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Post by Kody on Jul 11, 2008 21:43:53 GMT -5
Farve asked the Packers for them to release him today. But the Packers haven't responded yet but personally there is always one story that takes up the entire NFL offseason, and I can't get any info on my damn team. Peyton Manning sucks. Theres your info lol burnz.
In all seriousness...I think Farve is kinda being a dick with this whole thing. This is like the third time's he's said he'll retire...then doesn't. If I was Green Bay, I'd be sick of it too. I think he needs to just stop, and retire now that he said he was going to. I've never really been a fan of him; But, tbh, as a Vikings fans, I would like to see him on the team, as long as he played just as good as he did last season.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 11, 2008 21:51:18 GMT -5
This is probably a dumb question, but even though Favre has requested his release from the Packers, what if they just didn't grant him it? Would the next step be getting Goodell and the NFLPA involved?
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Post by T R W on Jul 11, 2008 21:53:37 GMT -5
Well, if he un-retires, and they don't release him, then he has to be on their roster.They could theoretically keep him on the roster, and not play him, if they wanted.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 11, 2008 21:54:55 GMT -5
The Packers do not have to do anything with Favre, he's ed. He is under contract and filed for retirement, he has no leverage.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jul 11, 2008 21:55:20 GMT -5
This is probably a dumb question, but even though Favre has requested his release from the Packers, what if they just didn't grant him it? Would the next step be getting Goodell and the NFLPA involved? Then Brett would either have to be traded or Re-activated from the Retired/Reserved list but if the Packers don't do any of those two then Rodger Goodell and The NFLPA gets involved.
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Post by Lennon on Jul 11, 2008 21:55:44 GMT -5
Honestly, I have tons faith in Rodgers. I really think he'll be a damn good Quarterback.
They were ONE game away from the Super Bowl last season. I think this team will be fine.
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Post by ajstyles888 on Jul 11, 2008 21:56:06 GMT -5
Peyton Manning sucks. Theres your info Well he's better than Brady. ;D - Iron Heart
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jul 11, 2008 21:57:37 GMT -5
The Packers do not have to do anything with Favre, he's ed. He is under contract and filed for retirement, he has no leverage. He has NOT filled out and mailed his Retirement papers in so the Packers do have to do something with him.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 11, 2008 21:59:11 GMT -5
The Packers do not have to do anything with Favre, he's ed. He is under contract and filed for retirement, he has no leverage. He has all the leverage because of the tons of other Packers fans like Batista who would absolutely hate the Packers for outright releasing Favre or trading him for a 3rd-round pick. Even though I agree with doing either option, it would potentially be a PR nightmare for the Packers.
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Post by Kliquid on Jul 11, 2008 23:14:56 GMT -5
The Packers do not have to do anything with Favre, he's ed. He is under contract and filed for retirement, he has no leverage. Normally, you'd be right... But this is Brett Favre. He pretty much gets to say and do whatever the hell he wants.
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Post by Flair rocks on Jul 12, 2008 9:50:49 GMT -5
The packers have the cap space to keep him if they want. I really think favre is being a big ol' bitch. I'm a packer fan, but Favre needs to stay retired
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Post by doogle on Jul 12, 2008 10:06:34 GMT -5
I think both sides are at fault here...with how shitty the Packers are handling it to how ing bunghole of a move Favre made...I mean hell he's my favorite player of all time...I love him more than any other football player....but him for ing around with us for 4 years...then retiring after a great season...only to want to come back in JULY....jesus ing christ...right away he's split the fans, the team and aaron rodgers's head...nothing good can come of this situation.
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Post by Flyrfn144 on Jul 12, 2008 16:00:31 GMT -5
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- The Green Bay Packers' general manager and coach don't plan to grant Brett Favre's request for his release. If he does rejoin the team, they told The Associated Press reported, it won't be as the starting quarterback. sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3484473Link to entire story.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 12, 2008 18:28:40 GMT -5
I think the situation is being handled poorly by both sides. I understand the Packers know its time to move on without Favre and you cant blame them. Farve has been holding the retirement thing over their head for quite sometime. Several years ago, they drafted Rodgers to replace Farve, for what they expected would be a year or 2.
Farve on the other hand deserves better. He has done too much for Green Bay. He has made Green Bay a winner again and he is a legend that is so respected and honored around the country.
Its not the best business decision for the Pack to just release Farve. There are too many teams that would give up some serious players/draft picks that could help Green Bay. On the other hand, its unfair of them to trade him off to oblivion. Farve aint playing just to play. He wants to win.
So what I propose is that GB and Farve work together. GB needs to put feelers out to teams and so what they can get for him. At the same time, do not accept offers from Minnesota or Chicago or Detroit. But also dont accept offers from Oakland, Miami, or Atlanta. Instead look for teams who are kind of at that middle of the road level. A team that needs a QB, but also has talent to win. Perhaps, Washington, Tampa, or Carolina.
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Post by immortal on Jul 12, 2008 22:24:13 GMT -5
Or...Brett could have just not retired in the first place.
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Post by Byron F'N Saxton Fan on Jul 12, 2008 23:08:56 GMT -5
Or...Brett could have just not retired in the first place. People complain because he takes two or three months to decide and now people compain because he made it to early.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jul 12, 2008 23:26:23 GMT -5
Or...Brett could have just not retired in the first place. People complain because he takes two or three months to decide and now people compain because he made it to early. Well yeah, because he keeps flip flopping. Its like Roger Clemens, either do it or don't for Christ's sake. It holds teams hostage with their moves and decisions, its just stupid
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 13, 2008 11:49:52 GMT -5
Or...Brett could have just not retired in the first place. He does say that he was pressured by GB to make a decision quickly. I dont 100% buy. But come on....its Brett Farve. I think he has earned the right to make a mistake. This is an amicable way of getting this done. Fact is.....GB is creating a PR nightmare right now for their franchise and Aaron Rodgers will be under MORE pressure than Brian Griese ever was after Elway retired.
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Post by K Dot on Jul 13, 2008 13:16:51 GMT -5
Ugh, I know it's hard but I just think if you retire, then you're retired. At least come back to mentor Rodgers or something. But once you hang up the cleats, you shouldn't think about playing again.
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Post by K.J.V. on Jul 14, 2008 16:32:40 GMT -5
This is an absolute nightmare on both sides. As a lifelong Packer fan, even I'm not sure what to do. On one hand, you have fresh blood who could be better for the team and mesh with the younger players in Aaron Rodgers, but he hasn't proved anything. Yeah he did well in Dallas, but that's because the defensive scheme was directed towards Brett Favre. Rodgers is a completely different style. You see that happen all the time in the NFL, it doesn't mean shit. Give defenses time to plan for Aaron, then see what happens.
As anyone knows, Rodgers is also injury prone, so imagine the PR nightmare if they happened to trade Favre away and Rodgers suffers a injury again like a broken foot and is out 12 weeks. Brohm comes in, struggles badly, and the Packers go 5-11.
Yes Brett Favre made a hasty decision, but people keep saying Favre has hung the retirement over the Packers for years. I call bullcrapon that. The media were always the ones saying, "Favre should retire" and "he shouldn't come back."
If anyone knows anything about winning in football, it's that you want to do it now. Are people forgetting that the Packers were one game away from the Superbowl? I hate to say it, but their best chance of getting back is with Brett Favre, not Aaron Rodgers.
I have no idea what to do, but I imagine the fan backlash will be pretty heavy if Favre doesn't play or is traded away. Sure they decided to move on, but Favre is a legend in his own right, and Rodgers hasn't proved shit. Poor communication on both sides imo.
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