@Chair.Shot
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Post by @Chair.Shot on Jun 9, 2023 11:46:29 GMT -5
I can’t post links but there is a guy on IG who collects prototypes and factory samples. He posted a picture of Vader just a bit ago and it is looking good! I think I might like it even better than what was shown at Axxess.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 9, 2023 20:48:47 GMT -5
so are mattel just never making the hasbro/retro rings again? considering the time frame of the nwo figures and some of the other recent figures, a wcw or wwe attitude/new gen ring could be cool... Steve answered this in the Q&A at least once -- it was a "we'll see" answer. The response to recent waves hasn't been that great -- I am guessing Wave 3 didn't sell that well, so I doubt it UNLESS it's an RSC exclusive. But that seems like a big risk for them.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case, actually... that set seemed to cater just (or mainly) to the hardcore Hasbro collectors, rather than Retro/WWE collectors as a whole. Thankfully they seem to be back on track with Series 4...👍
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Post by sbayunco on Jun 9, 2023 20:55:07 GMT -5
I can’t post links but there is a guy on IG who collects prototypes and factory samples. He posted a picture of Vader just a bit ago and it is looking good! I think I might like it even better than what was shown at Axxess. Can you dm the link?
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Post by brad on Jun 10, 2023 7:05:04 GMT -5
Retros are such a strange beast. Wave 3 was IMO a homerun (aside from Lex) - I mean, we got a cool Doink, TUGBOAT and R&B Valentine with new tooling.
Wave 1 was fine by me. I was happy to get a Mr. T which I feel NAILED his likeness better than 99% of all other retros. Mean Gene was fantastic.
And then Wave 2... I'm still frustrated we got a Hart Foundation from 1988 instead of 90/91. Like, WTF.
I'm glad the nWo set seems universally approved, and I think Wave 4 looks fantastic. Perhaps they will lean into the 96-98 era more. I suppose that's when the product began gaining steam with the masses as opposed to 93/94...whatever the case may be, I hope the train can keep rolling.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jun 25, 2023 13:25:24 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is:
- Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain Lou
Pretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc…
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Post by mrh on Jun 25, 2023 16:07:22 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is: - Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain Lou Pretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc…
I really hope this doesn't happen. We already got a set themed like that with Piper, Mr. T. Orton, and Mean Gene.
I'd be interested in Albano only, but wouldn't buy the set. Personally, I hope series 4 (Lawler, Vader) is a huge hit, and this one flops, so Mattel and Action Figure Attack can see what eras collectors really want.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jun 25, 2023 16:14:47 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is: - Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain Lou Pretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc…
I really hope this doesn't happen. We already got a set themed like that with Piper, Mr. T. Orton, and Mean Gene.
I'd be interested in Albano only, but wouldn't buy the set. Personally, I hope series 4 (Lawler, Vader) is a huge hit, and this one flops, so Mattel and Action Figure Attack can see what eras collectors really want. But you’re only speaking from your own frame of reference - there are other collectors, myself included, who would like a set like this.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 25, 2023 16:22:39 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is: - Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain LouPretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc… I really hope this doesn't happen. We already got a set themed like that with Piper, Mr. T. Orton, and Mean Gene. I'd be interested in Albano only, but wouldn't buy the set. Personally, I hope series 4 (Lawler, Vader) is a huge hit, and this one flops, so Mattel and Action Figure Attack can see what eras collectors really want.I'd love that set 🤷♂️.
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Post by RedDevil on Jun 25, 2023 16:31:17 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is: - Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain Lou Pretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc… I was expecting the next set to be a lose WM1-themed set anyway to complement the first bundle, and now Ali is on the roster then you could be very much onto something. Getting a referee into the line also ticks another missing Hasbro box. They'd need to invest in another new body though, which they might not do since they are already doing that with Wendi? My other thought was that they might want to include another female so they don't go all Southpaw Regional Wrestling with Wendi, but I think it's likelier they'll reuse that figure with Sherri or Alundra Blayze in the next bundle instead. Had Moolah been an option then maybe they'd have gone with her as a natural match-up with Wendi, but I don't think there's really anyone else from her era? I naturally want all the bundles to be a great success, but I agree though that I hope we see another New Gen set soon after this upcoming set.
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Post by mrh on Jun 25, 2023 22:17:30 GMT -5
Great -- if we people want a Wrestlemania 1 set, then the numbers will prove I'm wrong. I hope they prove I'm right. I guess we'll see.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 25, 2023 23:56:13 GMT -5
Great -- if we people want a Wrestlemania 1 set, then the numbers will prove I'm wrong. I hope they prove I'm right. I guess we'll see. I think people are collecting these for different reasons though... I mean, if all the sets were like that orange-carded/Series 3 one, I'd probably stop collecting them (...I have little to no interest in "missing" or "prototype" Hasbros). The Series 1 set appeared to do very well though - and that was Wrestlemania I themed, so the market is definitely there. Heck, if anything, the New Gen/Series 3 set hasn't seemed as popular...
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Post by mrh on Jun 26, 2023 0:01:53 GMT -5
Great -- if we people want a Wrestlemania 1 set, then the numbers will prove I'm wrong. I hope they prove I'm right. I guess we'll see. I think people are collecting these for different reasons though... I mean, if all the sets were like that orange-carded/Series 3 one, I'd probably stop collecting them (...I have little to no interest in "missing" or "prototype" Hasbros). The Series 1 set appeared to do very well though - and that was Wrestlemania I themed, so the market is definitely there. Heck, if anything, the New Gen/Series 3 set hasn't seemed as popular...
Fair -- set one did have Mean Gene, and was the first time they were back. Maybe it would still do as well now, esp. for Mean Gene, but I don't know.
