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Post by Chip on Jan 29, 2019 19:01:05 GMT -5
hmmmm....something is weird about all this. when has the WWE EVER in history "wished future endeavors" publicly on someone 3 months before their contract is up?
also Dean was about to cut that promo on RAW, sounded like a "shoot" but then he was cut off. i dunno.
i mean, maybe they just aren't going to have him on TV anymore and this covers that. then when his contract is up he will get the official release statement. but i dunno. this whole thing seems really odd
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Post by johnnyaustin21 on Jan 29, 2019 19:16:32 GMT -5
Does seem a bit odd but could see it being true.He's one of their top ten main talents on the roster right now but with how he's been booked the last few years and the fact that WWE has more talent then ever could see WWE actually announcing he's gone and just paying him the last few months to chill at home.Don't really see this being a work because again have done next to nothing with him the last two years and clearly talent like Rollins,Brock,Strowman,Styles,Bryan,Charlotte,Becky,Ronda..ect are all booked a head of him on the card and in terms of the Wrestlemania season don't see him fitting into a program that really worth while.
Again odd for the WWE to come out and say he's leaving but I think this is just them getting a jump on wishing him the best in his future because they won't be using him for the next few months as his contract runs out.
AEW has to be in play for him,and would be a bigger get for them then Jericho & Omega with him again being one of the top ten talents working full time in the WWE since his debut in 2012 and a forum WWE Champion who's only 33.Having a main event picture with Ambrose,Jericho,Omega,Rhodes,Neville,Page...ect is a pretty solid group and outstanding start for a brand new company trying to make and impact.
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Post by marino13 on Jan 29, 2019 19:19:00 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm alone on this, but I honestly feel things were going great till the Austin podcast. And IMO Austin did Dean absolutely no favors that night. From that moment on, Dean seemed to be on the back burner as far as management goes. And in turn, he seemed less interested.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 29, 2019 19:23:39 GMT -5
Eh honestly i was never a big fan. He was a decent worker but never had "the look". He literally looked like a flea market wrestler they signed as enhancement talent. and I bet you think Jinder got ripped naturally too. Looks don't matter anymore. So your argument against "looks dont matter" is to bring up a guy who literally went from a runt as Heath Slater's sidekick to a jacked up beast & WWE Champion? Thank you for proving my point.
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Post by The King Of Crisps on Jan 29, 2019 19:28:18 GMT -5
hmmmm....something is weird about all this. when has the WWE EVER in history "wished future endeavors" publicly on someone 3 months before their contract is up? also Dean was about to cut that promo on RAW, sounded like a "shoot" but then he was cut off. i dunno. just saw they posted it on Instagram, and these were my thoughts exactly. Watching Raw I was just like "why did they cut Dean off to start this womens tag match?" this all seems like a work.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Jan 29, 2019 19:29:32 GMT -5
I don't know, this now leads me into believing that it's an intricate work, NOT them trying to get out in front of this because it becomes a story. They have NEVER done this before. I have a feeling it will be him lording this over them for the next few months and threatening to take a belt with him like they did in 2011 with Punk. Or they will possibly have him out until after Wrestlemania, where Seth gets the strap and the night after Mania, he's still standing at the end of the show after something, and BOOM here comes Dean to take him out and re-ignite their feud. Work the fans, work the internet, and work AEW Dave.
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Post by blissfan4life on Jan 29, 2019 19:33:05 GMT -5
One less exceptionally boring member of the roster. As a human being, I wish him well; as a wrestler, I bid him good riddance. the theory of Ambrose being boring is off, especially since he was over as hell a long time before the turn.
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Post by Quazimoto on Jan 29, 2019 19:34:48 GMT -5
WWE actually has had a somewhat similar instance a couple of times previously.
It wad announced on WWE tv (on Raw by Vince I think), that they had been unable to come to an agreement on a new contract for Randy Savage. Savage was never on WWE tv again and appeared in WCW a month later.
