Mavericks will still be a contender, just not as effective this time around in the 82-game marathon. Houston will pull in close to nabbing Dallas’s position close to the end of the season, but will fall back and basically share the 4th seed with Denver. I’m actually predicting New Orleans to break into the playoff stratosphere this season (much like I believe I did last season), but I believe this year it will be for real. Memphis will improve from last season, but obviously be way out of playoff contention.
So, in my next post, I’ll highlight my early playoff predictions (using the seedings above).
Thoughts? Objections? I’d like to hear your guys’ predictions as well.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 24, 2007 15:11:31 GMT -5
2008 Playoff Predictions:
First Round (based on seedings above):
(1) Chicago def (8) Miami in 6 games.
(4) Cleveland def (5) Washington in 7 games.
(3) Boston def (6) Orlando in 5 games.
(2) Detroit def (7) Toronto in 4 games.
(1) Phoenix def (8) New Orleans in 4 games.
(5) Houston def (4) Denver in 6 games.
(3) Dallas def (6) Utah in 7 games.
(2) San Antonio def (7) LA Lakers in 4 games.
Second Round (based on seedings above):
(1) Chicago def (4) Cleveland in 6 games.
(2) Detroit def (3) Boston in 6 games.
(1) Phoenix def (5) Houston in 6 games.
(2) San Antonio def (3) Dallas in 7 games.
Conference Championships (based on seedings above):
(1) Chicago def (2) Detroit in 7 games.
(2) San Antonio def (1) Phoenix in 7 games.
NBA Finals (based on seedings above):
(2) San Antonio def (1) Chicago in 6 games for their first back-to-back Championship and their 5th championship overall in the last 10 years.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Oct 24, 2007 15:20:43 GMT -5
I am just not sold on Chicago, I know they have the talent, but they need to put it all together and make a move towards greatness or deal for Kobe. I would say Detroit is #1 in the East, but #2 is seriously up for grabs.
Also the Heat/Wolves just made a huge X-Celtics swap
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Post by Chicago on Oct 24, 2007 15:25:03 GMT -5
I am just not sold on Chicago, I know they have the talent, but they need to put it all together and make a move towards greatness or deal for Kobe. I would say Detroit is #1 in the East, but #2 is seriously up for grabs. Also the Heat/Wolves just made a huge X-Celtics swap Yeah, I feel the exact same way. I'm not sold on Chicago, but if they were to make the #1 seed, I could see them having an easier road to the Conf. Championships than Detroit, San Antonio or Phoenix for that matter. Detroit or Cleveland could easily be substituted in the NBA Finals as far as I'm concerned. And, I heard about the trade a little while ago. Miami got the better of the deal and should improve their chances with Davis putting up points while Wade is out. |
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Post by Chicago on Oct 25, 2007 23:25:23 GMT -5
4 DAYS PEOPLE
Looking forward to the opening night, dynamic Duncan vs. Oden matchu...oh wait.
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Post by vsstock11 on Oct 27, 2007 13:33:59 GMT -5
I'd say its a toss up in the east between chicago/boston for the finals. I like chicago a lot, but i just dont know that they will get the scoring consistently throughout the games, or series for that matter. The celtics have 3 guys they can go to down the stretch(with pierce being the beast that he is, especially in close games). Obviously it will come down to the seeding as detroit may not have to face either of those teams if they get the #1 seed and chicago/boston follow in the 2/3 seeds. Either way i dont have much faith in the pistons. They seem like a team who should be the hands down favorite because of their good d and efficient offens but they just never seem to get it done when it counts other than the one year they beat the bickering, unmotivated lakers in the finals. I also wouldnt be surprised if the cavs barely made the playoffs or possibly miss the playoffs altogether. they are still a one man team that didn't do much this offseason. I think as long as j-kidd is playing the nets will be in the playoffs and toronto will continue to improve. I'll take the celtics in the east.
