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Post by havoc7179 on Jan 29, 2019 17:46:49 GMT -5
Probably gave him what they feel is their final offer and he said no so they just said " ![](http://www.wrestlingfigs.com/images/wfcensored.gif) it we'll let him walk." Yeah, he supposedly told them he wasn't re-signing under any circumstances. It's still a surprise they would confirm it before his contract runs out, unless they're planning on making a storyline out of it like Punk in 2011. actually, this was a good move I WWE. It instantly discredits all other reports about a Superstars asking their release because now there are reporting about people leaving the company. All the other reports about Maria and Mike, and the good brothers, and dash and Dawson look to be discredited (whether true or not) bc WWE is responding to the runors now.
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Post by tarver89 on Jan 29, 2019 17:47:59 GMT -5
I'm not talking about injuries and years off, i'm talking about his effort in and out the ring. Sure, i have no problem saying that the bigger part of the involution of 90% of the wrestlers is on creative hands, but let's face it: when was the last time this guy was super hot with the audience? I think around 2014 during the feud with Rollins. After that a long way down, with the little WWE championship reign period, and he didn't have one single moment to remember during that reign.Even Stone Cold buried him during his podcast telling directly to his face that he has no work ethic and stuff like that. Neither did Jinder. Lets stop blaming Dean for WWE's booking issues. They're not even comparable. Mahal is a crapty lowcard wrestler that got the be champion and it's a miracle that they gave the title to him, Ambrose initially was part of that group of guys that the WWE would have relied on for 10 years as top star.
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 29, 2019 17:48:34 GMT -5
I'm no Roman hater but if they had put Ambrose in his spot he would've been perfect. Think about it The Authority vs the lunatic fringe would've been huge and the crowd could've had someone who they wanted to cheer for.
Looking back at his title win the WWE let him down badly. The Raw after Ambrose drew high ratings and it looked like he was going to have an awesome reign. Then they dump him on the B show and put him in a program with Ziggler of all people so even his title reign was doomed from the start.
In 2014 he was the highlight of the company and that could've continued if the bookers hadn't screwed him.
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Post by IRS on Jan 29, 2019 17:48:51 GMT -5
What a wild year. One member of The Shield, who had been the iron man of the company until last year, is leaving and may be retiring. Another had his cancer come back out of nowhere, after being forced as the new face of the company, and may never return. And Seth may finally be fully given the keys to the kingdom, after defeating Lesnar in (potentially) his last match at WM.
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Post by tarver89 on Jan 29, 2019 17:49:37 GMT -5
I don't know if they would even book him into a main card match a Wrestlemania. He will probably say his goodbyes on the RAW after EC, if they're nice enough to let him have a goodbye speech. More probably they would book him every week in a segment like last night where he would try to talk about this situation and somebody would come out and make him look like a total clown.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 29, 2019 17:51:10 GMT -5
I'm no Roman hater but if they had put Ambrose in his spot he would've been perfect. Think about it The Authority vs the lunatic fringe would've been huge and the crowd could've had someone who they wanted to cheer for. Looking back at his title win the WWE let him down badly. The Raw after Ambrose drew high ratings and it looked like he was going to have an awesome reign. Then they dump him on the B show and put him in a program with Ziggler of all people so even his title reign was doomed from the start. The way he was booked the night after the title was so perfect and then it led to nothing special. Ambrose was at his best and most popular when he was fighting against the machine, and they never took advantage of that.
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Post by IRS on Jan 29, 2019 17:53:17 GMT -5
Yeah, he supposedly told them he wasn't re-signing under any circumstances. It's still a surprise they would confirm it before his contract runs out, unless they're planning on making a storyline out of it like Punk in 2011. actually, this was a good move I WWE. It instantly discredits all other reports about a Superstars asking their release because now there are reporting about people leaving the company. All the other reports about Maria and Mike, and the good brothers, and dash and Dawson look to be discredited (whether true or not) bc WWE is responding to the runors now. Not really. An expiring contract is different than requesting a release. WWE doesn't have to grant the release, but you can't do crap if the person with the expiring deal doesn't want to re-sign, so there's much less reason for them not to acknowledge it (like Punk in 2011 and Dolph in 2016).
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Post by iamkrang on Jan 29, 2019 17:54:37 GMT -5
I won't miss the rebound clothesline.
If he continues wrestling it looks like AEW is making a splash signing.