Also, prior to his leaving, it was announced on WWE AOL feed that Kevin Nash would be leaving the company when his contract expired. Nash went on to have a high profile match with The Undertaker at WrestleMania and a title feud against HBK before leaving.
So it has sort of happened before that they'd say a guy is leaving in advance.
I'll be a bit sad to see Ambrose gone, but he hasn't really been the same for a while now and it's shown in the ring. Hopefully, if he goes somewhere else, he can find that passion again. WWE isnt right for everyone. On the other hand, if it's a work, I'll be interested to see where they go with it.
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Post by IRS on Jan 29, 2019 19:36:47 GMT -5
Renee posted a picture of Ambrose on Instagram with the caption "the world is yours, my love. No guts, no glory."
Sounds more like he plans to keep wrestling elsewhere than a retirement, honestly.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 29, 2019 19:39:25 GMT -5
I can say it because he's ing awful. Nah, his booking's awful. This. His momentum was squandered multiple times over the years in favor of others. 1) He was the most over babyface in the company by a long mile following the Shield split. Rather than capitalize on this, they took him off TV for a month to film a straight to DVD movie. He was also booked to loose every PPV match that year to Seth and Bray, killing most of his momentum. 2) After doing nothing from January-April of 2015 while his “Shield brothers” main evented WM31, reports surfaced that some of the other workers spoke up to use Dean better. He then finds himself in a two month feud with Seth where he “won” the title after a dusty finish and then put on a 45 minute classic at MITB 2015. Rather than continue this push, Dean quickly found himself as a “sidekick” in the Roman/Bray feud. This went on for much of the summer and fall before putting over Roman clean for the vacant title at Survivor Series. 3) Dean began a feud with KO in December of 2015 over the IC Title and put on classics for the next two months. Dean was red hot and got one of the loudest reactions in years when he made it to the final two of the Rumble w/ HHH, yet the trigger was not pulled during the next three months despite literally carrying two of the top feuds in the company going into WM. We got the infamous Brock match (which Dean has stated multiple times that he tried pitching ideas to Brock, HHH, and Vince but to no avail), and then went into a lackluster feud with Jericho over a plant. 4) Despite the poor booking, the house shows main evented by Dean were drawing just as much, if not more than the ones headlined by Roman. Roman failed a drug test and Dean finally gets a shot with the top title. For a month he was booked on par with Roman and Seth, and even won the triple threat between them, but soon took a backseat to AJ and Cena on SDL despite putting on some great matches with AJ. 5) Dean found himself quickly pushed to the midcarder in early 2017. He won the IC Title from Miz, but failed to make the main card of WM33 despite holding it. He moved to Raw, dropped the IC Title back to Miz, and soon found himself jobbing to Miz and Elias on Raw for a while. He bounced back with a reunion with Seth that culminated in a great tag team match with Angle towards the end of the year. 6) Dean got hurt and missed much of 2018. There was much anticipation for his return, and after nearly 10 months away where he almost died in the hospital, Dean came back looking better than ever. With a new haircut and jacked physique, fans were pumped to see him. Instead, he was booked to loose clean to Drew on Raw a few weeks after his return and the WWE even ran a “is Dean the weak link of the Shield” angle for a bit. He did nothing else of note until Romans’s announcement in October. 7) Deans much anticipated heel turn happens and instead of getting “John Moxley,” we get a generic “your town stinks heel” that kills any instrest anyone had in him. I don’t blame him for being frustrated if true.
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Post by BSR on Jan 29, 2019 19:45:13 GMT -5
hmmmm....something is weird about all this. when has the WWE EVER in history "wished future endeavors" publicly on someone 3 months before their contract is up? also Dean was about to cut that promo on RAW, sounded like a "shoot" but then he was cut off. i dunno. i mean, maybe they just aren't going to have him on TV anymore and this covers that. then when his contract is up he will get the official release statement. but i dunno. this whole thing seems really odd They could be trying to get the punk thing to happen again with Ambrose. You might be on to something chipper
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 29, 2019 20:13:20 GMT -5
If he said leave, I hope it won't affect Renee Young. I love her commentary Really? Yeah, she adds a lot to commentary, at least for me. She seems to be the most relatable to fans and stands up for the faces in many ways that Michael Cole doesn't. She seems genuine and brings up new things instead of Cole reminding us a billion times of the same stuff.
