jason1980s
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Post by jason1980s on May 22, 2019 7:21:07 GMT -5
I think Superstar Billy Graham should leave the posts alone. He is just making himself look bad and at this point, in his late 70s, it's not like WWE will call him to be on their creative team. BUT I will say as someone who grew up in the larger than life character era and saw a little bit of Kofi early in his run, I don't see him as champion either. It's not just him, I don't see a lot of upper card/title guys at champion material these days.
I will say though, when I see Kofi's autograph, I don't see him as champion. Rag on Superstar all we want, he gives the paying fan (when he did signings) their money's worth with an autograph that was actually legible. Lots of champions do, Bob Backlund, Steve Austin, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat among some of the really nice ones. Even Hulk Hogan's is usually very legible. I know few are judging a wrestler's championship reigns by autographs but still, you want to be a champion act like one and take pride in the autograph you give the fans who believe in you.
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Post by bad guy™ on May 22, 2019 15:05:30 GMT -5
It's the story behind how he got there. Not just the gauntlet matches, but the history of his career to this point, being the guy who always fell short.
People felt the same way about Miz when he won the title. Well, a lot of them. But now they're clamoring for more. It's a process.
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Post by TheLastDude on May 22, 2019 15:31:28 GMT -5
I think Superstar Billy Graham should leave the posts alone. He is just making himself look bad and at this point, in his late 70s, it's not like WWE will call him to be on their creative team. BUT I will say as someone who grew up in the larger than life character era and saw a little bit of Kofi early in his run, I don't see him as champion either. It's not just him, I don't see a lot of upper card/title guys at champion material these days. I will say though, when I see Kofi's autograph, I don't see him as champion. Rag on Superstar all we want, he gives the paying fan (when he did signings) their money's worth with an autograph that was actually legible. Lots of champions do, Bob Backlund, Steve Austin, Bret Hart, Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat among some of the really nice ones. Even Hulk Hogan's is usually very legible. I know few are judging a wrestler's championship reigns by autographs but still, you want to be a champion act like one and take pride in the autograph you give the fans who believe in you. Eh, Kofi still gives a little more ink than DA, RR, SRLLI/SR, CJ, RORT, BKL, SN, MH, KO/KOS, CLL, etc...
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Papi Joker
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Post by Papi Joker on May 22, 2019 18:04:10 GMT -5
because his win was pretty much lobbied by the IWC? because the backstage suits did not invest months on end to make his run mean anything? because Xavier Woods hangs around him (Big E would be too) like a bad smell as if all 3 are the champ? (cause Kofi cannot talk) because his match was not the most significant hence he did not main even Wrestle Mania?
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Post by aggressiveperfector on May 23, 2019 19:39:36 GMT -5
Because it was forced and Kofi doesn't deserve it. They finally went with the hot hand and who the fans were clamoring for. So THERE'S forced for you...and Kofi not deserving? What do you call those last 11 years where he did everything asked of him and ate crapwith a smile? He was the epitome of "Deserved it" and he's feuding with another person who "Deserves it"
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Post by rowdy1971 on May 24, 2019 13:30:20 GMT -5
Because it was forced and Kofi doesn't deserve it. They finally went with the hot hand and who the fans were clamoring for. So THERE'S forced for you...and Kofi not deserving? What do you call those last 11 years where he did everything asked of him and ate crap with a smile? He was the epitome of "Deserved it" and he's feuding with another person who "Deserves it" No fan was "clamoring" for it until he was forced into the main event with what? Two weeks of build? Who cares that he was there for 11 years? Just because someone is good at working the fries and McDonalds for 11 years doesn't mean they should become the general manager. Kofi is the epitome of mid-carder. And as long as Kofi acts the idiot doing this whole New Day stuff, nobody will take him seriously being the world champion. Ate crap with a smile? What crap was he given? How many IC title runs? US title runs? He was a part of the team that broke the record for the tag titles. Always was the highlight of the Rumble, etc. That's not crap. That's a good meal for the mid-carder that Kofi is and always should be. Big E should have been given the run. Not Kofi. Big E is more of a believable champion.
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Post by Gorilla on May 24, 2019 20:10:47 GMT -5
I hope they have Owens squash him
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Post by marino13 on May 25, 2019 17:48:01 GMT -5
I think that's an issue that plagues every new World champion. IMO I can't think of very many talents who's first run as champ felt right from the get go. There's so many unknown variables at this point. How long will Kofi hold it? How many title defenses will he have? How long will he keep Vince's and the fan's interest?
It also will depend on where they go after they lose the title. Will Kofi get another run? Will the new car smell wear off and someone new take his place? Will he stay at the top of the company? Is he one and done? There's no way of knowing now.
It takes time. The difference is that nowadays, very few will allow things to play out before they prejudge. So far for me personally, it's new and it's been fun. Two things WWE needs at the moment.
