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Vince reminded me of how Donald Trump is today when dodging that reporter’s good question.

I don’t care if Owen never gets inducted to that meaningless hall of fame and Martha herself said how stupid it was recently.

Yup, and both their kids want nothing to do with the WWE or the wrestling business as well. I cant blame them.

Don't blame Martha or her children for their thoughts on WWE and wrestling as a whole.

Owen should've never been up there to begin with.

That was an extremely, extremely tough episode to get through, man. .

I think the Owen episode should have been two hours. If the premiere is that long why not the finale?

That was a real one. Lots to process. I was 10 years old when it happened. I didn't order the PPV's ($$) but I remember being on a wrestling site at the time reading live updates hearing that Owen fell. I couldn't believe they went on with the show. I was only 10, and just learning what a 'work' was, so a part of me was really holding out that it was all an elaborate stunt. I mean, this was only a couple of months after they did the Bossman hanging thing, so it really didn't seem out of the realm of possibilities to a 10 year old.

Hearing his kids talk was tough. For context, my dad passed when I was very young (5 months). He died in a railway accident. The part of me that had to eventually come to terms with my own dad's passing (Obviously a different scenario since I was so young) wonders if the extra despise for the wrestling industry isn't still showing that they haven't really healed. I mean, to some extent, you never totally heal, but it still feels fresh when I hear them talk. I totally get why they wouldn't want anything to do with the wrestling industry, I could never work in a railyard. However, the way they speak about the industry as a whole, instead of just the parts Owen was involved in, makes me feel like they are still having trouble coping with it, and that's heartbreaking. By the same token, the things that happened to Owen (the way he was treated after Bret left, the unsafe stunt, the travel, the lifestyle, etc, etc) are so representative of everything that's historically been wrong with wrestling, that I totally get how they could despise the industry as a whole, and I can't really blame them. He was never around as much as he would have wanted because of wrestling, and in the end it took his life. Very complex situation for them to process, can't have been easy filming.

Regarding the hall of fame, I think the argument to him being in the hall of fame is the exact reason Martha & co. wouldn't want it. Wrestling took absolutely everything from them, and Owen didn't want wrestling to be his legacy, it was all about his family. Putting him in the hall of fame, no matter how much he meant to me or any other fan, takes away from what he would have wanted his legacy to be. His foundation is exactly what his legacy should be. If we really value him that much as a wrestler, we can respect his vision for his own life, and support his foundation instead. I trust his wife and kids that it would mean far more to him than any hall of fame ever would have anyways.

Edit: I was lucky enough to meet Owen. I had an aunt that lived in Vancouver and flew my mom and I out every year to visit. Met Owen along with Mick and Ahmad Johnson (lol) before a live show. (At the old Virgin Records on Robson for any canucks).  I had met Bret twice before when he came to Saskatoon where I live, as well as a few others, but I remember Owen being the nicest wrestler I had ever met. I still have the VHS case he signed (it was the UK One Night Only show).  

It's nice to see that Owen Hart's children have grown up to be seemingly well adjusted adults, that said, the fact that Vince McMahon has lived to be 74 basically disproves the existence of karma. The number of people he has directly or indirectly sent to their early graves is mind boggling. I still can't believe that the PPV wasn't stopped with Owen's blood still there and the broken boards in the ring. That's grotesque. KC police is absolutely worthless for not stepping in and sealing off what was an active crime scene.

Yeah, that was the worst of the we want owen hart figure threads. Its like they speak for his kids without knowing what they had to go through.

Bill Cosby is in his 80s and in jail, so there's always hope Vince's final days are numbered by facing the consequences of his actions not just in Owen's death but in the Snuka coverup and many of his other horrible actions. Right now he still has a stranglehold on wrestling and wrestlers but at some point the house of cards will fall. If the "Me Too" movement has shown no one is untouchable not even "America's Dad" and Vince certainly isn't anywhere near Cosby popularity or fame. If anything, Vince is the "Devil's Dad" and at some point he will pay.