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Post by tg11 on Jan 29, 2019 20:29:40 GMT -5
Can't blame Ambrose especially if he ends up in AEW or he ends up in New Japan...nothing would surprise me at this point given how much WWE has screwed him
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Post by Iron Bison on Jan 29, 2019 22:18:58 GMT -5
Bro, it's a suh-werve...
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 29, 2019 22:23:14 GMT -5
Hm, have WWE ever announced someone not renewing their contract months before it does?
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jan 29, 2019 22:24:18 GMT -5
I like how they’re saying “WWE confirmed it” yet WWE posted nothing about it on any form of social media or their website lol so exactly where is this confirmation coming from?
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 29, 2019 22:26:12 GMT -5
I like how they’re saying “WWE confirned it” yet WWE posted nothing about it on any form of social media or their website lol so exactly where is this confirmation coming from? WWE did release a statement on their website. I just find the situation weird cause I cant remember when WWE had ever announced contracts expiring months before it does. Just the wording of their statement makes it sound more storyline
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 29, 2019 22:28:52 GMT -5
WWE actually has had a somewhat similar instance a couple of times previously. It wad announced on WWE tv (on Raw by Vince I think), that they had been unable to come to an agreement on a new contract for Randy Savage. Savage was never on WWE tv again and appeared in WCW a month later. Also, prior to his leaving, it was announced on WWE AOL feed that Kevin Nash would be leaving the company when his contract expired. Nash went on to have a high profile match with The Undertaker at WrestleMania and a title feud against HBK before leaving. So it has sort of happened before that they'd say a guy is leaving in advance. I'll be a bit sad to see Ambrose gone, but he hasn't really been the same for a while now and it's shown in the ring. Hopefully, if he goes somewhere else, he can find that passion again. WWE isnt right for everyone. On the other hand, if it's a work, I'll be interested to see where they go with it. But they announced it after Savage left. Savage wasn't under contract when that announcement was made. Ambrose is still under contract til April.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jan 29, 2019 22:31:35 GMT -5
I like how they’re saying “WWE confirned it” yet WWE posted nothing about it on any form of social media or their website lol so exactly where is this confirmation coming from? WWE did release a statement on their website. I just find the situation weird cause I cant remember when WWE had ever announced contracts expiring months before it does. Just the wording of their statement makes it sound more storyline Didn’t catch that, but yeah it feels like it’s all storyline. It’s gonna be Ambrose vs The Authority since Roman isn’t there to do it anymore. He’s always going on about being held back so I feel that he’s about to shift the blame to Triple H and The McMahons. Maybe he’ll threaten to leave the company like CM Punk did
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Post by RuthlessFigs on Jan 29, 2019 22:55:13 GMT -5
WWE probably couldn't get Batista for Mania so they're going with Dean vs Trips. I'm assuming Triple H will be fully recovered by then.
Here are some factors that could play into the storyline. - The parts about "Stabbing your brothers in the back", they'll use the fact that Triple H orchestrated the original Shield breakup and that the turmoil within the group all started with him. - Ambrose being seen as the "3rd Member of the Shield" - Not being seen as a top guy, Vince backs Roman, Trips backs Seth but no one backs Dean. - Ambrose being anti-corporate - Ambrose threatening to ruin WWE programming then leave - A Pipe bomb 2.0
Personally, i'd have Dean crash and takeover NXT (pun intended) I think his current character would work well down there + he'd get a bit more freedom with it. It'd also show that guys can go from the main roster down to NXT and still be successful, if not more.
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