In the west my beloved spurs will probably take the 2 seed as phoenix will have another great reg. season and take the 1 seed. Dallas will fall to the 3 seed and i expect houston, utah and denver to be very strong but still 2nd tier to the big 3. N.O. and G.S. will battle for the last spot, but i'd give the nod to golden state. We'll get the SPURS/SUNS in the conferance finals with San antonio getting by a tough dallas team the round before. I just don't think the suns can play solid enough defense to stick with the spurs and the spurs will continue to let amare go wild and contain everyone else. As far as the finals go, i like the spurs in 6 over boston. It will be the big 3 of duncan, ginobili, parker vs. KG, Pierce and Allen. I think the supporting cast and coaching will be the difference for the spurs.
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Post by Quanthor on Oct 27, 2007 13:55:23 GMT -5
Maybe I'm a little biased, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the Trail-Blazers take the 8th seed in the western conference playoffs.
Alridge has been putting around 25 points a night. Brandon Roy(rookie of the year) will be doing the same. Steve Blake is a playmaker and should help mold the young offense. Travis outlaw is fast, powerful and could put up around 15 points a night and Martell Webster has improved substantially this pre-season averaging around 18 points.
Those are FIVE strong players they have and if they were in the east they would be NO less than a Five seed, but since it's the west I think an 8th seed is about all they could get.
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Post by Chicago on Oct 27, 2007 14:00:42 GMT -5
In the west my beloved spurs will probably take the 2 seed as phoenix will have another great reg. season and take the 1 seed. Dallas will fall to the 3 seed and i expect houston, utah and denver to be very strong but still 2nd tier to the big 3. N.O. and G.S. will battle for the last spot, but i'd give the nod to golden state. We'll get the SPURS/SUNS in the conferance finals with San antonio getting by a tough dallas team the round before. I just don't think the suns can play solid enough defense to stick with the spurs and the spurs will continue to let amare go wild and contain everyone else. As far as the finals go, i like the spurs in 6 over boston. It will be the big 3 of duncan, ginobili, parker vs. KG, Pierce and Allen. I think the supporting cast and coaching will be the difference for the spurs. Our picks are pretty similar, just switch Boston with Chicago. I really think San Antonio will come out as champions, but if Phoenix does pass them, the Suns would easily be my backup choice. Even though Boston has brought another contender to the East, the West is still so much better and the depth in quality playoff seeds (1-6) far exceeds the Eastern Conference (1-3, maybe 4). |
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Post by Chicago on Oct 27, 2007 14:13:13 GMT -5
Maybe I'm a little biased, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the Trail-Blazers take the 8th seed in the western conference playoffs. Alridge has been putting around 25 points a night. Brandon Roy(rookie of the year) will be doing the same. Steve Blake is a playmaker and should help mold the young offense. Travis outlaw is fast, powerful and could put up around 15 points a night and Martell Webster has improved substantially this pre-season averaging around 18 points. Those are FIVE strong players they have and if they were in the east they would be NO less than a Five seed, but since it's the west I think an 8th seed is about all they could get. Not even an 8th seed, sorry to say. Five strong players is good for a few select regular season games, but if one or more becomes injured, what are you left with? Portlands bench doesn't look pretty and their scoring offense is suspect. The offense wasn't that good when Randolph was carrying the team in points last season, so a big drop off wouldn't surprise me now that he's in New York. Portland is a very young team and preseason stats don't mean much once the season begins, games start to matter and good teams start playing the way they should. Also, putting all of the workload on guys coming off their rookie seasons won't get them past experienced vet's on the other top teams in the West. I have Portland finishing 12th in the West this season, which to me, still is not low enough for this season's team. |
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Post by vsstock11 on Oct 27, 2007 14:27:42 GMT -5