Series 3 figures were probably the worst executed line so far. I didn't buy that set -- first time I didn't buy any Retros from a wave ever. Interested to see if Series 4 sells out -- I doubt it, but the figures are so much stronger, so I hope it does
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Post by zen411 on Jun 26, 2023 0:35:25 GMT -5
I would like a Zeus retro especially if he has a similar deal to Mr. T. I'm not sure if it would sell well since it's mostly figures made in one form before but a SummerSlam 89 set? Hogan, Beefcake, Zeus, Macho Man.
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Post by hulkjoegan on Jun 26, 2023 2:04:15 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is: - Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain Lou Pretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc… I was expecting the next set to be a lose WM1-themed set anyway to complement the first bundle, and now Ali is on the roster then you could be very much onto something. Getting a referee into the line also ticks another missing Hasbro box. They'd need to invest in another new body though, which they might not do since they are already doing that with Wendi? My other thought was that they might want to include another female so they don't go all Southpaw Regional Wrestling with Wendi, but I think it's likelier they'll reuse that figure with Sherri or Alundra Blayze in the next bundle instead. Had Moolah been an option then maybe they'd have gone with her as a natural match-up with Wendi, but I don't think there's really anyone else from her era? I naturally want all the bundles to be a great success, but I agree though that I hope we see another New Gen set soon after this upcoming set. You could be right on the females front; but a referee may not require a new mould - this custom was pretty straight forward, just requiring removing jacket & tie and sculpting a bow tie:
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Post by glassoni0n on Jun 26, 2023 9:27:48 GMT -5
I mean I really don't want Ali in the line, but I would buy the set as a completist so it wouldn't do me a lot of good as a "protest vote" lol. I'm pretty lenient on who they include in the retro world, I like the idea of a big, wide-ranging figfed. Essentially all I ask is that they stick to WWE/WCW/ECW characters. We don't get nearly enough of these to start including Muhammad Ali. I love Ali as a boxer, I proudly display his Funko next to guys like Babe Ruth and Michael Jordan on my "GOATs" shelf, but he's not a wrestler. I really don't have any desire to see him get inserted into every line like Mr. T has been. What's next ring announcer Billy Martin?? Time-keeper Liberace??
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Post by gentlemanjohnny on Jun 26, 2023 14:13:36 GMT -5
I was expecting the next set to be a lose WM1-themed set anyway to complement the first bundle, and now Ali is on the roster then you could be very much onto something. Getting a referee into the line also ticks another missing Hasbro box. They'd need to invest in another new body though, which they might not do since they are already doing that with Wendi? My other thought was that they might want to include another female so they don't go all Southpaw Regional Wrestling with Wendi, but I think it's likelier they'll reuse that figure with Sherri or Alundra Blayze in the next bundle instead. Had Moolah been an option then maybe they'd have gone with her as a natural match-up with Wendi, but I don't think there's really anyone else from her era? I naturally want all the bundles to be a great success, but I agree though that I hope we see another New Gen set soon after this upcoming set. You could be right on the females front; but a referee may not require a new mould - this custom was pretty straight forward, just requiring removing jacket & tie and sculpting a bow tie: I love Nikolai, but that spot 100% should have gone to Danny Davis. It makes sense as Davis was actually a part of that group. I hope they make him eventually.
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Post by hulkster on Jun 26, 2023 18:52:58 GMT -5
When is SDCC? Are we likely to get the Hogan, Ritcher wave finished and the next wave teased? It will definitely be Mania 1 theme, which is cool but I'd love a DX similar to the NWO pack or pick out events as special box sets, Summerslam with Zues,more Mania sets, or a champions pack with belts, or managers set.
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Post by @WWERetroStars on Jun 26, 2023 19:37:10 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is: - Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain Lou Pretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc… IMO: This would be the best set of 4 they’ve released (if the 4th was Lou). Think people are sleeping on how good that Hulk and Richter will be. Hulk, in the right gear, could be the best version of him in the Retro/Hasbro form. Throw them on a black card with the WrestleMania logo. Would be a major home run.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 26, 2023 20:52:32 GMT -5
So, with it looking like the SDCC exclusive figure may be Muhammad Ali Wrestlemania 1 referee - is it possible the next retro wave is: - Hogan - Richter - Ali referee - Mr Wonderful or Captain Lou Pretty solid mania 1 theme, and they did similar with Mr T iirc… IMO: This would be the best set of 4 they’ve released (if the 4th was Lou). Think people are sleeping on how good that Hulk and Richter will be. Hulk, in the right gear, could be the best version of him in the Retro/Hasbro form. Throw them on a black card with the WrestleMania logo. Would be a major home run. If they are going with the WM1 theme, and it seems like they are, then they've already done Piper, Orton, Volkoff, and Mr T, and if you count the earlier retros then we also have Iron Sheik and Junkyard Dog. It would make sense if they did maybe Andre and Studd, but I'm guessing it will be Orndorff and someone else. Vince McMahon would be cool, so would Lou Albano.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jun 26, 2023 21:44:43 GMT -5
When is SDCC? Are we likely to get the Hogan, Ritcher wave finished and the next wave teased? It will definitely be Mania 1 theme, which is cool but I'd love a DX similar to the NWO pack or pick out events as special box sets, Summerslam with Zues,more Mania sets, or a champions pack with belts, or managers set. I think a DX set would be far more likely as RSC exclusives (like the NWO 2-pks): you could mix and match between Shawn, Triple H, Chyna, Rude, X-pac, and the Outlaws... Personally, I'd go with Triple H & Chyna, and Shawn & Rude.
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