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Post by IRS on Jan 29, 2019 17:56:38 GMT -5
I'm no Roman hater but if they had put Ambrose in his spot he would've been perfect. Think about it The Authority vs the lunatic fringe would've been huge and the crowd could've had someone who they wanted to cheer for. Looking back at his title win the WWE let him down badly. The Raw after Ambrose drew high ratings and it looked like he was going to have an awesome reign. Then they dump him on the B show and put him in a program with Ziggler of all people so even his title reign was doomed from the start. The way he was booked the night after the title was so perfect and then it led to nothing special. Ambrose was at his best and most popular when he was fighting against the machine, and they never took advantage of that. Even before that, when he was pushed into Roman's spot prior to WM32 and faced HHH at Roadblock. Fantastic match and Ambrose felt like a natural in that spot. The crowds were fully into him during it, too. But nah, let's put him on the preshow against Corbin instead.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jan 29, 2019 17:58:27 GMT -5
The way he was booked the night after the title was so perfect and then it led to nothing special. Ambrose was at his best and most popular when he was fighting against the machine, and they never took advantage of that. Even before that, when he was pushed into Roman's spot prior to WM32 and faced HHH at Roadblock. Fantastic match and Ambrose felt like a natural in that spot. The crowds were fully into him during it, too. But nah, let's put him on the preshow against Corbin instead. Yeah. Every time they had a chance to pull the trigger on him, they did something that just made no sense and sabotaged him in the long run. It was constantly one step forward, two steps back.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jan 29, 2019 18:02:04 GMT -5
One less exceptionally boring member of the roster. As a human being, I wish him well; as a wrestler, I bid him good riddance.
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Post by LA Times on Jan 29, 2019 18:02:41 GMT -5
"WHAT IS JON MOXLEY DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE?!"
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Post by rkmo: No Greater Threat on Jan 29, 2019 18:10:06 GMT -5
The way he was booked the night after the title was so perfect and then it led to nothing special. Ambrose was at his best and most popular when he was fighting against the machine, and they never took advantage of that. Even before that, when he was pushed into Roman's spot prior to WM32 and faced HHH at Roadblock. Fantastic match and Ambrose felt like a natural in that spot. The crowds were fully into him during it, too. But nah, let's put him on the preshow against Corbin instead. You might be getting years mixed up. He faced Lesnar at 32 after being the bridge for the Trips-Reigns match. It was 33 where he defended the IC Title against Corbin on the preshow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 18:15:13 GMT -5
Something is definitely fishy, with how much it’s on all of their social media outlets. WWE have never made statements prior to talent leaving.
I could easily see this being a worked shoot.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jan 29, 2019 18:22:07 GMT -5
In his first few years I was a fan of his, but overtime he has been pretty boring and stale as a wrestler. He only had great feuds with Rollins. I hope he goes to AEW and restarts his character.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Jan 29, 2019 18:24:24 GMT -5
If he is indeed done completely with wrestling, I wish him nothing but the best. He seems happily married and maybe they are wanting to start a family or something. Which makes me wonder if Renee will not resign after her contract runs out.
On another hand, if he does want to continue to wrestle, I'd be interested to see what he can do with AEW if both sides could reach an agreement
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Post by IRS on Jan 29, 2019 18:29:59 GMT -5
Even before that, when he was pushed into Roman's spot prior to WM32 and faced HHH at Roadblock. Fantastic match and Ambrose felt like a natural in that spot. The crowds were fully into him during it, too. But nah, let's put him on the preshow against Corbin instead. You might be getting years mixed up. He faced Lesnar at 32 after being the bridge for the Trips-Reigns match. It was 33 where he defended the IC Title against Corbin on the preshow. Ah. Well, my dementia is showing.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 29, 2019 18:40:07 GMT -5
I’ve heard mixed reviews but don’t blame him if true that he wants more creative control. His momentum was sabatoged multiple times over the years due to crap booking.
I’ve been one of his biggest backers and truely feel that he’s one of the WWE’s overall best talents when allowed to do his thing. Instead, he’s been forced to be “wacky” for most of his career because Vince simply doesn’t understand his character.
If he’s done with wrestling I thank him for his years of great work. If he’s not done, I look forward to see him in whatever company he signs with. I could easily see this as a new “Christian Cage” moment where he leaves to go elsewhere and prove that he’s a top guy.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jan 29, 2019 18:44:34 GMT -5
You might be getting years mixed up. He faced Lesnar at 32 after being the bridge for the Trips-Reigns match. It was 33 where he defended the IC Title against Corbin on the preshow. Ah. Well, my dementia is showing. ![](https://i.gifer.com/5XfP.gif)
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Jan 29, 2019 18:48:03 GMT -5
I'm no Roman hater but if they had put Ambrose in his spot he would've been perfect. Think about it The Authority vs the lunatic fringe would've been huge and the crowd could've had someone who they wanted to cheer for. Looking back at his title win the WWE let him down badly. The Raw after Ambrose drew high ratings and it looked like he was going to have an awesome reign. Then they dump him on the B show and put him in a program with Ziggler of all people so even his title reign was doomed from the start. The way he was booked the night after the title was so perfect and then it led to nothing special. Ambrose was at his best and most popular when he was fighting against the machine, and they never took advantage of that. His brief title run on Raw was simply magical but once he was drafted to Smackdown he really felt out of place. He was put in a random feud with Ziggler, then in a comedy feud with AJ that involved Ellsworth, then Cena tore him apart in a segment and after that he was downgraded to the IC title. I would also say that revealing on screen that he and Renee are married didn't do his character any favours either. Ambrose is simply a casualty due to mediocre booking.
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