In the west my beloved spurs will probably take the 2 seed as phoenix will have another great reg. season and take the 1 seed. Dallas will fall to the 3 seed and i expect houston, utah and denver to be very strong but still 2nd tier to the big 3. N.O. and G.S. will battle for the last spot, but i'd give the nod to golden state. We'll get the SPURS/SUNS in the conferance finals with San antonio getting by a tough dallas team the round before. I just don't think the suns can play solid enough defense to stick with the spurs and the spurs will continue to let amare go wild and contain everyone else. As far as the finals go, i like the spurs in 6 over boston. It will be the big 3 of duncan, ginobili, parker vs. KG, Pierce and Allen. I think the supporting cast and coaching will be the difference for the spurs. Our picks are pretty similar, just switch Boston with Chicago. I really think San Antonio will come out as champions, but if Phoenix does pass them, the Suns would easily be my backup choice. Even though Boston has brought another contender to the East, the West is still so much better and the depth in quality playoff seeds (1-6) far exceeds the Eastern Conference (1-3, maybe 4). I agree w/ the imbalance of depth as well. The top 3 teams in the east all have their question marks. boston- after the big 3 what do you have? how long will it take for them to mesh? Will it even matter because they have such a horrible coach? Chicago- they play great d, but will they get offensive consistency? will the lack of experience hurt them in the playoffs(they are still a young team)? they have a great young nucleus in deng/heinrich/gordon but they might still be a year or 2 away. Detroit- biggest question mark in my opinion is can they keep their focus/poise? They seem to think they can just turn it on and off which can come back to haunt them like it did in the cavs series. With rasheed wallace on that team you always have to wonder if he's a bad call away from going nuts and getting ejected/suspended, which they cant afford because he's a big part of that team. |
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Post by Quanthor on Oct 27, 2007 15:06:17 GMT -5
Maybe I'm a little biased, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the Trail-Blazers take the 8th seed in the western conference playoffs. Aldridge has been putting around 25 points a night. Brandon Roy(rookie of the year) will be doing the same. Steve Blake is a playmaker and should help mold the young offense. Travis outlaw is fast, powerful and could put up around 15 points a night and Martell Webster has improved substantially this pre-season averaging around 18 points. Those are FIVE strong players they have and if they were in the east they would be NO less than a Five seed, but since it's the west I think an 8th seed is about all they could get. Not even an 8th seed, sorry to say. . The offense wasn't that good when Randolph was carrying the team in points last season, so a big drop off wouldn't surprise me now that he's in New York. Randolph didn't fit McMillan's style of coaching, which is a big reason why he was traded. He holds the ball for way too long before shooting, eating up valuable minutes and disrupting the flow. The majority of his rebounds are his own missed shots, I think it's only a matter of time before the Knicks realize what they got themselves into especially when they meet his "hoops"family"  and he couldn't play defense to save his life. So lets break it down then to see who's definitely in the playoffs. The Big GunsSpurs Suns Mavs Jazz That's four spots Probably in, but things happen Rockets - Tracy McGrady is the catalyst, but has a history of back problems which could lead to substantial time off. Denver - Not sold on these guys. They are Dysfunctional and Iverson's getting older. That's six and leaves us with Lakers - Will Kobe stay or leave? Either way even with Ficher back there isn't enough there to support the guy who doesn't. Clippers- Back court is too old, and have a hard time staying healthy T-wolves - Terrible team, perhaps the worst in the NBA Sonics - All they have is two Rookies and we don't know what to expect from them. Hornets - This team could surprise us, but we say that every year and they always come up short. Kings - Ron Artest is a ticking time bomb, especially if they don't win and Bibby and himself couldn't carry that team it's not very deep. Warriors - Last years run was entertaining to say the least, but will Davis stay healthy, could they all work together without fighting with the other team or perhaps themselves? Grizzlies - Will improve some from last year, but not enough to get into the playoffs and Portland - Aldridge will be a force in the NBA on both sides of the cour, Roy even for a Rookie was mature and had poise, Martell much improved, Outlaw hit's the boards hard and difficult to defend while he plays solid defense. I agree their bench is questionable, but Blake and Martell can play which makes a solid six man roster, which is enough to get over for the final spot. Especially when the last two to three spots are up for grabs. |
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