Official ALL ELITE WRESTLING Thread

I'll be at Winter is Coming, Final Battle and Collision this week. Very excited

It's easy to get ... tribalism.

There absolutely is some of that, but on the other end it’s undeniable that the product isn’t as good and not hitting for some folks. TK shouldn’t be booking all these shows by himself, the attention to detailed story telling that was there when it was just dynamite is gone. In the beginning it was very apparent who they were pushing and where the storylines were going and now there really isn’t any of that. Samoa Joe just dropping the tv title after a historic reign, Kenny being relegated to not really doing much of anything this year, the complete misbooking of the womens division, the constant stop and star on tons of guys. Like it’s an issue. All the metrics point out that they are having issues, he needs to let someone else take the book. Or at the very least give away some responsibilities. Their ticket sales this year were down 40%. That a problem. It just is, I want them around, I go to the shows, I buy merch, I watch as many shows as I can, but it’s at best a very unfocused product right now. Their ppv tickets used to literally disappear, now the shows don’t sell out. I’ll never stop pointing out what I like and pointing out what I don’t like.

Wake me up when 20 min matches with no build are over. Idk why everyone thinks they have to have a 15-20 min match to look strong or get over. It’s boring. No one gets over because it takes too long and they don’t finish the match when it’s logical.

I hate long matches for no reason, and so you people don’t lose it, here’s something I hate about WWE. Entrance, commercial, entrance match start, commercial, end of match. Is there no fine line anymore? Can no one have a competitive 7-10 match anymore and televise it? Or is it all ad space filler?

What do you mean, "you people"?

The ones with pitchforks every time theres a criticism. At least the women’s matches don’t make me start looking at my phone because they go too long. I just hear commentators in the background going on and on trying to over explain things and make these arbitrary matches mean something.

I can agree with the 15-20 minutes for something with an obvious outcome because it’s an overbooked squash match. You can get someone over in 5 minutes way easier than 20 and you still have time for other stuff and don’t have to rush. Kenny coming out and having a 15 minute match with like Kip Sabian or someone is completely unnecessary and has always been one of my little things that they should’ve stopped a long time ago

I agree with down sales can lead to a smaller marketed business, but most of the negativity you find online about AEW is not smart like yours. It's bashing TK, bashing former E wrestlers, bashing flippy flops, etc. That's the tribalism I speak of. It's obvious AEW isn't for everyone. Hell it isn't for the majority of wrestling fans. And that's fine. They are fine with that. They don't want to be the E. They want to be themselves. If that means living in a smaller space one day, so be it.

I love AEW but will say their best stuff is when a good story is involved. Hangman/Mox, Mox/Orange, and Hangman/Swerve were my top matches/feuds in the company this year because I was invested in the story.

The only real interest I have in a wrestler just wrestling random matches is Danielson because even then, the story is man just wants to fight everyone because he’s got a pain kink.