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Post by WMWanimations on May 25, 2019 18:29:09 GMT -5
Because hes actually not that good. He shined because Bryan made him look incredible. Bryan is like the modern day Bret Hart. makes his opponents look deceivingly believable.
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Post by PJ on May 26, 2019 10:41:47 GMT -5
First let me start of by saying I like Kofi. I find him entertaining in the ring and I’ve never seen him phone any thing in over his 11 years he always gives 110%. But now that I have said that I don’t think of Kofi as a main event singles star. Some guys just don’t have it for that role. And while I do find him entertaining when I think of him all I see is a mid-carder solo worker as well as a tag team specialist who has a annual Royal Rumble gimmick.
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Post by The King Of Crisps on May 26, 2019 15:02:25 GMT -5
They rushed the KO turn and that's all he has had so far. There isnt another heel wrestler to go after the belt that would believable.
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Post by dante123 on May 26, 2019 16:40:36 GMT -5
I think that's an issue that plagues every new World champion. IMO I can't think of very many talents who's first run as champ felt right from the get go. There's so many unknown variables at this point. How long will Kofi hold it? How many title defenses will he have? How long will he keep Vince's and the fan's interest? It also will depend on where they go after they lose the title. Will Kofi get another run? Will the new car smell wear off and someone new take his place? Will he stay at the top of the company? Is he one and done? There's no way of knowing now. It takes time. The difference is that nowadays, very few will allow things to play out before they prejudge. So far for me personally, it's new and it's been fun. Two things WWE needs at the moment. HHH was the same way until his feud with Mick made him look like a star.
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Post by marino13 on May 26, 2019 16:49:20 GMT -5
I think that's an issue that plagues every new World champion. IMO I can't think of very many talents who's first run as champ felt right from the get go. There's so many unknown variables at this point. How long will Kofi hold it? How many title defenses will he have? How long will he keep Vince's and the fan's interest? It also will depend on where they go after they lose the title. Will Kofi get another run? Will the new car smell wear off and someone new take his place? Will he stay at the top of the company? Is he one and done? There's no way of knowing now. It takes time. The difference is that nowadays, very few will allow things to play out before they prejudge. So far for me personally, it's new and it's been fun. Two things WWE needs at the moment. HHH was the same way until his feud with Mick made him look like a star. Absolutely.
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on May 28, 2019 14:38:28 GMT -5
HHH was the same way until his feud with Mick made him look like a star. Absolutely. I have to disagree, Trips' transformation was insane and done so quick, but within one Summer he went from a midcarder to a legit threat in the Main Event scene. Personally I dont think Kofi has the look for being Champion; inevitably someone will bring up the "small guy" argument, compare him to Bret, Michaels, Bryan and alike. Thing is, they weren't small guys, they were small in comparison to previous Champions but they were still large in stature and looked like a threat. Kofi, to me atleast, just doesn't. He's far too small and just doesn't LOOK like a champion, and as shitty as it is, the looks and aesthetic count.
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Post by BØRNS on May 29, 2019 14:32:18 GMT -5
I have to disagree, Trips' transformation was insane and done so quick, but within one Summer he went from a midcarder to a legit threat in the Main Event scene. Personally I dont think Kofi has the look for being Champion; inevitably someone will bring up the "small guy" argument, compare him to Bret, Michaels, Bryan and alike. Thing is, they weren't small guys, they were small in comparison to previous Champions but they were still large in stature and looked like a threat. Kofi, to me atleast, just doesn't. He's far too small and just doesn't LOOK like a champion, and as crapty as it is, the looks and aesthetic count. Agree with you! Nothing against him, but he is scrawny, twig thin, has no pecs, and seeing him on the street you would never guess he was a wrestler, let alone WWE Champion. His gimmick does not help the case. He's easily the most immature WWE champion in history and that only hurts him.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on May 29, 2019 15:05:39 GMT -5
He's easily the most immature WWE champion in history That’s definitely not true. CM Punk was WWE Champion.
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Post by BØRNS on May 30, 2019 2:42:28 GMT -5
He's easily the most immature WWE champion in history That’s definitely not true. CM Punk was WWE Champion.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on May 30, 2019 3:54:46 GMT -5
That’s definitely not true. CM Punk was WWE Champion. Perhaps you’re a very new fan, but Punk held the title for most of 2011-2013. He’s even got it in that gif lol.
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Post by alanpartridge on May 30, 2019 5:52:33 GMT -5
Him and Ziggler have really good in ring chemistry. Remember their 2010/11 matches. Their match at Super Showdown should be good.
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Post by BØRNS on May 30, 2019 16:30:46 GMT -5
Perhaps you’re a very new fan, but Punk held the title for most of 2011-2013. He’s even got it in that gif lol. Punk was not an immature champion, he had balls no other wrestler had. I've been a fan my whole life, do you see how old my account is?
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